Gentlemen,
Please take conference organizing discussions off list.
Thank you.
sickleofzeus wrote:
--- In openhealth@yahoogroups.com, fred trotter fred.trot...@... wrote:
Hi everyone,
So we have just gotten 95% confirmation that the facilities for
FOSSHealth 09 (which happens
Fred is there a way to add comments to a suggestion to refine or
improve it?
fred trotter wrote:
HI,
Please help me determine what I will present as the FOSS
community perspective at the upcoming CCHIT/FOSS meeting. I have setup
a Google Moderator page for determining what
Alric,
The project you describe doesn't ring a bellI will send you a report
by separate email which I authored for Canada Health Infoway on
patient/consumer portal strategy (Canada's equivalent of the Office of
the National Coordinator in HHS). It is based on a review of several
Have a look at the RxNorm project at the NLM:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/research/umls/rxnorm/overview.html. Also the
caBIG effort has lots of goodies.
Joseph
Alvin Marcelo wrote:
This brings me to post this question:
We love open source and all the benefits it brings, but when it comes to
Thanks Karsten, that flew right past me. It would be ironic as Brian
Bray used to work for Microsoft.
Joseph
Karsten Hilbert wrote:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 09:54:21AM -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Sorry maybe it's just me and it's Monday morning.but what
**specifically** is being
Karsten
What specifically is being assimilated or owned by Msoft or are you just
making a rhetorical comment?
Joseph
Karsten Hilbert wrote:
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:58:01PM -0500, Ignacio Valdes wrote:
On the heels of the http://www.openhealthtools.org/ announcement, I
was wondering
A year or so ago I talked to Brian he had moved back to Vancouver.
It seems like eons...it's only 4 years ago that the SPIRIT project
which was funded by the European Commission completed its work. I wrote
the proposal which resulted in the European Commission FP5 funding, and
subsequently
...apologies for cross postingthis has relevance to both the VistA
and open source health community
In the past year or so there has been an increasing trend in open
source adoption in some key US health initiatives the CCHIT Laika
project and now this one:
I agree. In fact I personally recommended a well known IP attorney in
this area.
What would be best is someone who understands tax laws and not for
profits, that's where the land mines are.
Joseph
Tim Cook wrote:
Hi Sam,
Nice to talk to you again.
On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 16:09
WorldVistA EHR is CCHIT certified.
OpenVista is Medsphere trademark and product and is not CCHIT certified.
The VITL folks did show an interest in WoldVistA EHR... but their
selection process was structured, as these things typically are, with
the mindset
the legacy procurement model born of
Many of us wear multiple hats. 90% of the time, it does not matter
which hat we are wearing, but it is critical to clarify which hat is
being worn when speaking if there is the possibility of ambiguity.
Also, it is not actual ambiguity in our minds that matters - it is the
potential for
Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Something to think about Tim: would embedding collaboration in
something like IMIA impose any barriers to entry such as having to
pay a significant fee to joinand does the charter or culture of
that or any other organization impose any restrictions or political
There may be opportunities ahead.
I am optimistic too ;-)
Joseph
Adrian Midgley wrote:
Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
I totally agree with Tim... the pure ASP model is an accident
waiting to happen...I would not want to put a patient's life in the
hands of a network provider
. Comments and suggestions as to how to improve the
meeting will be most welcome.
Kindest regards,
Joseph
..
Joseph Dal Molin
OSHCA, Secretary
President, WorldVistA
Tel: 1.416.232.1206
William Lester wrote:
While I've been a lurker on the openhealth listserv for a while, I have
been paying
given that all OSHCA members will not be able to attend the meeting
in KL, how about setting up an OSHCA members only list so everyone who
is a member can begin discussing this and any other OSHCA member
specific ideas, issues etc.
Joseph
Molly Cheah wrote:
OSHCA has a provision for
Ciao Bud,
You bring up a good pointand that is that it would be good to
profile the key contributors to OSHCA's evolution. I believe much of the
previous oshca.org website material was captured. the agenda and
speakers for 2001 in London is there and I think the FAO hosted meeting
in
?
