[osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread UNIX admin
Since Gentoo is compile based, the USE flags generally are directly transfered to configure options. For example, if you wanted to install MySQL with '--with-big-tables' you can simply specify the USE='big-tables' USE flag and everything's taken care of for you. I can't imagine how

[osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread UNIX admin
Sun studio just has to be as available so that software developers will hopefully stop using gcc/gnu ld specific stuff and an easy to update open solaris distribution (nexenta looking pretty much there...) being installed everywhere will hopefully draw the attention of those software

[osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread UNIX admin
Yes, well, a network enabled dist upgrade or package upgrade are the two things I would be looking for. Unless there are tools to help maintain hundreds of servers which are divided into different groups available... Yes there are. Commercial tools. And they cost a lot of money. Some

[osol-discuss] installation solaris 10 in SATA HDD, with new configuration

2007-04-17 Thread kumar
hi friends... this is vasanth, i installed sol 10. installation u have to fallow somany instructions. Especially in SATA HDD, if u have any doubt, contact me with my ID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pn:9395389252 This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, well, a network enabled dist upgrade or package upgrade are the two things I would be looking for. Unless there are tools to help maintain hundreds of servers which are divided into different groups available... Yes there are.

[osol-discuss] Re: vncviewer snv60 x86

2007-04-17 Thread Marcin Woźniak
truss -f -t stat,open /opt/sfw/bin/vncviewer 825:xstat(2, /opt/sfw/bin/vncviewer, 0x08047A48) = 0 825:open(/var/ld/ld.config, O_RDONLY) = 3 825:xstat(2, /opt/sfw/lib/libSM.so.6, 0x08047218) Err#2 ENOENT 825:xstat(2, /usr/lib/libSM.so.6, 0x08047218) = 0 825:

[osol-discuss] Re: vncviewer snv60 x86

2007-04-17 Thread Marcin Woźniak
i tried with crle to update lib. crle -c /var/ld/ld.config -l /lib:/usr/lib:/usr/sfw/lib:/opt/sfw/lib:/opt/csw/lib did't help This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] hg-build-snapshots

2007-04-17 Thread Manoj Joseph
Hi, I was following the instructions on the following page to get a onnv snapshot. http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/hg-build-snapshots/ But I am unable to checkout tag onnv_41. -bash-3.00$ hg clone -r onnv_41 ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/hg/onnv/onnv-gate abort: clone -r not supported yet

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread a b
Funny, I got the similar results for my mail servers with anaconda kickstart, pxe, dhcp, tftp and grub save for certain stuff in /etc. They all run the same distro base, run the same software packages and scriipts and don't require someone baby sitting them during installation or upgrade.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Thomas Rampelberg
Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: PXE, Anaconda and JumpStart are just parts and pieces of the puzzle. My point is, in an environment like that, one would *never* run `apt-get` or `yum update`. That would be ad-hoc. It would take all the stability and reliability out of that environment. I'm

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread a b
Pretty much. Install, copy configs over, reboot. Viola. Minus the thousands of servers claim. And of course no Oracle. Exactly. As soon as you have to copy config over, you're in ad-hoc land. That works for maybe up to 100 servers with three full-time people, but simply shatters for huge

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE Build 62 delayed

2007-04-17 Thread Derek Cicero
Derek Cicero wrote: FYI - SXCE Build 62 has some issues that they need to respin for. The build will probably be released Friday morning. I am now being told this won't be released until 4/20. I am not sure of the exact reasons. I will look into it further. Derek Derek -- Derek Cicero

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Funny, I got the similar results for my mail servers with anaconda kickstart, pxe, dhcp, tftp and grub save for certain stuff in /etc. They all run the same distro base, run the same software packages and scriipts and don't require someone baby sitting

[osol-discuss] Re: limit number of sftp/scp sessions

2007-04-17 Thread Ben
We currently use ssh in our system and are investigating ways to fulfill an Application STIG requirement. Here's the req APP0530:Session limits do not exist for the application. Its actually a checklist item to determine if you have a security finding. That's why it looks like a

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Thomas Rampelberg
a b wrote: 1. Documentation is a major pain in the ass to find. Outside of man pages and the occasional Sun engineer blog entry, there seems to be no decent documentation. In fact, most people admit that the Solaris 10 books that are currently out, are simply Solaris 9 books with a new cover.

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Michelle Olson
a b wrote: 1. Documentation is a major pain in the ass to find. Outside of man pages and the occasional Sun engineer blog entry, there seems to be no decent documentation. In fact, most people admit that the Solaris 10 books that are currently out, are simply Solaris 9 books with a

[osol-discuss] Re: MPxIO problem with metadb !!!

2007-04-17 Thread shay
is it ok to put the replics on the local disks? that the lun devices will not have metadb at all. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: MPxIO problem with metadb !!!

2007-04-17 Thread shay
what it the best way to upgrade from solaris 10 (update 3/05) to solaris 10 (update 11/06) ? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: MPxIO problem with metadb !!!

