On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 01:15:44AM -0700, Vernon Adams wrote:
> Pablo clearly 'gets it' :)
>
> I assume that the response from people who "dont get it" would be that
> you should have both; 'freedom' and 'quality', and i wouldn't argue
> with that, it's a good target. But...
We should. I find the
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 03:52:23PM +0200, Eric Schrijver wrote:
> How do other Open Source font projects deal with their version
> numbers? Any best practices?
I simply start with 0.001 and keep incrementing as I go, sometimes I
make jumps when I feel so (say, a big milestone reached), e.g. I once
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 04:30:47PM +0200, Eric Schrijver wrote:
> On 23-09-13 16:16, Dave Crossland wrote:
> >On 23 September 2013 15:52, Eric Schrijver wrote:
> >>How do other Open Source font projects deal with their version numbers? Any
> >>best practices?
> >semver.org
>
> I’m aware of semver
On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 11:24:34PM +0200, Eric Schrijver wrote:
> Majorversion Minorversion (ints) is rather restrictive (I like to
> have Major Minor Patch version) And I remember some story about
> windows not handeling Majorversion < 1 correctly?
>
> A proper free font takes it time before reac
On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 05:58:07PM -0500, Nathan Willis wrote:
> Does anyone else who uses revision control of some sort have a simple way
> to append commit messages to FONTLOG? I'm not saying you'd necessarily
> want to with every message, but it would probably be easier to cut the
> unimportant
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 07:50:00PM +0100, Victor Gaultney wrote:
> then you'll have to talk to Adobe about a new version os PDF.
PDF does, in fact, allow this. You can now even embed full OpenType fonts
since PDF 1.6.
Regards,
Khaled
On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 08:35:00AM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote:
> On 5 June 2013 08:26, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> >> Web fonts are never embedding, they are always separate resources that are
> >> linked to documents.
> >
> > And so are fonts embedded in PDF f
d, and what could be ways to enable embedding as a means of
> > distribution whilst also protecting the freedom of the font?
> >
> > -vern
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4 Jun 2013, at 08:05, Dave Crossland wrote:
> >
> > > Extracting the fonts is jus
On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 03:33:55PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote:
> On 3 June 2013 15:27, Barry Schwartz wrote:
> > My opinion on webfonts is that they are being embedded in a document
> > and so everything is A-OK. Nothing more is required.
>
> I'm curious why you think this, given the reasons Vic
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 05:24:57PM -0500, Nathan Willis wrote:
> On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
>
> > The ofl has no upgrade model, the authors have no resources to make an
> > update, and believe the license provides for this situation.
> >
>
> Just curious: what would b
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 05:17:18PM +0200, Dave Crossland wrote:
> On 23 May 2013 17:12, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> > The other half is the artistic integrity,
> > which I, obviously, find it all nonsense
>
> Since many libre software projects use trademarks to maintain the
>
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 09:26:36AM -0700, Vernon Adams wrote:
> I challenge Khaleds slightly 'straw man' comment :)
>
> Fonts are functional utilities that include 'art work'. The fact that
> the 'art work' of fonts may not be part of your interest in them, does
> not separate function and art in
N can restricts a font's freedom? I'm interested to
> hear thoughts on that, as i'm still grappling with all this.
>
> -v
>
>
> On 23 May 2013, at 07:40, Khaled Hosny wrote:
>
> > Why do you think the font name is so important that to keep using it
> &g
Why do you think the font name is so important that to keep using it
those evil corporations will go out of their ways and sign deals with
you? (not to mention that it is the copyleft part of OFL that ensures
preservation of font freedom, not the RFN part).
Regards,
Khaled
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 02:09:13PM -0700, Vernon Adams wrote:
>
> On 22 May 2013, at 13:45, Dave Crossland wrote:
>
> > I want to see libre fonts as widely used as possible while remaining libre.
>
> Agreed. However, it's the 'remaining libre' aspect that is my concern.
> You know, we have the
On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 12:31:57AM +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:41:03PM -0700, Vernon Adams wrote:
> > Still not seeing why no RFN needs to be the default position. I'm very
> > open to persuasive argument tho.
>
> Because almost all free sof
On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 01:41:03PM -0700, Vernon Adams wrote:
> Still not seeing why no RFN needs to be the default position. I'm very
> open to persuasive argument tho.
