[osol-discuss] BE doesn't activate

2009-01-15 Thread Robert Sohigian
I've done a pkg image-update from snv_101b_rc2 to the latest dev release. I've gone through a couple of reboots (both init 6 and reboot), and the new BE doesn't activate. Here's the beadm list: # beadm list BEActive Mountpoint Space Policy Created ---- --

Re: [osol-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Casper . Dik
RBAC related: Since I'm using the /usr/xpg4/bin path as the primary one, I was little bit confused, that, event thought I have the Object Access Management profile applied on my account, I'm not able to use pfexec chown(1) command. Well, the reason is exactly

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net wrote: However, you'll see people calmly stating gnu tar is broken and other people (like me) saying it's the only tar I like to use, since all the others I've tried seem to be feature-deficient. Whatever the brokenness supposedly is, it hasn't bothered me.

Re: [osol-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread I. Szczesniak
I believe it is a mistake to concentrate on the GNU coreutils tools. Opensolaris would alienate users from OSX and BSD platforms with an API which roughly changes every six months. It'd be better if Opensolaris starts its own Solaris coreutils project than being at the GNU maintainers ''mercy''.

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread I. Szczesniak
Add 'GNU coreutils don't support EUC locales' to that list. The tools fail to decode paths with wide characters, breaking our products. Irek On 1/14/09, Nicolas Williams nicolas.willi...@sun.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:51:26AM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: The known bad

Re: [osol-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
I. Szczesniak iszczesn...@gmail.com wrote: I believe it is a mistake to concentrate on the GNU coreutils tools. Opensolaris would alienate users from OSX and BSD platforms with an API which roughly changes every six months. It'd be better if Opensolaris starts its own Solaris coreutils

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread I. Szczesniak
It would be better to go with the ATT AST tools (http://www.research.att.com/sw/download/). AST supports many of the BSD and GNU command line options missing in the native Solaris userland and conform to POSIX. Irek On 1/14/09, Ignacio Marambio Catán darkjo...@gmail.com wrote: How exactly? by

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Joerg Schilling wrote: This is what I ask for since a long time. Unfortunately, Sun does not seem to be interested in this as I already enhanced and fixed several utilities but there was no interest from Sun. You mean no interest in creating a Joerg-only contribution process since you

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Alan Coopersmith
To add bugs to the list, you simply have to file them in bugzilla on defect.opensolaris.org, and list 576 in the bugs blocked field. I don't know enough about this issue to write a good bug report, but it sounds like you do. -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersm...@sun.com

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan Coopersmith alan.coopersm...@sun.com wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: This is what I ask for since a long time. Unfortunately, Sun does not seem to be interested in this as I already enhanced and fixed several utilities but there was no interest from Sun. You mean no interest in

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread C. Bergström
Alan Coopersmith wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: This is what I ask for since a long time. Unfortunately, Sun does not seem to be interested in this as I already enhanced and fixed several utilities but there was no interest from Sun. You mean no interest in creating a Joerg-only

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:31:03PM +0100, I. Szczesniak wrote: I believe it is a mistake to concentrate on the GNU coreutils tools. Opensolaris would alienate users from OSX and BSD platforms with an API which roughly changes every six months. It'd be better if Opensolaris starts its own

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread I. Szczesniak
Here're my favs off the top of my head: Between Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 and RHEL 5 /bin/tail changed, breaking the JRE. Output of /bin/ls changed between RHEL 3 and 4, using tab as separator. Between RHEL 4 and 5 tab was removed again. Names and spelling of long options changes. The GNU

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Joerg Schilling
C. Bergström cbergst...@netsyncro.com wrote: Can we keep this positive and or just leave it at patches welcome.. Lets not have this thread suck up more time.. I am positive, as I am offering my work for free. The code even has been published - I am not holding things back. What we need it

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread john g4lt
Am I the only one seeing the complete irony of someone posting from a fraunhofer account talking about IP abuse? Google for fraunhofer mp3 patents for enlightenment On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Alan Coopersmith

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread David . Comay
It would be better to go with the ATT AST tools (http://www.research.att.com/sw/download/). AST supports many of the BSD and GNU command line options missing in the native Solaris userland and conform to POSIX. If those tools are truly compatible with the GNU variants and track feature

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Jason King
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 11:56 AM, david.co...@sun.com wrote: It would be better to go with the ATT AST tools (http://www.research.att.com/sw/download/). AST supports many of the BSD and GNU command line options missing in the native Solaris userland and conform to POSIX. If those tools are

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Octave Orgeron
One of the things that does kinda concern me here is that by just jumping on the GNU bandwagon and hoping for a smooth ride is a bit backward. I think most people who have worked on multiple OS's know that the GNU tools do have their issues and conflicts. Ultimately, if Sun wants to improve

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Thu, January 15, 2009 12:51, Octave Orgeron wrote: However, if the hope is that the GNU toolset will attract users and developers.. I think that idea maybe a little flawed. That's slightly off from what *I* am thinking (not speaking for anybody except myself here). My point is that the

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
On Thu, January 15, 2009 12:57, Jason King wrote: As I think has been mentioned before, I seriously doubt if you talk to most any UNIX user they are one bit about GNU grep vs Solaris grep vs BSD grep (or gnu tar vs solaris tar vs bsd tar vs star). What they care about is 'grep -r works'

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Scott Rotondo
Octave Orgeron wrote: One of the things that does kinda concern me here is that by just jumping on the GNU bandwagon and hoping for a smooth ride is a bit backward. I think most people who have worked on multiple OS's know that the GNU tools do have their issues and conflicts. Ultimately, if

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Brian Utterback
I did the google and I remain unenlightened. In fact, I would say it is quite understandable that someone from fraunhofer would be concerned, although I am not sure how much of Joerg attitude has to do with having a fraunhofer account. john g4lt wrote: Am I the only one seeing the complete

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Fredrich Maney
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:56 PM, david.co...@sun.com wrote: It would be better to go with the ATT AST tools (http://www.research.att.com/sw/download/). AST supports many of the BSD and GNU command line options missing in the native Solaris userland and conform to POSIX. If those tools are

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Fredrich Maney
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Octave Orgeron unixcons...@yahoo.com wrote: One of the things that does kinda concern me here is that by just jumping on the GNU bandwagon and hoping for a smooth ride is a bit backward. I think most people who have worked on multiple OS's know that the GNU

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Fredrich Maney
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 2:27 PM, David Dyer-Bennet d...@dd-b.net wrote: On Thu, January 15, 2009 12:51, Octave Orgeron wrote: However, if the hope is that the GNU toolset will attract users and developers.. I think that idea maybe a little flawed. That's slightly off from what *I* am

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Michael Schuster
Fredrich Maney wrote: I want Sun and the Solaris and OpenSolaris communities to realize that they have, bar none, the best OS on the planet You're preaching to the choir :-) it's the people who aren't in these communities that we want to convince, and - or so I understand - giving them

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Paul Gress
Michael Schuster wrote: Fredrich Maney wrote: I want Sun and the Solaris and OpenSolaris communities to realize that they have, bar none, the best OS on the planet You're preaching to the choir :-) it's the people who aren't in these communities that we want to convince, and -