Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Which OI service cleans up hidden NFS files?

nfsfind script is as follows: if [ ! -s /etc/dfs/sharetab ]; then exit ; fi # Get all NFS filesystems exported with read-write permission. DIRS=`/usr/bin/nawk '($3 != "nfs") { next } ($4 ~ /^rw$|^rw,|^rw=|,rw,|,rw=|,rw$/) { print $1; next } ($4 !~

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Which OI service cleans up hidden NFS files?

On Tue, 4 May 2021 at 16:25, Judah Richardson wrote: > Extremely stupid question: is the fact that those mounted locations contain > ZFS snapshots resulting from znapzend's underlying use of zfs send & receive > and not actual physical directories possibly why find, cd, etc. can't reach > them? >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Which OI service cleans up hidden NFS files?

Extremely stupid question: is the fact that those mounted locations contain ZFS snapshots resulting from znapzend's underlying use of zfs send & receive and not actual physical directories possibly why find, cd, etc. can't reach them? Shooting in the dark here; that's the only thing I can come up

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Multiboot on PC

On 2021-05-04 16:03, John D Groenveld wrote: In message , Chris writes: I would _think_ at this point in time pretty much any (recent version of) OS would have little trouble installing their firmware into the ESP making (U)EFI multi-boot pretty simple as compared to the trickery involved in

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Which OI service cleans up hidden NFS files?

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 5:53 PM Alan Coopersmith wrote: > On 5/4/21 3:38 PM, Judah Richardson wrote: > > I did some searching about the error message and found this Solaris > > documentation page > > about > > removing hidden NFS

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Which OI service cleans up hidden NFS files?

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 5:46 PM Joshua M. Clulow via openindiana-discuss < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > On Tue, 4 May 2021 at 15:39, Judah Richardson > wrote: > > The other day my OI machine emailed (thank Peter Tribble, *et al*, who > > helped me get that set up) me this error:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Multiboot on PC

In message , Chris writes: >I would _think_ at this point in time pretty much any (recent version of) >OS would have little trouble installing their firmware into the ESP >making (U)EFI multi-boot pretty simple as compared to the trickery >involved in fooling/abusing the MBR to obtain multi-boot.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Which OI service cleans up hidden NFS files?

On 5/4/21 3:38 PM, Judah Richardson wrote: I did some searching about the error message and found this Solaris documentation page about removing hidden NFS files. It says that the above error is due to something called nfsfind, but

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Which OI service cleans up hidden NFS files?

On Tue, 4 May 2021 at 15:39, Judah Richardson wrote: > The other day my OI machine emailed (thank Peter Tribble, *et al*, who > helped me get that set up) me this error: > > find: cannot open /znapzend/DellOptiPlex390MT/ROOT/openindiana: No such > file or directory > > I did some searching about

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Which OI service cleans up hidden NFS files?

Hi All, The other day my OI machine emailed (thank Peter Tribble, *et al*, who helped me get that set up) me this error: find: cannot open /znapzend/DellOptiPlex390MT/ROOT/openindiana: No such file or directory find: cannot open /znapzend/DellOptiPlex390MT/export/home/judah: No such file or

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Multiboot on PC

On 2021-05-04 12:59, James Madgwick wrote: On Mon, 3 May 2021 20:16:28 +0300 Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote: Only simple way is to use chainloader (point it to OS partition), then you are not depending on file system reader implementation etc etc. rgds, toomas The OI handbook

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 5:16 PM Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > > I did just that. I hit "install" took the defaults, did a reboot and got > "non-system disk or disk error". Z840 and 4 TB disk. 1) Try a disk under 2 TB 2) Set the BIOS to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

I did just that. I hit "install" took the defaults, did a reboot and got "non-system disk or disk error". Z840 and 4 TB disk. I got that result with both 2020.10.31 and 2021.04.30. What I did is *exactly* what most new users would do. I just checked the other stuff to see if the image was

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI-hipster-gui-20210430.iso progress report on 3 virtualization system

> On 5. May 2021, at 00:41, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: > > I've now made installation attempts with the > OI-hipster-gui-20210430.iso image on these three virtualization > systems: > > * CentoS 7.9virt-manager/QEMU > * Ubuntu 20.04 virt-manager/QEMU > * Ubuntu 20.04

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

Thank you, that at least gives me a toe hold. There has been considerable churn in the source organization since I started using OI (151_a5) and several attempts to sort out what was where and what the overall structure was left me quite baffled. The wiki has a lot of information which is

[OpenIndiana-discuss] OI-hipster-gui-20210430.iso progress report on 3 virtualization system

