Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models (was Re: The essence of grid)

2009-04-17 Thread Justin Clark-Casey
This in itself is a flawed assumption. While OpenSim is certainly not intended to be an SL clone, there has been *no* statement from core that Hypergrid is the one true way forward for the future - as far as I'm concerned it still has the status of an experimental architecture. Some people

Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models (was Re: The essence of grid)

2009-04-17 Thread Mike Dickson
And you're being argumentative just to do it. Look, OpenSim at least initially was all about the LL grid. Without a client to access the simulator all the shiny server bits aren't terribly useful. And there have been a number of starts at other clients. For the most part however people who

Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models (was Re: The essence of grid)

2009-04-17 Thread Diva Canto
These concerns are valid but technically unfounded. There is absolutely no plans to remove what's already in OpenSim. There is simply the plan to add more and generalize what's already in there. Whenever possible, generalization is desirable; whenever the possibilities diverge, we add more

Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models (was Re: The essence of grid)

2009-04-17 Thread James Stallings II
Uh-Oh Diva, Looks like your thread has been severely hijacked ;) I think that what has occurred here is that passions have come to a boil, little misunderstandings have become inflamed into causes of the moment, and the initial goal of the thread has been lost in the chaos. If I may try to steer

Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models (was Re: The essence of grid)

2009-04-17 Thread Daniel Smith
Greetings from an OpenSim user and web/lsl developer, My interest is for OpenSim to be seen in the virtual world space as Apache is to the web. As a longtime observer of Linux and Apache (started working with web in 1993), I would say: above all, get critical mass going for OpenSim. Be careful

Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models (was Re: The essence of grid)

2009-04-17 Thread Dahlia Trimble
Personally I prefer OpenSim in standalone mode, and my preference is for it to be a personal simulation server allowing multiple dissimilar clients to attach and share a simulation; one which may deviate quite a but from the normal SL experience. I realize I'm in a minority with this position

Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models (was Re: The essence of grid)

2009-04-17 Thread Ideia Boa
If we want to watch the birth of a so-called Web 3D, welcome Diva and welcome Hypergrid. If we want to have a clone of SL, but with the option of different grids, welcome all development aid, including Hypergrid, as this is also a dream of LL. But if we only want to have a bad clone of the SL

Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models (was Re: The essence of grid)

2009-04-17 Thread Charles Krinke
Well... I rather suspect we are all headed for the same place, but, ... we seem to be having some semantic 'challenges' lately. I *know* that all the hearts are in the right place on this list and that all we have to do is be understanding and supportive of each other. The thing that has

Re: [Opensim-dev] Development models (was Re: The essence of grid)

2009-04-17 Thread Ideia Boa
I apologize to all community-dev members because I do not be politically correct, but what I wrote in my previous post is exactly what I feel. Ideia Boa Charles Krinke wrote: Well... I rather suspect we are all headed for the same place, but, ... we seem to be having some semantic