Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-20 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Tuesday 20 March 2007 02:07, Alan DuBoff wrote: On Monday 19 March 2007 07:37 pm, Stefan Teleman wrote: http://www.php-security.org/ This is scary...I think I'll go get a cold shower...;-) I have to wonder, much of the online forum software is written in PHP, and as such seems to be

[osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-20 Thread Jonathan Wheeler
Hi folks, Thanks for all the feedback on this. I have to confess, the more complex replies are a little above my understanding, so in the interests of concluding this thread clearly - what is the verdict? I think we've had 3 responses agreeing that it's probably a good thing, if for no other

[osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-20 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I'm happy to submit this to b.o.o (I still giggle at that acronym!), if it's of value to everyone. I know that it would help me out, but I'm big enough to realise that point doesn't really count for much ;) If it would help you out, it might help others out, provided it's done consistently

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal to include dirfd(3C) into OpenSolaris

2007-03-20 Thread Casper . Dik
Note that POSIX requires that if opendir() is based on file descriptors (doesn't necessarily have to be), the file descriptor would be closed on exec. Perhaps someone needs to get clarification whether the intent will be for the added dirfd() to also do that; if so, a simple implementation would

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Solaris version of Flash Player 9

2007-03-20 Thread Shawn Walker
On 18/03/07, W. Wayne Liauh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is a beta of Flash Player 9 for Solaris at Adobe Labs http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/ I have been able to install flashplayer9 into Builds 55b/56 (I am waiting for Build 62)) and 10u3. This is a very painless

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-20 Thread Octave Orgeron
Hi, Perl and PHP are often targeted on the internet. It's sad and unfortunate, but it's the reality of things. When I use to work for a web hosting company, we'd constantly have to deal with crackers and script kiddies hijacking customer websites. In many cases, poorly written perl or php code

[osol-discuss] Re: ZFS with raidz

2007-03-20 Thread Kory Wheatley
The reason for this question is we currently have our disk setup in a hardware raid5 on a EMC device and these disks are configured as a zfs file system. Would it benefit us to have the disk be setup as a raidz along with the hardware raid 5 that is already setup too? Or with this double raid

[osol-discuss] Re: ZFS with raidz

2007-03-20 Thread UNIX admin
The reason for this question is we currently have our disk setup in a hardware raid5 on a EMC device and these disks are configured as a zfs file system. Would it benefit us to have the disk be setup as a raidz along with the hardware raid 5 that is already setup too? Or with this double

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Solaris version of Flash Player 9

2007-03-20 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
Seems to work great for me Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ Same here, except I still couldn't watch the video on Fox News (Yeah, yeah, I know I know, being a life-long you-know-what--GW I used to lick stamps together

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: ZFS with raidz

2007-03-20 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello UNIX, Tuesday, March 20, 2007, 5:03:36 PM, you wrote: The reason for this question is we currently have our disk setup in a hardware raid5 on a EMC device and these disks are configured as a zfs file system. Would it benefit us to have the disk be setup as a raidz along with the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-20 Thread Matt Ingenthron
Stefan Teleman wrote: (snip...) I believe we should also Purify PHP. The problem is that Purify probably won't work on Nevada, but we could build PHP on a release of S10 they support, and it will still catch buffer overflows, ABR/ABW, UMR, stack corruption, double deletion, etc. We could

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-20 Thread Octave Orgeron
Hi, I support the idea of adding reduced privs to this stack to help customers reduce the security issues that these tools expose by nature. It's these kind of value adds that will differentiate our web stack. Another aspect would be management. It would be nice to a tool to manage a data center

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-20 Thread Darren J Moffat
Matt Ingenthron wrote: It may also be interesting to see what, if anything, can be done about reducing privilege sets for this OpenSolaris Apache/PHP stack to at least reduce the possibility of nefarious activities if (when?) there is a vulnerability. My colleague Alec Muffet may be able to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-20 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Stefan Teleman wrote: I believe we should also Purify PHP. The problem is that Purify probably won't work on Nevada, but we could build PHP on a release of S10 they support, and it will still catch buffer overflows, ABR/ABW, UMR, stack corruption, double deletion, etc. Sun Studio's dbx

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tuesday 20 March 2007 06:16 am, Octave Orgeron wrote: Perl and PHP are often targeted on the internet. It's sad and unfortunate, but it's the reality of things. When I use to work for a web hosting company, we'd constantly have to deal with crackers and script kiddies hijacking customer

