On 4-Nov-07, at 7:34 PM, Glynn Foster wrote:
Mario Goebbels wrote:
Perhaps the installer can allow a choice of GNU, BSD and SysV (or
de-jure UNIX
or hawever you want to characterise it).
I wrote this multiple times before in this discussion. This is the
easiest way to defuse that userland
2. There must be in future fully Gentoo installation philosophy allowing to
compile kernel sources and adjust it for computer on which you are doing
install.
With the Solaris kernel you can configure it a lot without recompiling. For
instance, you can choose between different schedulers during
By the way (and not directed just at you), speaking of Sun as a
decision-maker is unhelpful in my view. Sun is a legal fiction[1]
and plenty of people with divergent opinions in this community work
speak on its behalf. It is far better to name names when a decision
is concerned - they have
Orvar Korvar writes:
2. There must be in future fully Gentoo installation philosophy allowing to
compile kernel sources and adjust it for computer on which you are doing
install.
With the Solaris kernel you can configure it a lot without recompiling. For
instance, you can choose between
Is there any way that the current Build version number can be posted somewhere
on the main OpenSolaris page. Would be nice to not have to go through two
logins to see which build is most current.
Thanks
mike
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On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:34:08 +1300, Glynn Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Do you want to do a mock-up of what that might look like? I fear (and
this
is
purely an uninformed guess) that you're only going to alienate *more*
users than
you'll make happy.
This sounds like a solution looking
W. Wayne Liauh writes:
You people are accusing Whoever those person or persons may be of being a
dictator, but you don't have any problem being one when you are on the
driver's seat.
You people? At a guess, that's a reference to the OGB members. Or
perhaps the people opposed to exclusive
Thank you Alan, that was helpful.
Until the sysadmins make the fixed version of Firefox available, is there any
manual step one could take to reduce the ridiculously large Xvnc memory
footprint (other than the obvious heavy-handed approach of killing the
vncserver job and restarting it) ?
W. Wayne Liauh wrote:
You people are accusing Whoever those person or persons may be of being a
dictator, but you don't have any problem being one when you are on the
driver's seat.
Who is you? If you're talking to James - then well... um.. yeah. He is
an OGB member.
Have you ever
Shawn Walker wrote:
On 02/11/2007, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 07:56:14PM -0700, Ch?? Kristo wrote:
SXCE (and SXDE) are going to be Sun Solaris 11
eventually, or at least
their aim is to provide an unstable testing bed
for Solaris 11
Note: The
On 5 Nov 2007, at 15:15, Steven Stallion wrote:
Please correct me if I am wrong, but one of the primary goals of
the new
installer is simplicity. Why go to the trouble of selecting a
runtime in
the installation? I certainly would not want to instate a GNU
runtime for
*every* user
On 5-Nov-07, at 7:15 AM, Steven Stallion wrote:
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:34:08 +1300, Glynn Foster
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Do you want to do a mock-up of what that might look like? I fear (and
this
is
purely an uninformed guess) that you're only going to alienate *more*
users than
On 05/11/2007, John Sonnenschein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5-Nov-07, at 7:15 AM, Steven Stallion wrote:
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:34:08 +1300, Glynn Foster
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Do you want to do a mock-up of what that might look like? I fear (and
this
is
purely an uninformed
I'd like to add my perspective to this issue, as a relative outsider to the
development of OpenSolaris, but a person very interested in the success of
OpenSolaris as a whole, and a person who's closely followed many other open
source development communities.
The first thing I'd like to point
On 5-Nov-07, at 10:41 AM, Shawn Walker wrote:
On 05/11/2007, John Sonnenschein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5-Nov-07, at 7:15 AM, Steven Stallion wrote:
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:34:08 +1300, Glynn Foster
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Do you want to do a mock-up of what that might look like? I
John Sonnenschein writes:
Tell that to whoever violated ARC by putting /usr/gnu at the head of
$PATH in the indiana preview ;)
As has been repeatedly pointed out:
- Indiana hasn't had any ARC review.
- projects are on their own to determine when to submit for reviews
--
On 05/11/2007, John Sonnenschein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5-Nov-07, at 10:41 AM, Shawn Walker wrote:
On 05/11/2007, John Sonnenschein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 5-Nov-07, at 7:15 AM, Steven Stallion wrote:
On Mon, 05 Nov 2007 16:34:08 +1300, Glynn Foster
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Shawn Walker wrote:
Tell that to whoever violated ARC by putting /usr/gnu at the head of
$PATH in the indiana preview ;)
No violation of ARC occurred. ARC is not a required process until
consolidations are integrated, etc.