Because almost all free software licenses do not have such a provision
(I can only think of TeX license, which is pre historical
Don't be so sure:
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/opentype/afdko/topic_font_wt_win.html
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 10:14:54AM +0100, vern adams wrote:
> It's a bad OS/2 usWeightClass value (nothing to do with CSS). So, the '250' is
> getting rounded up to '300' and therefore clashing with the Light versi
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 10:32:19AM +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> So I'd say it is a font bug (might be a FontConfig limitation as well, I
> have some vague recollection about some discussion somewhere on whether
> OS/2 weight must be multiples of 100 or not).
http://lists.w3.org/A
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 12:04:47PM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 11:07:50AM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> >> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
> >> >
On Fri, Aug 03, 2012 at 11:07:50AM +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Dave Crossland wrote:
> > Haha damn you that would have been my fault if it was messed up! XD
>
> BTW, it's the first time I noticed this: is Pango really uncapable of
> seeing Extra Light wei
Hi all,
I tried to add my first OFLB font[1] today, and I have some
questions/remarks.
I provide special web version of my fonts that is a bit optimised to
have smaller file size than the regular version (my omitting stuff not
needed on the web like glyph names etc.), following the open font
sour
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:07:52PM -0700, Dave Crossland wrote:
> >> 2. Ellen is a web user in Spain who wants to translate 100% of the
> >> Open Font Library into Spanish. She visits the site and sees a clear
&g
On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:07:52PM -0700, Dave Crossland wrote:
> 2. Ellen is a web user in Spain who wants to translate 100% of the
> Open Font Library into Spanish. She visits the site and sees a clear
> invitation to start contribution translations. She is taken to a
> guidebook page that explai
On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 11:57:22PM -0400, Laval Chabon wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm on OSX Lion FontForge, X11,
>
> This is the gray header I told you.
It means the glyph have a non-empty background layer.
> ---
On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 03:40:59PM -0400, Laval Chabon wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I'm in OS Lion with X11 and I have an issue: There is another glyph in the
> font with this unicode code point
>
> What should I choose to do to fix this out?
If you go to Encoding → Reencode → Glyph Order, FontForge wil
:
> I think that sometimes I uploaded files uncompatible.
> OpenFontLibrary already refused me. Dafont too.
>
> Frandey Lavie Hypère Chabom⊥
> chabon.laval...@gmail.com
>
>
> Le 2012-03-19 à 15:42, Khaled Hosny a écrit :
>
> > Refused by whom/what?
> >
>
>
>
> Le 2012-03-19 à 13:02, Khaled Hosny a écrit :
>
> > Just ignore them, non of this is a critical issue and mostly irrelivant
> > these days.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Khaled
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:26:18AM -0400, Laval Chabon wr
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Le 2012-03-18 à 15:30, Khaled Hosny a écrit :
>
> > Element -> Overlap -> Remove Overlap might help in some cases, in others
> > you have to fix it manually, depends on how the intersection is.
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 a
feature may fix this, please?
>
> Frandey Lavie Hypère Chabom⊥
> chabon.laval...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Le 2012-03-18 à 10:14, Khaled Hosny a écrit :
>
> > On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 04:13:41AM -0400, Laval Chabon wrote:
> >> Hello,
On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 04:13:41AM -0400, Laval Chabon wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I get problems while validating in FontForge (MacOS X Lion, X11)
>
> I got a huge number of glyphs with non-integral coordinates.
> Can I find a fair way to fix all of these automatically? (Auto-fix)
Element -> Round -> T
I use the script posted here:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/freetype-devel/2011-06/msg00011.html
It'll get git versions of ttfautohint and freetype and build statically
linked binary, so no messing with system-wide libraries.
HTH
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 05:14:06PM -0500, Peter Baker wrote:
>
, which are going to be supported
> by Firefox. Does anyone know how this is for WOFF?
Both do support OpenType features (generally speaking OpenType is a
superset of TrueType format), WOFF is just a thin wrapper around it.
Regards,
Khaled
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Arab
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 01:42:05PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>
>
> Le Lun 21 mars 2011 13:37, Khaled Hosny a écrit :
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 04:05:32AM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote:
> >> On 21 March 2011 02:13, Christopher Adams wrote:
> >>
ession ratio is ~50% in
my tests and this can be significant for many fonts.
Regards,
Khaled
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Arab
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 03:01:14PM +0100, Felix E. Klee wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> > It should be easy to create your own font, fire up FontForge,
>
> Have never used, but if it's simple to install and use, and if I find
> the time,
if you want
to reduce the size of the resulting font, use Ctrl+G instead), select or
other characters, Ctrl+V. Edit the font names (Ctrl+Shift+F), generate
it (Ctrl+Shift+G) and you are done.
Regards,
Khaled
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Free font developer
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:29:20AM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le 13/07/2010 21:44, Khaled Hosny a écrit :
>
> > I too don't like releasing half done fonts, though I usually have a
> > public repo with SFD files for brave souls, but I'm not canonical and
> >
Beta
> Subfamily Name: Regular
> Full Name: Ubuntu Beta
> PostScript Name: UbuntuBeta
> Unique Identifier: Ubuntu Beta: 2010
> Copyright: Copyright 2010 Canonical Ltd. All rights reserved.