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tuesday 20 March 2007 09:45 am, Matt Ingenthron wrote: It may also be interesting to see what, if anything, can be done about reducing privilege sets for this OpenSolaris Apache/PHP stack to at least reduce the possibility of nefarious activities if (when?) there is a vulnerability. My

[osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-20 Thread Eric Boutilier
The sfwnv-discuss list might be a better venue for this discussion. Some of the people subscribed there might not be subscribed here. Eric ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-20 Thread Matt Ingenthron
Alan DuBoff wrote: I'll watch to see what Alec might have to say, but in general this is going to be one very high maintenance package, any way we look at it. We do need the software, it just has a lot of strings attached from any perspective we look at it, unless the software is just left

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal: Next Generation Web Stack

2007-03-20 Thread Stefan Teleman
On 3/20/07, Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you say, So I think we'll be upgrading and patching(once 11 comes out) the web stack on a regular basis., so you mean the community will need to keep upgrading the package(s)? I'm not sure who we'll refers to. In this particular case we

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Solaris version of Flash Player 9

2007-03-20 Thread Andrew Pattison
alanc revealed: Sun's deal for Flash was with Macromedia, before the Adobe merger, so I don't think it can be read as any sign of change from the Adobe side. Ah, didn't realise that. I'm guessing a large wad of cash changed hands. Here's me thinking they realised Solaris was *the*

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: ZFS with raidz

2007-03-20 Thread UNIX admin
That's too strong especially when talking about raidz vs HW raid-5. Depending on workload raidz can give you much worse performance (or better). Additionally current hot spare support in ZFS is far from perfect. Probably the best thing to do in OP's case is to run some tests and get some

[osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-20 Thread Nicolas Linkert
That's really good news. The next big bang may be: Jörg Schilling is joining Debian. Everything seems possible ;) This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] joining Sun

2007-03-20 Thread David Lloyd
Alan, I don't think you really care about .deb packages either, what I *think* you're saying is give me a packaging system that works like apt does!, if I understand you correctly. I'm in agreement with you, if that is what you meant, and packaging is being looked at inside (Open)Solaris

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Tuesday 20 March 2007 02:59 pm, Nicolas Linkert wrote: That's really good news. The next big bang may be: Jörg Schilling is joining Debian. Everything seems possible ;) Ah, now it's all making sense...I did note he had some good things to say about Debian in his OGB podcast, maybe Joerg

[osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-20 Thread Jason Ozolins
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, David Lloyd wrote: Indeed, apt-get for Solaris would be quite useful :P Blastwave.org is thataway - Sad to say, but upgrading services (ldap, web, etc) running from Blastwave packages caused us a bunch of grief. We went back to building our own. Doing a

RE: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [osol-discuss] Re: [osol-announce] Intel Project going live]

2007-03-20 Thread Stewart, David C
All - as discussed, we have enabled anonymous pull on the project, and we're definitely open to community contributions to the project. I put some ideas on the project home page under Development Opportunities of things which would be useful, such as power management, drivers, library and kernel

[osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-20 Thread P SRINIVASA RAO
hello Ian its very nice, to see u here, I am also new to solaris, now I am assured to get a stable version of solaris, under your supervision. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

[osol-discuss] Solaris 10: NFS mount issue

2007-03-20 Thread steeles
Hi, I have weird situation. Sun server A can't mount windows server B share, but it can mount other Sun server shares. The thing is other servers can mount B's share very well, another word, server A just can't mount any share from Windows server B. Only reboot can solve this problem. it

[osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-20 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
hello Ian its very nice, to see u here, I am also new to solaris, now I am assured to get a stable version of solaris, under your supervision. The arrival of a respected figure is one thing, but I think that (allowing for the odd glitch nothing so complicated is ever totally free of),

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: joining Sun

2007-03-20 Thread Artem Kachitchkine
Alan DuBoff wrote: On Tuesday 20 March 2007 02:59 pm, Nicolas Linkert wrote: That's really good news. The next big bang may be: Jörg Schilling is joining Debian. Everything seems possible ;) Ah, now it's all making sense...I did note he had some good things to say about Debian in his OGB

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: joining Sun

2007-03-20 Thread Dev Mazumdar
Now, y'all boys realize what this leads to. Simon joining MSFT. Don't make me say it! Wait, I just said it... Owh. -Artem. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org OMG it totally makes sense now! This

RE: [osol-discuss] What is OpenSolaris success?

2007-03-20 Thread James Mansion
(Apologies for the delay.) If the amateur masses with a small number of ineffecitvely managed full time engineers can produce a product that has been able to threaten a well engineered product such as Solaris, how would you propose responding to that? Hmm - what innovation? Actually delivering