Tim Cook wrote:
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 10:47 -0400, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Would it be accurate to sum it up by saying that grounded theory in
the context of this thread means letting a hypothesis emerge from the
data as you collect it . and that's the connection to emergence?
Joseph
Hi Philippe,
Have a look at complex adaptive systems theory and evolutionary
ecologyit is very connected to FOSS and your webmergence concept.
Robert Axlerod's Harnessing Complexity is an excellent book on the
subject and ties the theory to open source. My academic background is in
to put this into the context of the VistA Office EHR project which
funded this effort the lab interface is based on the Mirth engine
and is one of the key components the VOE project funded to address CCHIT
certification requirements. Another development site is currently
working with
to the public, and if we
have any areas of overlap, then we should collaborate rather than
both develop the same lab channel(s).
With best regards,
[wr]
- - - - - - - -
On Mar 7, 2007, at 9:10 AM, Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
to put this into the context of the VistA Office EHR project
Tim,
The short answer is WorldVistA has some house cleaning to dothe
website you pointed to is our old Sourceforge hosted site which is
redirected to www.worldvista.org, you can still get to it if you know
the URL or perhaps Google will find it.
As for the OpenVistA nameWorldVistA
and M or GT.M for that
matter.
Porting it into Java was being discussed sometime ago.
I guess that would be a difficult job?
Nandalal
--- Joseph Dal Molin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It got 95% of the way there and needs more funding
to complete the work.
Right now it is in hibernation
a couple of important clarifications to Bhaskar's post:
Please note that this VERSION OF THE software has not been field tested.
this specific version has not been field tested
Furthermore, most of the components IN THIS VERSION OF VOE were
introduced to none of
the usual VistA
VOE like VistA has always had lab interfacing capabilitythe VA uses
Labcorp and I think Questbut out of the box interfacing requires
investing the time and money to make it work and the Beta process left
that up to the sites and their vendors to accomplish. The beta test
process
Ime,
If you haven't already this is a good group for content related work:
HIF-net: working together to improve access to reliable information for
healthcare providers in developing and transitional countries. Send list
messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. To join or leave the list, send an
email
Open source efforts/software like OpenMRS, WorldVistA (VistA Office
etc.), OSCAR etc. that are focused on diffusion/uptake and continuous
improvement. All need to have practical tools methods etc. to work
effectively in the heterogeneous health IT ecosystem. Building on Tim's
view:
I
UCLA had developed a very good scanning OCR solution . but I don't
think it was pure FOSS will ask.
Joseph
Tim Churches wrote:
Tim Churches wrote:
Karsten Hilbert wrote:
Well, the path of least resistance here is to scan it and
use it as a background image in some text editor or
FYI
http://osdl.org/wiki/dcl_health_care_day/index.php/Main_Page
Joseph
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The source code for CPRSchart is public domainto modify and
recompile you need an appropriate copy of Delphi.
Joseph
I'm uncertain why the assertion is made that CPRSChart.exe is under a
different copyright, and I don't have a specific pointer to its
licencing. If it is not public domain
Karl,
The service you are describing is being provided by State or regional
Quality Improvement Organizations (QIO) which are funded by CMS.
VistA-Office EHR provides full DOQ-IT capability and is open source. The
person you spoke to may not have mentioned it because it is not
officially
Philippe,
The country of incorporation for OSHCA is Malaysia not Indonesia. :-)
Joseph
Philippe AMELINE wrote:
Hi to all,
I must confess I feel not at ease with current situation.