> Description: Copyright 2010 Canonical Ltd. All rights reserved.
Don't know why both feel like PDF extracts to me.
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Free font developer
tioned the repository, I meant a version control repository
(usually git), Debian packaging is beyond mere mortals like me.
I'm strongly in favour of open development model, but I can understand
when font designers are over-protective.
Regards,
Khaled
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Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team
Free font developer
font name follow a
> unique pattern.
>
> Which is to say:
>
> What is so hard about releasing FontName20100713?
People tend to pass fonts around and never update them again, so you end
up with many people using broken fonts. Knuth had to shout like this
http://www-cs-faculty.sta
Ubuntu is failing some sort of ethos regarding
> fonts should grow up.
I too don't like releasing half done fonts, though I usually have a
public repo with SFD files for brave souls, but I'm not canonical and
people are unlikely to build and distribute my broken fonts.
Regards,
Khale
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 01:21:00PM -0400, Jonadab the Unsightly One wrote:
> Khaled Hosny writes:
>
> > Just a question, don't CSS have a font fallback mechanism so that
> > one can set, say, Droid Sans followed by Droid Sans Cyrillic or
> > Droid Sans CJK if he
om the start would improve rasterisation/hinting.
We are still drawing on paper, so it is yet to seen how beneficial is
this.
Regards,
Khaled
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Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team
Free font developer
uses
> PostScript or TrueType outlines in the files.
You can even have a layer dedicated to PostScript outlines and another
one for TrueType outlines, so you can work on both concurrently. At font
generation time you choose which goes to output.
Regards,
Khaled
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Free font developer
I can
find, but I can't really tell how close to Garamond is it. URW Garamond
No 8 is under AFPL, which is free for non-commercial use only.
Regards,
Khaled
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Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team
Free font developer
se I need ĉ ĝ ĥ ĵ ŝ and ŭ for
> Esperanto. I'm not a vast majority of anything, however. :)
Just a question, don't CSS have a font fallback mechanism so that one
can set, say, Droid Sans followed by Droid Sans Cyrillic or Droid Sans
CJK if he wants Cyrillic or CJK support?
--
Kha
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 05:12:30PM +0200, Ben Laenen wrote:
> Khaled Hosny wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 09:32:48AM +0200, Ben Laenen wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 3:53 AM, Peter Baker wrote:
> > > > Couple of quick points. First, the FontForge format
d it's absolutely not
> suited for collaboration.
Compared to UFO, it is much better, especially if you can't use
FF for some reason. Adobe feature files can be considered too.
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Free font developer
_______
> fonts mailing list
> fo...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fonts
> http://fonts.fedoraproject.org/
>
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Free font developer
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:09:54AM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>
>
> Le Jeu 11 mars 2010 06:23, Khaled Hosny a écrit :
>
> > In contrast, the archaic, +25 years old TeX is able to cope with modern
> > technology, and have people who do actually care about typography. L
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 08:12:31AM +0100, Christoph Schäfer wrote:
> Hi Khaled,
>
> Am Donnerstag, 11. März 2010 06:23:51 schrieb Khaled Hosny:
> > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:38:43PM +0100, Christoph Schäfer wrote:
> > > Am Mittwoch, 10. März 2010 22:56:54 schrieb Khal
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:38:43PM +0100, Christoph Schäfer wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 10. März 2010 22:56:54 schrieb Khaled Hosny:
> > On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:51:51PM -0600, Barry Schwartz wrote:
> > > Khaled Hosny skribis:
> > > > But how OFLB is going to f
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 05:00:57PM -0600, Barry Schwartz wrote:
> Khaled Hosny skribis:
> > Well, things are changing now with the advent of LuaTeX, thanks to its
> > backward compatibility, it is taking slowly over TeX world (see ConTeXt
> > for example, which is being rewr
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 12:51:51PM -0600, Barry Schwartz wrote:
> Khaled Hosny skribis:
> > But how OFLB is going to fix this, I don't think you are suggesting that
> > we (OFLB community, whatever it means) rewrite most of free software
> > text layout stack (and fu
, scribus developers just ignored him[1].
[1] http://lists.scribus.info/pipermail/scribus-dev/2010-January/000509.html
Regards,
Khaled
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Free font developer
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On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 07:29:30PM +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:14:36AM -0600, Barry Schwartz wrote:
> > Khaled Hosny skribis:
> > > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 10:29:00AM +0100, Nicolas Spalinger wrote:
> > > > Dave? Ben? Jon? What about
On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 11:14:36AM -0600, Barry Schwartz wrote:
> Khaled Hosny skribis:
> > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 10:29:00AM +0100, Nicolas Spalinger wrote:
> > > Dave? Ben? Jon? What about the new site?
