Re: Chances of open sourcing SceneBuilder

2013-11-19 Thread Kevin Rushforth

Hi Philipp,

There is a JIRA filed to track the open sourcing or SceneBuilder:

https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-34175

Someone from the SceneBuilder team can comment on the status of this.

-- Kevin


Philipp Dörfler wrote:

Hello list,

I can’t but acknowledge the work put into SceneBuilder especially when seeing 
SceneBuilder 2 who apparently underwent a serious and well done design overhaul 
(I still want to see a dark theme ;) ). Well done!

As much as I love the new design the Early Access 2.0 version feels very rough 
and makes clear that this tool needs a lot of love. I thought about 
contributing to OpenJFX for quite some time but would actually rather spend 
time on improving SceneBuilder than working on juicy API internals that are 
better left to guys that truly know what they do ;) Things like better IDE 
integration or making the keyframe based animation API accessible in the GUI 
already (To at least partially get to where JavaFX 1 Designer once was or 
wanted to be) come to my mind.

As far as I know there are currently no plans of open sourcing Scene Builder 
but I wondered if there’s even a chance for it and what would be required for 
that to happen? Seeing that the JFX team probably has a very tight schedule and 
spent a lot of time open sourcing the core components already I’m afraid that a 
OSS SceneBuilder would be kind of impossible. Am I too pessimistic?

Cheers,
~ Philipp


Re: Chances of open sourcing SceneBuilder

2013-11-19 Thread Kevin Rushforth

I see Joe already responded with status (my e-mail crossed his).

-- Kevin


Kevin Rushforth wrote:

Hi Philipp,

There is a JIRA filed to track the open sourcing or SceneBuilder:

https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-34175

Someone from the SceneBuilder team can comment on the status of this.

-- Kevin


Philipp Dörfler wrote:

Hello list,

I can’t but acknowledge the work put into SceneBuilder especially 
when seeing SceneBuilder 2 who apparently underwent a serious and 
well done design overhaul (I still want to see a dark theme ;) ). 
Well done!


As much as I love the new design the Early Access 2.0 version feels 
very rough and makes clear that this tool needs a lot of love. I 
thought about contributing to OpenJFX for quite some time but would 
actually rather spend time on improving SceneBuilder than working on 
juicy API internals that are better left to guys that truly know what 
they do ;) Things like better IDE integration or making the keyframe 
based animation API accessible in the GUI already (To at least 
partially get to where JavaFX 1 Designer once was or wanted to be) 
come to my mind.


As far as I know there are currently no plans of open sourcing Scene 
Builder but I wondered if there’s even a chance for it and what would 
be required for that to happen? Seeing that the JFX team probably has 
a very tight schedule and spent a lot of time open sourcing the core 
components already I’m afraid that a OSS SceneBuilder would be kind 
of impossible. Am I too pessimistic?


Cheers,
~ Philipp


Re: Chances of open sourcing SceneBuilder

2013-11-19 Thread Philipp Dörfler
This is excellent news! You guys are full of surprise :)

~ Philipp

Am 19.11.2013 um 23:41 schrieb Kevin Rushforth kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com:

 I see Joe already responded with status (my e-mail crossed his).
 
 -- Kevin
 
 
 Kevin Rushforth wrote:
 Hi Philipp,
 
 There is a JIRA filed to track the open sourcing or SceneBuilder:
 
 https://javafx-jira.kenai.com/browse/RT-34175
 
 Someone from the SceneBuilder team can comment on the status of this.
 
 -- Kevin
 
 
 Philipp Dörfler wrote:
 Hello list,
 
 I can’t but acknowledge the work put into SceneBuilder especially when 
 seeing SceneBuilder 2 who apparently underwent a serious and well done 
 design overhaul (I still want to see a dark theme ;) ). Well done!
 
 As much as I love the new design the Early Access 2.0 version feels very 
 rough and makes clear that this tool needs a lot of love. I thought about 
 contributing to OpenJFX for quite some time but would actually rather spend 
 time on improving SceneBuilder than working on juicy API internals that are 
 better left to guys that truly know what they do ;) Things like better IDE 
 integration or making the keyframe based animation API accessible in the 
 GUI already (To at least partially get to where JavaFX 1 Designer once was 
 or wanted to be) come to my mind.
 
 As far as I know there are currently no plans of open sourcing Scene 
 Builder but I wondered if there’s even a chance for it and what would be 
 required for that to happen? Seeing that the JFX team probably has a very 
 tight schedule and spent a lot of time open sourcing the core components 
 already I’m afraid that a OSS SceneBuilder would be kind of impossible. Am 
 I too pessimistic?
 
 Cheers,
 ~ Philipp