The choice of Indonesia as an incorporation country has been a political
choice: to show that open/libre
perhaps there is someone on this list that might be interested in
helping Nancy out
Joseph
Original Message
Subject: [Hardhats-members] JBoss and Tomcat
Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 23:20:38 -0400
From: Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:
FYI
Original Message
Subject: [hif-net] Announcing the launch of PLoS Clinical Trials
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 06:55:22 -0400
From: Emma Veitch, UK [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: HIF-net - Health Information Forum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: HIF-net - Health Information Forum [EMAIL
Thank you for sharing this Thomasit is brilliant...being able to
articulate the advantages of open source in a sales scenario as
clearly as you have in this example is of tremendous value.
Joseph
Thomas Beale wrote:
But in the end the argument that they understood was this:
- every
Tommy Thompson was quoted on this subject today (he must be a subscriber
to openhealth):
Even though American health care is the best in the world, said
Thompson, he predicts the health care system will collapse about 2013.
The first reason is that we spend about 16 percent of our GDP on
...some thoughts...
What would standardizing on ICD-10 mean in the context of an
organization such as OSHCA given the reality the heterogenous landscape
of ICD adoption... what would this mean in real practice? What would
this imply for those systems using ICD - 9 for example? Would it be
that:- This Inaugural Meeting forms Open Source
Health Care Alliance in accordance with the Societies Act 1966, and the
Societies Regulations 1984, and all subsequent amendments.
Moved by : Joseph dal Molin
Seconded by : Adrian Midgley
Resolution: Passed
1.2It was resolved
to pass? It will be very helpful to have the archive for many reasons,
not to mention documenting the history of this community.
Cheers,
Joseph
Nandalal Gunaratne wrote:
Joseph Dal Molin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It was Tim Cook who created the OSHCA moniker
and Ignacio has played
A point or two on the notion of founding members, for what it is worth:
There is no founding member category of membership in the ROS process
for incorporating OSHCA...just Associate and Ordinary membersand
these categories apply after incorporation too.
If there are founding members
Will,
For some reason I didn't receive the email you sent below with the
attached formplease resend a copy to me for the record.
Joseph
Molly Cheah wrote:
Hi Will,
What you have done is incorrect. As you disagree with the constitution,
we will not be able to include your name in the
Fred,
Nothing is being discardedI am taking minutes.
There is no disadvantage to waiting to register with OSHCA until after
this clunky process for bootstraping incorporation is complete. In
fact, given the clunky birthing process and concerns raised, it will be
extremely important for
.
Secondly, I have indicated my agreement with all of the resolutions set
out in the Inaugural Meeting form and have sent the completed form to
Molly and Joseph Dal Molin as requested. I urge others who wish to help
found OSHCA as a formal organisation to do similarly.
Tim C
I do too. so let's all work to make it a key area of focus for OSHCA.
Joseph
Thomas Beale wrote:
I have to agree with Dave here - I see it as problematic if OSHCA
doesn't see interoperability as a key issue. FOSS just gets you
applications and components. Interoperable FOSS gets you
James,
Good ideaas far as VistA-Office is concerned we will be shortly be
working through the CCHIT/ONCHIT EHR criteria which includes
interoperabilityonce we have done that we will gladly
contribute/link to a common reference page.
Joseph
James Busser wrote:
On Apr 23, 2006,
OSHCA meetings have always been open to anyone. While there has been
much progress without OSHCA and there are other open source working
groups imbedded in organizations like AMIA etc. there is a need for an
open international forum whose focus is solely open source in health and
provides a
Nandalal Gunaratne wrote:
It seems to me that Fred is going to review just these, and others are
supposed to chiop in with some reviews or part of reviews of any other
EMRs worth talking about.
Open VistA remains to be reviewed and OSCAR.
May I suggest that we use the label VistA as the
Hi Philippe,
Last I heard Yves moved to a new department in the European
CommissionI don't recall where. Brian or Carlo Daffara would likely
know
Joseph
Philippe AMELINE wrote:
Hi,
This short message to say how happy I am to see Brian back.
Many of us have been able to meet and
I checked mailarchive.com and it is still operational...but don't know
how far back it goes.
