Archetype meta-data - moving foward

2013-05-06 Thread David Moner
I have added a license attribute. An archetype can need both a copyright
and the applicable license.

David


2013/5/3 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com

  On 03/05/2013 11:28, Diego Bosc? wrote:

 By the way, we should use the momentum to also revamp the available
 metadata. A few ideas:

 - Move 'copyright' from language specific information to general
 metadata (It's not being really translated at the moment).
 - Move 'references' from other_details to general metadata (It's
 important enough IMHO).
 - Information about date of validation, validity time and who validated it.
 - RM version this archetype was based on.
 - etc.



 Personally I would agree with all of the above. I have already added the
 rm_release to the ARCHETYPE class now in the AOM (not yet pushed up), but
 for the others, I suggest we try to create a wider discussion to do this
 exercise with a small amount of discipline, but still be in a
 crowd-sourcing mode (is that possible ;-)

 To that end, I added a child page to the Knowledge Artefact
 Identification 
 pagehttp://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/spec/Development+and+Governance+of+Knowledge+Artefacts,
 herehttp://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/spec/Knowledge+Artefact+Meta-data,
 dedicated to meta-data. I added some tables where we can potentially review
 the current model and propose changes. If people think this isn't
 sufficiently detailed, feel free to rework it in another way.

 - thomas


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http://www.ibime.upv.es

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Camino de Vera, s/n, Edificio G-8, Acceso B, 3? planta
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Archetype meta-data - moving foward

2013-05-06 Thread Diego Boscá
In fact, 'license' could be translated, but translating 'copyright'
makes less sense

2013/5/6 David Moner damoca at gmail.com:
 I have added a license attribute. An archetype can need both a copyright
 and the applicable license.

 David


 2013/5/3 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com

 On 03/05/2013 11:28, Diego Bosc? wrote:

 By the way, we should use the momentum to also revamp the available
 metadata. A few ideas:

 - Move 'copyright' from language specific information to general
 metadata (It's not being really translated at the moment).
 - Move 'references' from other_details to general metadata (It's
 important enough IMHO).
 - Information about date of validation, validity time and who validated
 it.
 - RM version this archetype was based on.
 - etc.


 Personally I would agree with all of the above. I have already added the
 rm_release to the ARCHETYPE class now in the AOM (not yet pushed up), but
 for the others, I suggest we try to create a wider discussion to do this
 exercise with a small amount of discipline, but still be in a crowd-sourcing
 mode (is that possible ;-)

 To that end, I added a child page to the Knowledge Artefact Identification
 page, here, dedicated to meta-data. I added some tables where we can
 potentially review the current model and propose changes. If people think
 this isn't sufficiently detailed, feel free to rework it in another way.

 - thomas


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 Instituto ITACA
 http://www.ibime.upv.es

 Universidad Polit?cnica de Valencia (UPV)
 Camino de Vera, s/n, Edificio G-8, Acceso B, 3? planta
 Valencia ? 46022 (Espa?a)

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Archetype meta-data - moving foward

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Beale
On 06/05/2013 10:47, Diego Bosc? wrote:
 In fact, 'license' could be translated, but translating 'copyright'
 makes less sense


Clearly we are not in the business of creating translations of things 
like the CC licenses ourselves, which is the license of archetypes (at 
least openEHR ones). We would need to rely on those ones that are 
created by creativecommons.org community. This CC page 
http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Translate talks about translating 
licences.

It's not obvious to me on a brief look, but I would expect that for any 
given canonical license URL like 
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ to have equivalents in 
other languages like http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/es 
for Spanish etc.

I also suspect that for a CC (and other) license in English language, 
and with 'international' as the jurisdiction, that English is actually 
the official language of the license, for all users, on the assumption 
that any court that might process a case based on one of these licenses 
would be an international court and have English as its working language 
(like the Hague ICC does). The only use of translations - I think - is 
to just enable non-EN maternal language users to more easily understand 
the license.

So we either treat the license field as a non-translated field and just 
include canonical (EN) URL, and assume the user will go and find the 
translation if they need one - I think this will be easier. If we treat 
it as a translatable field, then we probably have to figure out a 
correct URL for each translation, which might just be the 'en' one for 
languages in which the CC license is not yet available. This seems an 
annoyance with no real gain.

- thomas

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2013-05-06 Thread William Goossen
Yes a copyright, a license, and sometimes terms of use.

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I have added a license attribute. An archetype can need both a copyright
and the applicable license.

David


2013/5/3 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com

  On 03/05/2013 11:28, Diego Bosc? wrote:

 By the way, we should use the momentum to also revamp the available
 metadata. A few ideas:

 - Move 'copyright' from language specific information to general
 metadata (It's not being really translated at the moment).
 - Move 'references' from other_details to general metadata (It's
 important enough IMHO).
 - Information about date of validation, validity time and who validated it.
 - RM version this archetype was based on.
 - etc.



 Personally I would agree with all of the above. I have already added the
 rm_release to the ARCHETYPE class now in the AOM (not yet pushed up), but
 for the others, I suggest we try to create a wider discussion to do this
 exercise with a small amount of discipline, but still be in a
 crowd-sourcing mode (is that possible ;-)

 To that end, I added a child page to the Knowledge Artefact
 Identification 
 pagehttp://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/spec/Development+and+Governance+of+Knowledge+Artefacts,
 herehttp://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/spec/Knowledge+Artefact+Meta-data,
 dedicated to meta-data. I added some tables where we can potentially review
 the current model and propose changes. If people think this isn't
 sufficiently detailed, feel free to rework it in another way.

 - thomas


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Grupo de Inform?tica Biom?dica - IBIME
Instituto ITACA
http://www.ibime.upv.es

Universidad Polit?cnica de Valencia (UPV)
Camino de Vera, s/n, Edificio G-8, Acceso B, 3? planta
Valencia ? 46022 (Espa?a)
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In fact, 'license' could be translated, but translating 'copyright'
makes less sense

2013/5/6 David Moner damoca at gmail.com:
 I have added a license attribute. An archetype can need both a copyright
 and the applicable license.

 David


 2013/5/3 Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com

 On 03/05/2013 11:28, Diego Bosc? wrote:

 By the way, we should use the momentum to also revamp the available
 metadata. A few ideas:

 - Move 'copyright' from language specific information to general
 metadata (It's not being really translated at the moment).
 - Move 'references' from other_details to general metadata (It's
 important enough IMHO).
 - Information about date of validation, validity time and who validated
 it.
 - RM version this archetype was based on.
 - etc.


 Personally I would agree with all of the above. I have already added the
 rm_release to the ARCHETYPE class now in the AOM (not yet pushed up), but
 for the others, I suggest we