Am Mo 23. Juni 2008 schrieb Werner Almesberger:
> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> > Yep, you got it. That's what I say with "when we don't obey the specs...".
>
> But which spec would we be violating ? If there's nothing connected,
> nothing happens anyway. If there is a USB upstream device or the
> a
Andy Green wrote:
> Well I'm just off to bed so I guess I have to study the datasheet vs the
> code tomorrow, but can't it be that the problems come from usbdevstat =
> 11? It's that which kills USB -> SYS specifically which maybe is not
> what chgena = 0 does.
Setting MBCC7.usbdevstat to binary
Sean McNeil wrote:
> I think you have this well understood. It does exactly as you predicted
> and will not power up for me with USB if I follow your procedure.
Yeah, finally one thing that works as expected !
Now I wonder why you and Andy seem to have no trouble at all getting
the GTA02 to run
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> Yep, you got it. That's what I say with "when we don't obey the specs...".
But which spec would we be violating ? If there's nothing connected,
nothing happens anyway. If there is a USB upstream device or the
adapter, we're allowed to draw 100mA without the need for furt
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> NO, it *should NOT* be turned off. Maybe I got it wrong, and you say "we
> accidentally turned it off by then".
What I meant is: under these circumstances, what the system currently
does it to turn the charger off, which then explains the rest of the
(undesirable) behav
Am Fr 20. Juni 2008 schrieb Werner Almesberger:
> If you drained your battery while running Linux, you probably didn't
> have USB connected at that time. This in turn means that the internal
> charger logic in the PMU should be turned off.
NO, it *should NOT* be turned off. Maybe I got it wrong,
Am So 22. Juni 2008 schrieb Werner Almesberger:
> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> > But we could make possible to boot from wallcharger if we don't give a
> > s**t
> > on the usb-specs.
>
> By the time you've figured out that you have a charger, you have enough
> running that you might as well boot
Am So 22. Juni 2008 schrieb Andy Green:
> Somebody in the thread at some point said:
> | Am So 22. Juni 2008 schrieb Werner Almesberger:
> |> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> |>> I think battery charging *never* may be turned off.
> |> That's my understanding so far as well. What bothers me is that I c
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
|> ~ Or all of this only happens if we disable charging from the previous
|> session?
|
| If we disable charging, then - according to my understanding of the
| documentation - we're certainly doomed, since t
Andy Green wrote:
> You're saying that you don't think we can ever bring the CPU up at all
> if you have a battery in there that is < 2.5V?
I'm not sure. My understanding of the PCF50633 manual says that, if we
enable the charger, we should be fine. My experimental results don't
quite agree with t
Andy Green wrote:
> Instead what we're left with is trying to find
> a way through the maze of default fixed behaviours of the PMU and trying
> to match them with what we need.
That describes the experience quite accurately ;-)
> On the charging settings for the battery, it seems to use a constan
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> to guarantee there never will be set a too high max voltage (would kill
> battery)
The battery's internal protection circuit should prevent the worst from
happening here, as long as you don't go over 12V. (Applies to both GTA01
and GTA02.)
> different topic:
> Booting f
Werner Almesberger wrote:
steve wrote:
Maybe I did get a flakely phone.
It's not so easy :-) The PMU state depends on what the PMU did the
last time you had full power.
Many internal settings only return to defaults in the so-called
NoPower state, which means that all power sources
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Andy Green wrote:
|> This will also solve the "no charging when PMU left on its own if
|> charger off was the last order" issue as a side effect.
|
| That's one of the things I'm not convinced about. If the
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Am So 22. Juni 2008 schrieb Werner Almesberger:
|> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
|>> I think battery charging *never* may be turned off.
|> That's my understanding so far as well. What bothers me is that I can'
Andy Green wrote:
> This will also solve the "no charging when PMU left on its own if
> charger off was the last order" issue as a side effect.
That's one of the things I'm not convinced about. If the PMU manual is
to be believed, there's no active current path to the battery or Vsys
in that state
Am So 22. Juni 2008 schrieb Werner Almesberger:
> Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> > I think battery charging *never* may be turned off.
>
> That's my understanding so far as well. What bothers me is that I can't
> the device to show the symptoms I would expect in the various states,
> both good and ba
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> I think battery charging *never* may be turned off.
That's my understanding so far as well. What bothers me is that I can't
the device to show the symptoms I would expect in the various states,
both good and bad symptoms.
- Werner
Am Do 19. Juni 2008 schrieb Werner Almesberger:
> Sean McNeil wrote:
> > You do not need a battery to run the phone. It will run off USB power.
>
> Some do, some don't. E.g., I never got any GTA02 (out of 1-2 samples)
> to run from USB power for more than a few seconds.
>
> Regarding charging, t
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| On Thursday 19 June 2008 12:48:45 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
|> Am Donnerstag 19 Juni 2008 09:54:09 schrieb Andy Green:
|>> Besides, I can't use
|>> our wonderful flawless Openmoko build+packaging system
Ah,
problem is getting a good battery. Local stores don't carry battery
chargers.
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From: Joerg Reisenweber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 10:52 AM
To: openmoko-kernel@lists.openmoko.org
Cc: steve; 'Sean McNeil'
Subject: Re: My Gta02s wont char
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Am Do 19. Juni 2008 schrieb Werner Almesberger:
|> Sean McNeil wrote:
|>> You do not need a battery to run the phone. It will run off USB power.
|> Some do, some don't. E.g., I never got any GTA02 (out of
A sure fix should be: insert "good" battery, attach wall-charger, boot all the
way to system, replace "good" by drained battery *without* switching off or
suspending system.
/j
Am So 22. Juni 2008 schrieb steve:
> Haha the vulcan mind meld. I will try it
>
>
> -Original Message-
> Fr
Am Sonntag 22 Juni 2008 16:13:59 schrieb Holger Freyther:
> On Thursday 19 June 2008 12:48:45 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag 19 Juni 2008 09:54:09 schrieb Andy Green:
> > > Besides, I can't use
> > > our wonderful flawless Openmoko build+packaging system to work on tslib
> > > beca
Haha the vulcan mind meld. I will try it
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From: Sean McNeil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 11:17 AM
To: steve
Cc: 'Werner Almesberger'; openmoko-kernel@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: My Gta02s wont charge
Yes, I can run off usb without the a ba
On Thursday 19 June 2008 12:48:45 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 19 Juni 2008 09:54:09 schrieb Andy Green:
> > Besides, I can't use
> > our wonderful flawless Openmoko build+packaging system to work on tslib
> > because it can't cope with exotic hosts like Fedora 9.
>
> Still? What's
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Hi folks -
After changing my SIM and I am able to dial out using DM2 GSM test OK.
I decided to repeatedly suspend during this test to see if I can provoke
the resume stall problem.
I was able to get a GSM-provoked resume about a dozen times, but I c
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Somebody in the thread at some point said:
|
| | Is anyone tracking the moko changes with 2.6.25?
|
| Yeah every couple of weeks I update andy-tracking branch in git,
| currently it's against 2.6.26-rc5
|
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