On the other extreme, it would be extremely stupid^H^H^H^H^H^H
On 05/11/2007, John Plocher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
Tell that to whoever violated ARC by putting /usr/gnu at the head of
$PATH in the indiana preview ;)
No violation of ARC occurred. ARC is not a required process until
consolidations are integrated, etc.
On the
John Plocher wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
Tell that to whoever violated ARC by putting /usr/gnu at the head of
$PATH in the indiana preview ;)
No violation of ARC occurred. ARC is not a required process until
consolidations are integrated, etc.
On the other extreme, it
hasn't been completed, but that they many of them haven't even been started!
There simply wasn't time. And, since this is a prototype we felt that
the way we did this was ok. In actuality though, some of Indiana has
been ARC'd. The installer pieces were ARC'd as part of Dwarf
Mike == Mike DeMarco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Mike I have a laptop and a desktop both running Build 75. Both have
Mike changed the time twice so that both systems Fell back by a total
Mike of two hours. Anyone else see this?
The Solaris kernel does all its timekeeping in UTC or GMT, so the
David Clack wrote:
Hi All,
As I mentioned at the OpenSolaris Developer conference, I've been
working with a couple of laptop ODMs to try and find a laptop for
OpenSolaris vs the other way round. Trying to get Solaris installed with
drivers missing.
Both ECS and ASUS have supplied me
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joerg Schilling) wrote:
Mike DeMarco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a laptop and a desktop both running Build 75. Both have changed the
time twice so that both systems Fell back by a total of two hours.
Anyone else see this?
Me too, although this happened a week
Hi Jim,
How about organic growth? Why must we go out and grab developers from
other communities. Early on we never discussed grabbing developers from
other communities. Virtually all of our planning discussions were
focused on organic growth and the business of opening our own stuff.
I
On 05/11/2007, Steven Stallion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The argument that modifying the PATH is too difficult for the average user
is nonsense. Any user who knows enough to know what runtime they prefer,
know precisely how to change their PATH to reflect that.
Hear, hear. Throwing this in
Calum Benson wrote:
GNOME's user-admin preferences window, IMHO. I suspect a sizable
number of users would have insufficient knowledge to make an informed
choice, or just no preference at all, when confronted with such a
choice during installation (I count myself among them!). And
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 10:24 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote:
Admittedly, I am somewhat fuzzy on what software is supposed to do if
it needs a specific version of a utility.
It should set PATH to reflect the environment it expects.
For example, if a configure script decides that it wants to and
Thanks Casper:
Both the Desktop and the Laptop are dual booting and now what you say makes
sense.
But now that I am back on the desktop the clock is reading 8:14 am when it is
6:14 pm EST. Don't know how that happened?
Mike DeMarco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a laptop and a desktop
On 11/5/07, Bill Sommerfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 10:24 -0600, Shawn Walker wrote:
Admittedly, I am somewhat fuzzy on what software is supposed to do if
it needs a specific version of a utility.
It should set PATH to reflect the environment it expects.
For
Girts Zeltins wrote:
As we know Indiana is future of Solaris, but there is lots of things about
which must continue discussions.
1. There is need to provide Solaris installation without graphical desktop.
The graphical desktops (KDE, XFce, GNOME, Window Maker, IceWM, FVWM, ...) must
be on
Hi,
Just the ECS 15.4 inch, it does not require any extra drivers like the
ASUS.
The ECS laptop should come in at less than $1000.
I just put compiz 6.2 on the both of them and it works fine.
Dave
On Mon, 2007-11-05 at 16:17 -0500, Dave Miner wrote:
David Clack wrote:
Hi All,
As I
Hi,
Just the ECS 15.4 inch, it does not require any extra drivers like the ASUS.
The ECS laptop should come in at less than $1000.
I just put compiz 6.2 on the both of them and it works fine.
Dave Clack
Since both the ECS and ASUS laptops are equipped with Intel's Core 2 duo chip,
would
There's been a steady trickle of posts from people
like yourself who
call themselves 'outsiders', and with all due
respect, every one of them
has missed the point entirely.
--
Alan Burlison
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My perception is that some old guards
This proposal is intended to provoke productive discussion,
surrounding our current governance structure, by highlighting some of
the deficiencies that currently exist. While not exhaustive, it
attempts to explain why the current governance structure is
insufficient for the success and growth of
Shawn.
You seem to be of the opinion that a strong leader is necessary to the
success of a project.
Might I point out that the governance structure of FreeBSD (the most
successful of the BSD's, and arguably the second most successful open-
source operating system project in the world ) is
On 05/11/2007, John Sonnenschein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Shawn.
You seem to be of the opinion that a strong leader is necessary to the
success of a project.
Might I point out that the governance structure of FreeBSD (the most
successful of the BSD's, and arguably the second most successful
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