I've now made installation attempts with the OI-hipster-gui-20210430.iso image on these three virtualization systems: * CentoS 7.9virt-manager/QEMU * Ubuntu 20.04 virt-manager/QEMU * Ubuntu 20.04 VirtualBox Each VM is given 4GB DRAM, 4 CPUs, and 80GB disk; the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

On Tue, 4 May 2021 at 12:44, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I'd be glad to fix them if I knew where the files that need to be modified > were located. Please enlighten me. You have been saying for months that you want to help, if only people would tell you where all the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Multiboot on PC

On Mon, 3 May 2021 20:16:28 +0300 Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss wrote: > Only simple way is to use chainloader (point it to OS partition), > then you are not depending on file system reader implementation etc > etc. > > rgds, > toomas The OI handbook documents use of chainloader just

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 3:53 PM Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > I'm going to try one more time. > > > --- > The 2021.04.30 GUI

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

I'd be glad to fix them if I knew where the files that need to be modified were located. Please enlighten me. I tried to find the source for the text-install screen that incorrectly states an EFI whole disk will only use 2 TB. Python loads packages from a library, but I wasn't able to find

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We have install images which work!

> On 4. May 2021, at 22:09, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss > wrote: > > I was doing bare metal on an HP Z840. Does anyone know of any documentation > on the VBox boot process? It's obviously not running the BIOS initial loader > to read the first sector on the disk. > > Reg >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We have install images which work!

I was doing bare metal on an HP Z840. Does anyone know of any documentation on the VBox boot process? It's obviously not running the BIOS initial loader to read the first sector on the disk. Reg On Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 01:35:59 PM CDT, epektasis wrote: FWIW, I downloaded the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We have install images which work!

On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 02:52:01PM +, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I'm going to try one more time. > > --- > The 2021.04.30 GUI Live Image has major

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

On Tue, 4 May 2021, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: All of these issues are also present in 2020.10.31 and possibly older releases. This is a huge deterrent to new users. None of them is a major task to fix. Will you be submitting the fixes soon? Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Updates in OI

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 12:05 PM Lou Picciano wrote: > > > > On May 4, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Judah Richardson > wrote: > > > > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 8:51 AM Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss < > > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > > > >> > >>> On 4. May 2021, at 16:27, Dave Miner

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:53 AM Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > I'm going to try one more time. > > > --- > The 2021.04.30 GUI

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Updates in OI

> On May 4, 2021, at 12:57 PM, Judah Richardson > wrote: > > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 8:51 AM Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss < > openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > >> >>> On 4. May 2021, at 16:27, Dave Miner wrote: >>> >>>  >>> >>> On 5/4/2021 8:59 AM, Yassine Chaouche

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Updates in OI

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 8:51 AM Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > > > On 4. May 2021, at 16:27, Dave Miner wrote: > > > >  > > > > On 5/4/2021 8:59 AM, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > > > Le 5/4/21 à 1:43 PM, Stephan Althaus a écrit : > > >> > > >>

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 8:35 AM Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > > > On 4. May 2021, at 16:01, Yassine Chaouche > wrote: > > > > Le 5/4/21 à 1:54 PM, Aurélien Larcher a écrit : > >>> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:40 PM Judah Richardson < >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 7:56 AM Aurélien Larcher wrote: > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:40 PM Judah Richardson > > wrote: > > > On Tue, May 4, 2021, 07:25 Yassine Chaouche < > a.chaou...@algerian-radio.dz> > > wrote: > > > > > Le 5/4/21 à 5:24 AM, Judah Richardson a écrit : > > > > From a practical

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

Le 5/4/21 à 4:52 PM, Yassine Chaouche a écrit : I am beginning to appreciate a little more how containers fix this compatibility issue. The only thing I need to figure out is how to get the most out of containers optimisation-wise, i.e still getting a way to share common libraries between

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

Le 5/4/21 à 3:37 PM, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss a écrit : Well you can *update* packages and remain in same OS version. Or, you can *upgrade* to next OS version, for example from Ubuntu 16 to Ubuntu 17. In that case yes, breaks happen, and most users prefer to simply reinstall

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

In message , =?UTF-8?Q?Aur=C3=A9lien_Larcher?= writes: >Upgrades of Ubuntu LTS break more than OI on my server and without any >possibility of rollback to a previous boot environment... The Project Trident devs are making progress to integrate BEs into Void Linux. https://project-trident.org/>

[OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

I'm going to try one more time. --- The 2021.04.30 GUI Live Image has major problems. gparted(1m) dumps core the documentation mentioned on the first GUI installer screen is missing

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

> On 4. May 2021, at 16:55, Yassine Chaouche > wrote: > > Le 5/4/21 à 2:34 PM, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss a écrit : >> Upgrades of Ubuntu LTS break more than OI on my server and without any >> possibility of rollback to a previous boot environment... >>> Upgrades != updates. >>

