Re: Innovation again (was Re: Text classes)

2017-12-05 Thread John-Val Rose
Absolutely - there needs to be a viable community that is not just Oracle. So, is there one? If not, how do we build one? OK, so let me rephrase my earlier email: I am willing to work with *anyone* (within Oracle or not) on the features that the community craves, such as those I listed (and

Re: Innovation again (was Re: Text classes)

2017-12-05 Thread Philip Race
There needs to be a viable community that is not just Oracle to support you here .. I think everyone has come to be dependent on Oracle to "be there". But if there is a specific community need that Oracle doesn't see as essential, then the community should help out. -phil. On 12/5/17, 9:27

Re: Innovation again (was Re: Text classes)

2017-12-05 Thread John-Val Rose
Well, that’s all fine but you didn’t address the issue of working with someone within Oracle to get these innovations done. Sure, I could just toil away by myself but clearly it would be better all around if there was someone with much more extensive knowledge of JavaFX and its internals who

Re: Innovation again (was Re: Text classes)

2017-12-05 Thread Philip Race
I think looking at it as an Oracle-owned and controlled project maybe the first mistake here. Yes it was closed source and then Oracle controlled, but not any more, OCA requirements aside. It is not even a "java specification". It can be evolved at an API level without a JSR. The JEP process is

Innovation again (was Re: Text classes)

2017-12-05 Thread John-Val Rose
Phil et. al., Whilst I’m not going to be quite as “passionate” as some on this issue (although I do understand the frustration), I would like to point out again that this is indeed a huge gap and it is critical that it is filled ASAP. Obviously a solution where every word in a text document is

Re: Text classes

2017-12-05 Thread javafx
Sorry about all the typos previously.  Question- why not use the code in awt ? I am not totally up on what's going on with the platforms' native rendering engines ( meaning, I have no idea whatsoever) or how they have changed, but golly it sure does still work pretty well.  At least it

Re: Proposal For Inclusion of Robot and ParametersImpl in the Public API

2017-12-05 Thread Kevin Rushforth
Glad you got the build working. You can post back on this thread when you are ready. -- Kevin Michael Ennen wrote: Correction: Adding ""--add-exports javafx.graphics/javafx.scene.robot=ALL-UNNAMED" to buildSrc/addExports. For posterity :) On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Michael Ennen

Re: Text classes

2017-12-05 Thread javafx
No Oracle plans !!!  My one sentence rant: Interactive infographics are a cool way to represent complex information and actgually represent a genuinely new way to communicate information which in some cases is also the best way or all possible ways, but there are at least two other ways that

Re: Text classes

2017-12-05 Thread Phil Race
This is a gap it would be nice to fill. Since it is not a small effort to do right there'd be a design side as well as implementation so it can't be just 'slid in'. And I don't think just moving internal APIs to public is the way to approach it. There are no current plans to allocate Oracle

feedback on item

2017-12-05 Thread javafx
Any feedback on this item? I had the same issue. I haven't gotten any response. They must already be aware of it but they're not tipping their hand about what if anything they plan to do about it or what release improvements might appear in.  For an easy 1000 yd. overview of what's

[10] Review request: 8148939: Font rendering artifacts on Adobe.com

2017-12-05 Thread Arunprasad Rajkumar
Hi Kevin, Phil, Please review the following fix related to LCD text rendering issue in Windows, Bug: https://bugs.openjdk.java.net/browse/JDK-8148939 Patch: http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~arajkumar/8148939/webrev Root cause: Padding is added for "left, bottom and right" parts to avoid LCD text

Re: Font metrics in JavaFX Canvas

2017-12-05 Thread David Gilbert
Any feedback on this item? Best regards, David Gilbert > On 30 Nov 2017, at 08:26, David Gilbert wrote: > > Hello, > > I have an open source project FXGraphics2D [1] that provides a Graphics2D API > for the JavaFX canvas. It is open source and used to provide JavaFX support