Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-30 Thread Sean Dague
Melanie wrote: I am absolutely sure that I would not went HG to ever, EVER, insert user records or profile records into my database. I strongly favor the URL approach, which is neutral as far as my database goes. Ok, so then hash those urls for UUIDs to present to the viewer? We still need

Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-30 Thread James Stallings II
There are some strong ideas here for the future, but I think that the original problem has been lost in the mix (or perhaps I missed something in the thread, not entirely out of the question ;) Unless I am mistaken, the real problem is older content imported from SL - how to preserve the creator

Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-30 Thread Melanie
Hi, that is a truly secondary concern to me. It is outright illegal to transfer items, creator information or not, unless the creator agrees and cooperates. In this rare case, the creator would register on the destination grid and then have a name and profile. A means of preserving SL creator

Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-30 Thread Diva Canto
The origin of this thread was OARs and IARs (for content porting between OpenSims), and foreign users (for the HG). I don't think there was ever any intention of grabbing profiles from Second Life, although, as far as I know, those profiles are available on the web so it would be technically

Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-30 Thread James Stallings II
Perhaps So Mel, ButWhere is the similar licensing or release from obligation under license for the OS grid content? It seems to me there's a double standard in the offing here, whereby content from the Linden Grid is hands-off for legal reasons, but not so much as a tip of the hat in that

Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-30 Thread James Stallings II
I'll consider that 'point taken' and agree to agree with the legal edge-case represented by LL, though I would point out that such whholesale exporting of content is already well underway. Thanks for taking the time to consider my views ;) Cheers James On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Melanie

Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-30 Thread Teravus Ovares
The latter needs to be avoided for reasons of liability. actually, .. no. That isn't entirely true. That statement should be rephrased, The latter needs to be avoided for reasons of public relations.. Our license protects us from what individuals do with the software.. however, we are not

Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-30 Thread Melvin Carvalho
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Stefan Andersson ste...@tribalmedia.se wrote: Actually, we need both. It's perfectly valid to index and address users by guid in the known internal scope - but conversely, invalid to refer by guid in a cross-scope case. Also, the guid contains no 'resource

Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-27 Thread Stefan Andersson
Justin, whilst you're at it, could you have a look at the feasabilty of just adding the url to the user profile on the user service on the originating grid? We should try to move from guid/local to url/global in everything we do, even if in babysteps. If we could let the user server

Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-27 Thread Sean Dague
Justin Clark-Casey wrote: (3) Separate the current 'users' table into 'userprofiles' and 'users' tables. =20 'userprofiles' will largely contain all the metadata about a user that = you can see in the profile on the Linden Labs=20 Second Life client today (name, about, interests, 1st life,

Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-27 Thread Melanie
An asset URI might just be http://asset_server/assets/asset_uuid So, local lookups can be UUID in the DB table. It's remote references that need to be augmented, since a UUID doesn't contain the information on where to fetch it from. Melanie Chris Hart wrote: Maybe I'm being dumb, but why

[Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-26 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
Hello, For Inventory Archives I plan to preserve item creator information. When the archive is loaded I would like to recreate these profiles where possible/necessary (grid operators can choose not to allow this and that will be the default, I expect). However, unless an item creator has an

Re: [Opensim-dev] RFC: Ways of creating profiles for creators who will never log in

2009-03-26 Thread John Sheridan
I agree Brianna. In the meantime though, I wonder if it would be possible to section waterways off as different plots with build / script enabled along with an autoreturn? Although I'm not quite sure if autoreturn works yet, as in our sandbox we've already had large heaps of space junk lay