> >
> > I'm holding my breath for a functional GNU hurd
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 03:49:09PM +0100, Dave Crossland wrote:
> On 6 March 2010 05:56, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> >
> > I'm doing my libre, high quality Arabic revival for $2,000
>
> Oh wow, cool! Can you reveal any details about who and how this
> funding happened? :-
;)
But hey, I'm a FOSS zealot and am actually doing it for fun and out of
my admire to classic Arabic type.
Regards,
Khaled
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Free font developer
t; is very cool.
Very interesting! By mere coincidence, I'm preparing for an Arabic font
directed mainly for user interfaces and readability on screens, one have
to watch this Ubuntu font closely.
Regards,
Khaled
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Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team
Free font developer
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 12:45:00PM +0100, Nicolas Spalinger wrote:
> Khaled Hosny wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 10:29:00AM +0100, Nicolas Spalinger wrote:
> >> Dave? Ben? Jon? What about the new site?
> >
> > I'm holding my breath for a functional GNU hurd
On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 10:29:00AM +0100, Nicolas Spalinger wrote:
> Dave? Ben? Jon? What about the new site?
I'm holding my breath for a functional GNU hurd on which I'll run LaTeX3
using final STIX fonts downloaded from the new OFLB website.
Regards,
Khaled
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On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 08:19:30PM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le mercredi 15 juillet 2009 à 19:52 +0300, Khaled Hosny a écrit :
> > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 06:02:55PM +0200, nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:
do what their users want for decades now, why bother
replacing them. Converting Type1 fonts to OpenType isn't that simple,
and there is little gain to justify the effort (from TeX point of view)
and thus I expect these fonts to stay around for longer time.
Regards,
Khaled
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t; new derivative work in only the PS Type 1 format? I hope not ...
AMS fonts version 3.1 (released few weeks ago) is now OFL licensed.
http://www.ams.org/tex/amsfonts.html
Regards,
Khaled
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Free font developer
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> On 14 May 2009, 12:28 AM, "Khaled Hosny" wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 02:06:58PM -0400, Jon Stanley wrote: > On Wed, May
> 13, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Dave...
>
> If it is legal (I'm not saying it is, I'm not even a USA citizen), t
minable, atrocious, crummy".
> Point made?
If it is legal (I'm not saying it is, I'm not even a USA citizen), then
what is the problem? Remember that, in USA at least, copyright is
privilege not a natural right.
Regards,
Khaled
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On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 04:30:12PM -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 17:37 +0200, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 10:45:22AM -0400, Liam R E Quin wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 17:17 +0400, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> > >
> &
This assumes that the mere act of extracting fonts from PDF files is
illegal/immoral, which is not true.
Regards,
Khaled
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om PDF and saving in editable form is not rocket
> science. You just grab Fontmatrix/SVN :)
Or any, years old, FontForge release :)
Regards,
Khaled
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at all, it is overkill for the
purpose of previewing a font.
Now reading your TUG report, I think PCFP can be used to generate static
previews (either bitmaps or SVG) using a predefined sample text, then
Font Playground is used for dynamic testing of the font.
Regards,
Khaled
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glyph.
But then you forget about showing any CTL or advanced OpenType features
in the font.
Regards,
Khaled
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t; loading/handling via pango.
This would be overkill, why don't use Pango directly? I don't think we
need any of the typesetting features that XeLaTeX has.
Regards,
Khaled
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one could spend the time to write a SVG preview generator
> that could be integrated in web sites and package generation
> processes, that would be great.
I think Pango/Cairo can do this, IIRC cairo can output SVG directly,
right?
Regards,
Khaled
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ws gives more better and responsive
user experience, I think "font playground" already does this, just we
need to merge it into the "main body" of the page instead of the current
hidden (and annoying) separate popup (or whatever it is called).
Regards,
Khaled
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everybody
> knows and uses.
What about a Wikipedia like logo, where have some glyphs from major
scripts? I know that won't fit with the current logo design, just an
idea. (an "f" is too Latin centric for users of totally distinct
scripts like Arabic).
Regards,
--
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:51:53AM +, Dave Crossland wrote:
> 2008/11/25 Khaled Hosny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > But the FontForge screenshot in "Remix" page has a low quality that
> > doesn't fit with the polished design of the site :) is ther
the site :) is there any reason
you aren't using a better quality png instead of the current jpg?
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support this once day, as a
> >> 'fallback' for browsers without @font-face linking support :-)
> >
> > Even better would be to see @font-face supported more widely :D
>
> It seems pango is blocking @font-face from Firefox 3.1 on GNU/Linux...
And WebKitG
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