Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5 Release Candidate 1Prospects

2009-04-15 Thread Chris Hart
Very happy in tests yesterday with 9137 - 25 avatars on a sim for over an hour, no crashes. OSGrid office hours had Wright Plaza on 9136 and was also very stable, so I think around that point is a sweet spot... From: opensim-dev-boun...@lists.berlios.de

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-15 Thread Stefan Andersson
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Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5 Release Candidate 1Prospects

2009-04-15 Thread Ralf Haifisch
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Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-15 Thread Melanie
I believe that, for technical purposes, a grid should indeed be seen as a trust domain. That was what the protocol was designed for and bending it to anything else would be very painful and not entirely successful, feature-wise. The Linden-designed protocol elements are best suited to that

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-15 Thread Melanie
That member was actually introduced for the load balancer only, and is not supposed to be accessed by anything else. But, it's a case in point where a specialized application would not be possible if only an interface were passed. Melanie Stefan Andersson wrote:

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-15 Thread Stefan Andersson
... unless it was exposed in that interface, or the functionality was available in some other way. Best regards, Stefan Andersson Tribal Media AB Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:12:57 +0200 From: mela...@t-data.com To: opensim-dev@lists.berlios.de Subject: Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene

Re: [Opensim-dev] Request for feedback: 0.6.5 Release Candidate 1Prospects

2009-04-15 Thread Melanie
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Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-15 Thread Melanie
I'm happy to see others are sharing my vision. :) That is just what i think needs to happen: Users becoming independent entities who use a inventory and asset space provider of their choice, even self-hosted if they have the bandwidth. Regions service local assets themselves, so there is no

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-15 Thread Kyle
I love this idea Melanie even to the degree I have been thinking you could store small Access/SQLite DB's in places like your Live account etc, anywhere that stores small files you can access through an API/Web Services. Anything to associate an avatars assets independent of the grids DB but still

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-15 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Diva Canto wrote: As I zoom in on issues of trust and security, I'm getting to the point where I need a sharp definition of grid. What is a grid, besides being a map/lookup service and a user accounts service? a) nothing more than that b) a trust domain If we choose b) then we need to

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-15 Thread Charles Krinke
OSGrid exists with two goals. 1. Test OpenSim SVN on a regular basis and report results to aid in software development. 2. Nurture a community. We need to start by considering that OpenSim splits the asset storage between regions and the OpenSim assetServer. So, the OpenSim asset model is a

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-15 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Sean Dague wrote: Melanie wrote: Hi, as a mid to long range goal, +1, actually. but in the short run, the ability to load and unload regions is blocked by the existing module API, and to fix this basic piece of functionality, they need to be migrated to the new API, asap. If this is

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-15 Thread Melanie
Looks like you didn't read my post. I said, as a mid to long range goal, yes. I didn't say we should never have it. I said it would block critical fixes if it were forced onto the new region module interface now. I'm not bullying anyone. You have not yet had the pleasure of seeing me bully

[Opensim-dev] Springs, Torques, joints , friction, questions and Vehicles oh my

2009-04-15 Thread Teravus Ovares
Greetings all I was hoping to get some robot physics simulation people's ideas here. Looking at the LSL Vehicle API, it seems clear that there is at least an angular motor and a linear motor involved. There may be two angular motors, one for the angular movement and one for the vertical

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-15 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Charles Krinke wrote: OSGrid exists with two goals. 1. Test OpenSim SVN on a regular basis and report results to aid in software development. 2. Nurture a community. We need to start by considering that OpenSim splits the asset storage between regions and the OpenSim assetServer. So,

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-15 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Melanie wrote: Looks like you didn't read my post. I said, as a mid to long range goal, yes. I didn't say we should never have it. I said it would block critical fixes if it were forced onto the new region module interface now. In your earlier posts you vehemently decried any notion of

Re: [Opensim-dev] Springs, Torques, joints , friction, questions and Vehicles oh my

2009-04-15 Thread Charles Krinke
Jeff Heaton at Heaton Research wrote a book on LSL scripting. All his scripts are available at his Heaton Research parcel on SecondLife and in the books, which are on Amazon.com. There are a couple of chapters devoted to vehicles and angular motors in making a script for a car, boat airplane.

Re: [Opensim-dev] Supplying IScene instead of Scene for the future region modules mechanism

2009-04-15 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Melanie wrote: The important turning point of the discussion was when the talk turned to splitting things out of Scene. I'm still dead set against hiding Scene as it is today behind an interface, because it would turn into just as unmaintainable a behemoth as IClientAPI is. However,

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-15 Thread Charles Krinke
Backing up a step. OpenSim does not allow a way to *stop* a region from attaching to a UGAIM, be it OSGrid, or any other OpenSim grid. There is nothing unique about OSGrid except its history. OSGrid runs the OpenSim software as it exists. No more, no less. I would think the first step would

Re: [Opensim-dev] The essence of grid

2009-04-15 Thread Diva Canto
No one but UCI administrators can attach sims to the UCI grid, because only they know the send/receive password. And as far as I know, only the admins of, say, K-Grid can attach sims to it. There's something very special about the way OSGrid uses OpenSim: it allows uncontrolled region logins