W. Wayne Liauh writes: > You people are accusing "Whoever those person or persons may be" of being a > dictator, but you don't have any problem being one when "you" are on the > driver's seat.
"You people?" At a guess, that's a reference to the OGB members. Or perhaps the people opposed to exclusive use of the "OpenSolaris" term without community endorsement. Or perhaps to me in particular, as it seems that you were following up my message. I'm not sure what you're talking about here. However, I don't see the dictatorial behavior you're referring to. Since I'm clearly ignorant here, could you perhaps clue me in? > Have you ever consulted (or even thought about) the opinions of little people > like me and a bunch of others in a like situation who continue to be ignored, > mis-represented, and, worse, abused? If you approach the OGB with your specific concerns, I'm sure they can be discussed. I don't know what those concerns are, so it's a bit hard to answer your question. > I am very confident that the Solaris rejuvenation movement is much bigger > than a bunch of Solaris old farts who thought they represent the > "Community"--whatever that means. "Community" is defined in the constitution. I'm not sure what the rest of that statement actually means. I don't know if I'm old enough to qualify in your sweeping generalization, but if so, I can certainly say that I don't think I personally represent the community. That'd be rather presumptuous. > >From the very first day the news about Indiana came about, I always imagined > >that it would become a de jure OpenSolaris distro. In fact, if you have > >ever been in a position to try to pitch Solaris to businesses and government > >entities, you will probably come to the same conclusion. You can express > >your opinion, but you have to make it damn clear that it is your own > >opinion, plus perhaps a handful (five fingers) of others. It does not, at > >the very least, speak that of mine. Yes, I think such a reference distribution be a great thing to have. The dispute has *NEVER* been about having such a distribution. Nor have I seen anyone claim to be speaking on your behalf. I don't make such claims. Instead, the dispute is about the _unknown_ wider community's interest in the exclusive use of the name "OpenSolaris" for a distribution, the lack of any community endorsement of such a usage, and the subsequent complaints brought to the OGB. Many people have expressed a desire to see this usage be subject to a community-wide decision -- a vote -- rather than just appearing as a fait accompli on the web site. I happen to agree with those people. That doesn't mean I'm opposed to an OpenSolaris distribution. It doesn't mean I fail to see the good that Indiana is doing. It certainly doesn't mean that I'm attempting to speak on your behalf. That the proponents of the OpenSolaris reference distribution keep harping on something that has not actually been in dispute is one of the real disappointments in this case. (The other, of course, being that avoiding this whole mess would have been _trivially_ easy, and yet the unnamed decision makers chose the path of greatest resistance by avoiding a community-wide vote.) > I officially joined the OpenSolaris.org almost two and half years ago. I > would very much like to consider myself a member of the "community". But I > can't, because I really don't know what the "community" is. I am sure the > so-called "community" would be more credible if some of the Solaris gurus who > have often shown a propensity to control or at least affect the direction of > OpenSolaris could first try to make a concerted effort to help those > struggling/frustrating newcomers like myself. That way, you/they will have a > better chance to win our respect and thus support when there is a conflict > with Sun's management. I didn't know that answering your (or anyone's) technical questions was a condition for a term in governance. That comes as news to me. -- James Carlson, Solaris Networking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive 71.232W Vox +1 781 442 2084 MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757 42.496N Fax +1 781 442 1677 _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
