Re: The rise and fall of Builders

2013-08-30 Thread Tom Eugelink
I know, the question was based on the best to cycle off builders remark, then what is advised to use as an alternative? Tom On 2013-08-30 06:56, Richard Bair wrote: You can still use your own Builders and plug them into FXML. Its just that the built in set won't be there. But the Builder

Re: The rise and fall of Builders

2013-08-30 Thread Richard Bair
Using your own builders is fine, I mean you best not use the deprecated ones as they will be disappearing. On Aug 29, 2013, at 10:56 PM, Tom Eugelink t...@tbee.org wrote: I know, the question was based on the best to cycle off builders remark, then what is advised to use as an alternative?

Re: The rise and fall of Builders

2013-08-29 Thread Jonathan Giles
You can catch up on the back story here: http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2013-March/006725.html -- Jonathan On 30/08/2013 7:06 a.m., Felix Bembrick wrote: I was not privy to the original discussion but I am lead to believe that Builders are no longer considered fashionable

Re: The rise and fall of Builders

2013-08-29 Thread Richard Bair
Actually you are privy to the original discussion -- it is all in the mailing list history :-) http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/openjfx-dev/2013-March/006725.html The long and the short of it -- getting the generics right in a way that allowed for API evolution turned out to be a

Re: The rise and fall of Builders

2013-08-29 Thread Felix Bembrick
Thanks Jonathan, So what is Oracle's current position on this? Are Builders in or out? If out, when will they be removed and how? On 30 August 2013 05:31, Jonathan Giles jonathan.gi...@oracle.com wrote: You can catch up on the back story here:

Re: The rise and fall of Builders

2013-08-29 Thread Richard Bair
Deprecated in 8 and removed from the JavaDoc, gone in 9 (will be available as a separately downloadable Jar so you can keep using them, but they won't be updated). We're removing them from samples. Best to cycle off the builders. Richard On Aug 29, 2013, at 12:42 PM, Felix Bembrick

Re: The rise and fall of Builders

2013-08-29 Thread Tom Eugelink
This week I ran into the problem that I needed to provide a date format (attribute in FXML) to one of my controls. So I needed a way to convert a string to DateFormat, or even a comma separated list to a list of DateFormats. This I solved with a builder for that control. How would one solved

Re: The rise and fall of Builders

2013-08-29 Thread Richard Bair
You can still use your own Builders and plug them into FXML. Its just that the built in set won't be there. But the Builder base class and all the FXML support is still there. All mentioned in that long thread :-D Richard On Aug 29, 2013, at 9:50 PM, Tom Eugelink t...@tbee.org wrote: This