Joseph
Brian Bray wrote:
There have been 12928 messages. At a rough guess, this would consume
most of the storage capacity at Yahoo to have in a searchable format.
Some form of protection for email
Legal protection in the context of an organization like OSHCA is IMHO
not a major concern. What is more important is how the countries laws
influence governance.
David Forslund wrote:
I don't understand why this is good or even relevant. What should
matter is the legal protection
provided
Lorie,
Not sure what you mean by OSHISin any case your best bet is to ask
this question on the VistA community's listserve (although Greg
Woodhouse may be able to answer it here):
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Joseph
lorie_obal wrote:
I'm studying the the
This is a US initiative...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The current CCHIT pricing module seems biased against any GPL based
system.
Joseph has already written about this, but I would like for us to
consider
group action in the issue.
The first issue is pricing. It will cost
Philippe AMELINE wrote:
I am ok to put a workflow engine among the front office services, but
are you talking about a workflow of people/acts (something like a care
path) or a workflow of documents?
Good point Philippe from my now outdated experience with workflow
tools, there used
An excellent summary Thomas! The following point really strikes a chord,
especially as the VistA-Office EHR team is about to begin to work to
meet the ONCHIT EHR certification criteria:
, it is definitely not a given that OS efforts will
do any better at exploiting it than commercial ones.
While this is a US specific issue similar challenges have or are
about to crop up elsewhere as countries seem to mimic each others
policies and initiatives a great deal when it comes to health IT. Our UK
friends are quite familiar with thisand we are starting to see
similar patterns
Adrian has captured my sentiments exactly. Sorry for the delay in
replyingjust got back from Italywould have replied sooner if my
plans for Internet access at my mom's place worked out on time.
Joseph
Adrian Midgley wrote:
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 09:47 +0800, Dr Molly Cheah wrote:
I feel a partnership between a couple of IT savyy clinicians and expert
programmers with a wholesome way of looking at things, can create the
infrastructure of the future HISs.
Nandalal, you have in one sentence described how VistA was first
developed and evolved for the better part of its
- Christian Heller
- Joseph Dal Molin
- David Chan
- Nandalal Gunaratne
- K.S. Bhaskar
- Thaddeus N. Albers
- Mike McCoy (indirectly through Joseph Dal Molin)
- Jubal John (interest in background of the key people involved)
- 7 further people who voted on the second mailing list-question
Yes indeed there are many new ones:
Search results for hl7
* OpenEMed
OpenEMed is a distributed healthcare and medical information
framework based on open standards including those of HL7 and the
healthcare taskforce of the OMG. These standards include identity
management,
Having architected the SPIRIT site (www.euspirit.org)one that
unfortunately fell into the updated a couple of years ago category...I
feel very strongly that there is a need for an objective, idealy
evidence based site of this kind and would be happy to share my
experience and brainstorm.
are
on these lists.
Joseph
Molly Cheah wrote:
Joseph Dal Molin wrote:
Dr Molly Cheah wrote:
Thank you Alric for the offer. My priority is to get OSHCA formed as an
organisation, possibly with those who express support for its formation
as founding members. Views
I agree enthusiastically with Adrian's advice assuming that one of the
goals for OSHCA is being a catalyst for change.
Building on these thoughts a first order of business would be a frank
discussion of what we did right and what could be improved on vis a vis
the first iteration of OSHCA.
Molly,
You can count me in for the committee... I have also exchanged email
with Mike McCoy and he is willing to lend a hand. For those on this list
who don't know Mike, he recently retired as the CIO of the UCLA Medical
Centre and Medical School. He sponsored OSHCA 2002 in Los Angeles and is
Who is we, if I may ask?
Joseph
jeet chel wrote:
Hello All,
We are planning to arrange a workshop in
India on use of Open Source Software in the Healthcare
segment, and looking for someone who has used open
source software for Healthcare, who can give a
talk(case study or a
?
Joseph dal Molin might be able to rent space on
http://www.worldvista.org/ to a firm in Redmond
Tim C
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