On Mon, 5 Feb 2024 19:08:26 +0100, Andreas Wacknitz via openindiana-discuss
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> Am 04.02.24 um 23:20 schrieb Goetz T. Fischer:
>> On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 09:37:26 +0100, Andreas Wacknitz via openindiana-discuss
>> wrote:
>>> You can only update individual packages when you uninstall both,
>>>
Am 04.02.24 um 23:20 schrieb Goetz T. Fischer:
On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 09:37:26 +0100, Andreas Wacknitz via openindiana-discuss
wrote:
You can only update individual packages when you uninstall both,
userland-incorporation and entire.
i did so and got the exact same reply as before. and using
On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 09:37:26 +0100, Andreas Wacknitz via openindiana-discuss
wrote:
> You can only update individual packages when you uninstall both,
> userland-incorporation and entire.
i did so and got the exact same reply as before. and using install instead
fails with tons of
Am 04.02.24 um 03:21 schrieb Goetz T. Fischer:
well it might not be so good after all. for example just updating openssl:
root@openindiana:~# pkg list library/security/openssl-31
NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSIONIFO
library/security/openssl-31
well it might not be so good after all. for example just updating openssl:
root@openindiana:~# pkg list library/security/openssl-31
NAME (PUBLISHER) VERSIONIFO
library/security/openssl-31 3.1.4-2023.0.0.1 i--
fair, that's good enough for me. much thanks for all the great info !!
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 12:22:20 +0100, Marcel Telka wrote:
> Sure. It should somehow (and usually) work, modulo the
> userland-incorporation warning in my previous mail. So it is
> discouraged.
On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 12:13:48PM +0100, Goetz T. Fischer wrote:
> sure, that's fine. if the package i selected for an update does require a
> reboot then so be it. the idea
> is just to avoid reboots for things i don't necessarily need to be up to date.
> how much that would reduce reboots ...
sure, that's fine. if the package i selected for an update does require a
reboot then so be it. the idea
is just to avoid reboots for things i don't necessarily need to be up to date.
how much that would reduce reboots ... not sure, but maybe it would save some.
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 12:05:46
On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 11:52:25AM +0100, Goetz T. Fischer wrote:
> no sorry, i wasn't clear. not one isolated package of course but whatever
> "pkg update some_great_app"
> triggers.
No, you were clear. My "ssh only and nothing else" as an example was
confusing. I meant ssh (and all tightly
no sorry, i wasn't clear. not one isolated package of course but whatever "pkg
update some_great_app"
triggers.
the idea is to limit the updates to what i deem sensitive and whatever else
those updates drag in with
them is fine. reboots included because it would likely not be as often as doing
On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 10:59:05AM +0100, Goetz T. Fischer wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 10:49:37 +0100, Marcel Telka wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 10:27:32AM +0100, Goetz T. Fischer wrote:
> >> which would mean pretty much every update needs a reboot.
> >
> > If you need to be always
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 10:49:37 +0100, Marcel Telka wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 10:27:32AM +0100, Goetz T. Fischer wrote:
>> which would mean pretty much every update needs a reboot.
>
> If you need to be always up-to-date. All the time and with all packages
> available then yes, you need to
On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 10:48:30AM +0100, Goetz T. Fischer wrote:
> well, looking at their release notes
> https://raw.githubusercontent.com/omniosorg/omnios-build/r151046/doc/ReleaseNotes.md
> 1 reboot per month on average. that i can do with indiana as well.
If you really need very long
On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 10:27:32AM +0100, Goetz T. Fischer wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 10:03:47 +0100, Marcel Telka wrote:
> > OTOH, system/library in OI (and also the rest of "kernel" - the
> > illumos-gate) is rebuild once a day and almost all pacakges depends on
> > them (either directly or
well, looking at their release notes
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/omniosorg/omnios-build/r151046/doc/ReleaseNotes.md
1 reboot per month on average. that i can do with indiana as well.
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 01:23:28 -0800, Joshua M. Clulow via openindiana-discuss
wrote:
> If you're looking for
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 10:03:47 +0100, Marcel Telka wrote:
> OTOH, system/library in OI (and also the rest of "kernel" - the
> illumos-gate) is rebuild once a day and almost all pacakges depends on
> them (either directly or indirectly).
which would mean pretty much every update needs a reboot.
how
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 at 00:54, Goetz T. Fischer wrote:
> i'm aware of the disadvantages but i'd like to have the choice to do so
> anyway if/when i see fit.
If you're looking for a server-centric distribution that produces
critical bug and security updates without the constant churn, you
should
On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 08:56:30AM +0100, Goetz T. Fischer wrote:
> of course but that raises the question why new libs would require a reboot.
> the worst that could happen
New libs does not require reboot on their own. The problem is with
system/library only (and few other similar). The
i'm aware of the disadvantages but i'd like to have the choice to do so anyway
if/when i see fit.
On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 10:22:43 +0200, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote:
> reboot is needed to verify your setup is still working as supposed after an
> update. You can have
> different kind
> On 8. Jan 2024, at 09:56, Goetz T. Fischer wrote:
>
> of course but that raises the question why new libs would require a reboot.
> the worst that could happen
> is that programs which depend on that lib would crash if they're restarted.
> but if they're also updated,
> then the next
of course but that raises the question why new libs would require a reboot. the
worst that could happen
is that programs which depend on that lib would crash if they're restarted. but
if they're also updated,
then the next time they're restarted or just started it'll be fine.
let's say there's
On Mon, Jan 08, 2024 at 06:21:31AM +0100, Andreas Wacknitz via
openindiana-discuss wrote:
> "pfexec pkg freeze osnet-incorporation" does mostly what you want.
> It prohibits the update of packages that come from illumos-gate.
> There are only few other packages (eg. NVIDIA drivers) from OI
Am 08.01.24 um 04:07 schrieb Goetz T. Fischer:
hi,
a general question:
i did a "pkg update" on the 2nd and another one just now. so just a few days
later but again a new be
was created and i had to reboot. of course i understand that for certain things
a reboot is necessary
but is there a
> On Jan 7, 2024, at 22:07, Goetz T. Fischer wrote:
>
> hi,
>
> a general question:
>
> i did a "pkg update" on the 2nd and another one just now. so just a few days
> later but again a new be
> was created and i had to reboot. of course i understand that for certain
> things a reboot is
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