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 3:56 PM Yassine Chaouche < a.chaou...@algerian-radio.dz> wrote: > Le 5/4/21 à 2:34 PM, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss a écrit : > > Upgrades of Ubuntu LTS break more than OI on my server and without any > > possibility of rollback to a previous boot environment... >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

Le 5/4/21 à 2:34 PM, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss a écrit : Upgrades of Ubuntu LTS break more than OI on my server and without any possibility of rollback to a previous boot environment... Upgrades != updates. Hm, what is the difference?:) Rgds, Toomas Well you can *update* packages

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Updates in OI

> On 4. May 2021, at 16:27, Dave Miner wrote: > >  > > On 5/4/2021 8:59 AM, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > > Le 5/4/21 à 1:43 PM, Stephan Althaus a écrit : > >> > >> Hello! > >> > >> We have "Boot environments" > >> > >> On every "pkg update" you get a new BE that will be used on next reboot. > >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

> On 4. May 2021, at 16:01, Yassine Chaouche > wrote: > > Le 5/4/21 à 1:54 PM, Aurélien Larcher a écrit : >>> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:40 PM Judah Richardson >>> wrote: >>> On Tue, May 4, 2021, 07:25 Yassine Chaouche >>> wrote: Le 5/4/21 à 5:24 AM, Judah Richardson a écrit : >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Updates in OI

On 5/4/2021 8:59 AM, Yassine Chaouche wrote: > Le 5/4/21 à 1:43 PM, Stephan Althaus a écrit : >> >> Hello! >> >> We have "Boot environments" >> >> On every "pkg update" you get a new BE that will be used on next reboot. > > This is just > ... > Is this done by issuing a ZFS snapshot of the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Updates in OI

Le 5/4/21 à 1:55 PM, Judah Richardson a écrit : Missing an update increases your chances of breaking the system on next update. Correct with all OSes. The bigger the gap between versions, the less reliable/robust the update will be. Not in my experience. I can go months without doing

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

Le 5/4/21 à 1:54 PM, Aurélien Larcher a écrit : On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:40 PM Judah Richardson wrote: On Tue, May 4, 2021, 07:25 Yassine Chaouche wrote: Le 5/4/21 à 5:24 AM, Judah Richardson a écrit : From a practical perspective, I don't think OI has the option you want. It's a rolling

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Updates in OI

Le 5/4/21 à 1:43 PM, Stephan Althaus a écrit : Hello! We have "Boot environments" On every "pkg update" you get a new BE that will be used on next reboot. This is just XXKc''',,',dk0KKXN

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Updates in OI

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 7:36 AM Yassine Chaouche < a.chaou...@algerian-radio.dz> wrote: > Dear OI community, > > I was never fond of Rolling Releases. I generally don't use them either unless they're the only way to get decently recent packages. The only other rolling release I use is the pkg

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:40 PM Judah Richardson wrote: > On Tue, May 4, 2021, 07:25 Yassine Chaouche > wrote: > > > Le 5/4/21 à 5:24 AM, Judah Richardson a écrit : > > > From a practical perspective, I don't think OI has the option you want. > > > It's a rolling release distribution. I > > So,

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Updates in OI

On 05/04/21 02:34 PM, Yassine Chaouche wrote: Dear OI community, I was never fond of Rolling Releases. I tried a couple times, it always ended in an unrecoverable system and me switching back to a classic LTS linux distro (I'm a linux user myself). It generally boils down to these two

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

On Tue, May 4, 2021, 07:25 Yassine Chaouche wrote: > Le 5/4/21 à 5:24 AM, Judah Richardson a écrit : > > From a practical perspective, I don't think OI has the option you want. > > It's a rolling release distribution. I > So, just to be clear for outsiders like myself. I thought Hipster > was

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Updates in OI

Dear OI community, I was never fond of Rolling Releases. I tried a couple times, it always ended in an unrecoverable system and me switching back to a classic LTS linux distro (I'm a linux user myself). It generally boils down to these two essential problems :  1- Never miss an update. Missing

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

> On 4. May 2021, at 15:24, Yassine Chaouche > wrote: > > Le 5/4/21 à 5:24 AM, Judah Richardson a écrit : >> From a practical perspective, I don't think OI has the option you want. >> It's a rolling release distribution. I > So, just to be clear for outsiders like myself. I thought Hipster >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

Le 5/4/21 à 5:24 AM, Judah Richardson a écrit : From a practical perspective, I don't think OI has the option you want. It's a rolling release distribution. I So, just to be clear for outsiders like myself. I thought Hipster was the Rolling Release Branch. I assumed OI had another fixed release