The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-13 Thread Peter Gummer
Bert Verhees wrote: And of course, good non-GUI-building archetype-editors which are still not there, the complains I had about the both mainstream archetype-editors were admitted, but the improvement did not yet come. Hi Bert, I remember that you described some inconsistencies on one of

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-08 Thread Thomas Beale
I am always somewhat surprised as well. Thanks by the way for your clarifying notes, that is exactly how I would summarise the discussions. - thomas On 07/04/2013 22:08, Randolph Neall wrote: Hi Thomas, I'm surprised that at this advanced stage of openEHR's maturity you'd still have to

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-08 Thread Randolph Neall
There is always a meta-architecture. It's just a question of whether system builders are conscious of it. Thomas, perhaps you don't intend humor, but gems like this are what make reading your posts both enlightening and entertaining, even for someone at my distance. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 8:06

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
[This is Tim again, initially bounced] And that is the issue, and what is at the root of this dispute. Tim does not see the point of specialization or redefinition, which, in my opinion, is why he can hold forth so strongly for XML. Randy Neall You are mostly correct. It isn't that I

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 06/04/2013 23:50, Thomas Beale wrote: [This is Tim again, initially bounced] And that is the issue, and what is at the root of this dispute. Tim does not see the point of specialization or redefinition, which, in my opinion, is why he can hold forth so strongly for XML. Randy Neall You

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 06/04/2013 23:50, Thomas Beale wrote: [This is Tim again, initially bounced] And that is the issue, and what is at the root of this dispute. Tim does not see the point of specialization or redefinition, which, in my opinion, is why he can hold forth so strongly for XML. Randy Neall You

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 07/04/2013 00:35, Bert Verhees wrote: That's expedient, but it's also a guarantee of non-interoperability. As far as I can see, also from my experience, nor OpenEHR, nor MLHIM will be the only datamodel system on the world. Cooperation with other systems will always need a message-format.

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-07 Thread Thomas Beale
On 07/04/2013 12:11, Grahame Grieve wrote: Hi Tom You ask: Is there a better meta-architecture available? When actually the question at hand appears to be: is it even worth having one? I don't think that this is a question with a technical answer. It's a question of what you are

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-07 Thread Bert Verhees
On 04/07/2013 10:40 AM, Thomas Beale wrote: Is there a better meta-architecture available? I think is a very good architecture, that is why I am using it, but I(we) keep having to deal with people who think otherwise. I am not smart enough to point out why HL7v3 messaging is good or bad, or

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-06 Thread Thomas Beale
On 05/04/2013 13:03, Thomas Beale wrote: [original post by Tim bounced; reposting manually for him] On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote: if you mean the competing inheritance models - I have yet to meet any XML specialist who thinks

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-06 Thread Randolph Neall
Hi Tim There is no need for specialisation or redefinition in MLHIM. Concept Constraint Definitions (CCDS) are immutable once published. In conjunction with their included Reference Model version they endure in order to remain as the model for that instance data. Unlike you, I believe that the

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-05 Thread Timothy W. Cook
On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Thomas Beale thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote: [original post by Tim bounced; reposting manually for him] Thanks Tom. I probably posted with the incorrect email address again. Arrrgh, organizing the simple things is difficult. --Tim

The Truth About XML was: openEHR Subversion = Github move progress [on behalf of Tim Cook]

2013-04-05 Thread Randolph Neall
Cook: There is no need for specialisation or redefinition in MLHIM. Concept Constraint Definitions (CCDS) are immutable once published. In conjunction with their included Reference Model version they endure in order to remain as the model for that instance data. Unlike you, I believe that the