2007-04-17 Thread Shawn Walker
On 17/04/07, shay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what it the best way to upgrade from solaris 10 (update 3/05) to solaris 10 (update 11/06) ? liveupgrade, or boot from the CD and choose the upgrade option. -- Less is only more where more is no good. --Frank Lloyd Wright Shawn Walker, Software and

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- a b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pretty much. Install, copy configs over, reboot. Viola. Minus the thousands of servers claim. And of course no Oracle. Exactly. As soon as you have to copy config over, you're in ad-hoc land. That works for maybe up to 100 servers with three full-time

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Christopher Mahan
From: Michelle Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] We welcome all of your comments and feedback on documentation on the docs-discuss list for OpenSolaris, that is where documentation is at the forefront of discussion and minds. I post to that list the SX manuals that change each month, or you can watch

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
2. Ease of use Now, I know that most of you old school UNIX guys laugh at this, but usability is important. You've tuned me into a cool way to do something along the lines of USE flags in Solaris, but it sure sounds like it's not gonna be easy. Using Ubuntu for an example, the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- Thomas Rampelberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote: PXE, Anaconda and JumpStart are just parts and pieces of the puzzle. My point is, in an environment like that, one would *never* run `apt-get` or `yum update`. That would be ad-hoc. It would take all

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: MPxIO problem with metadb !!!

2007-04-17 Thread John Brewer
On 17/04/07, shay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what it the best way to upgrade from solaris 10 (update 3/05) to solaris 10 (update 11/06) ? liveupgrade, or boot from the CD and choose the upgrade option. -- Less is only more where more is no good. --Frank Lloyd Wright Shawn Walker,

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: MPxIO problem with metadb !!!

2007-04-17 Thread John Brewer
5. luupgrade -u -n second_disk -s /export/install/b60 -j /export/install/b60osprofile This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Michelle
Hiya Alan, Yes, of course, you can get PDF of each document on docs.sun.com, you just have to navigate to each book to get to the downloadable PDF option and it's painful slow (they say a HW upgrade is coming). But, I don't speak for Christopher, just my own experience, so maybe I wrongly assumed

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Michelle
Chung Hang Christopher Chan wrote On 04/17/07 05:41 PM,: --- Alan Coopersmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Mahan wrote: Recommendation: Do whatever you have to do to get the documentation in PDF as a download option. Thanks. Isn't it all available in PDF on

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Jerry Sutton
SXDE docs are there but the suggestion is that they are vintage 2/07 per one of the headings. Maybe they are up to date with the latest OpenSolaris drop, I don't know. One thing I find rather annoying about Sun documentation retrieval - maybe it's just my ignorance - is that the documents

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Christopher Mahan
From: Michelle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Will do! We're hotly working on a script to go through all the sources and create PDFs, so we can just serve them up in one tarball on OpenSolaris. Thanks for your time to reply, much appreciated. Please make them just downloadable as individual pdfs, right

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Shawn Walker
On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Ease of use Now, I know that most of you old school UNIX guys laugh at this, but usability is important. You've tuned me into a cool way to do something along the lines of USE flags in Solaris, but it sure sounds

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Shawn Walker
On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you. the concept of apt/yum repositories seems to be very alien here. No, it is not. You just have a hard time believing that we don't embrace it as the one true way of doing things. I think the point most people have been

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Shawn Walker
On 17/04/07, Christopher Mahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, a html-browsable (like http://docs.python.org/) would be fantastic. This lets google index them all for easy searching. (I don't search on local pc (ever)) Google indexes PDFs now, and I have gotten hit results from google

[osol-discuss] bugs.opensolaris.org loosing bugs again ?!

2007-04-17 Thread Roland Mainz
Hi! Is it possible that bugs.opensolaris.org is loosing bugs (again) ? I am missing two bug reports: 1. usr/src/cmd/perl/ build installs Subversion directories (.svn) in the proto area (note that this is not the exact title). That one was filed seveal days ago and since noone

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
They sure are. On my Ultra 5, Solaris 8 box, I could get the documentation online locally...will there be an option of tarballs of the documentation in html format? Yes, we already have that on OpenSolaris.org, http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/docs Download the docs

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
Sun Connection is very easy to use to manage updates and is all you're likely to need in a *production* environment. So I don't understand your compliant. Given that you have never indicated actual usage of it, I think it is unfair for you to be critical of it. Eh? When did I make a

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Chung Hang Christopher Chan
--- Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you. the concept of apt/yum repositories seems to be very alien here. No, it is not. You just have a hard time believing that we don't embrace it as the one true way of

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: was something else, now Packaging

2007-04-17 Thread Shawn Walker
On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/04/07, Chung Hang Christopher Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you. the concept of apt/yum repositories seems to be very alien here. No, it is not. You just have a hard

[osol-discuss] Unable to compile qt-copy on Solaris with Sun Studio 11

2007-04-17 Thread Manish Chakravarty
Hi All, I wanted to compile KDE4 for Solaris using SunStudio 11 I have used the default Sun tools Compiler = /usr/bin/cc make = /usr/ccs/bin/make I was trying to compile qt-copy with Sun Studio on Solaris Express 11 First i ran ran ./configure with the following options: ./configure -qt-gif

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: GVIM 7.0 with GTK: is a .pkg available? (not blastwave)

2007-04-17 Thread Manish Chakravarty
Hi All, I downloaded the tarball and it got built in SXDE with any modifications (using the bundled Sun Studio 11) It has pretty looking GTK fonts and icons. Now my question is: how do i make a .pkg out of it? (it is clear the vim7.0 has no extra dependencies. a base SXDE install is enough)