Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-15 Thread Graham McArdle
One could also ask the other way round: Does Oracle still have enough good programmers to continue ZFS development the way they did before? apparently not, since they're still supposedly hiring more. Maybe they're thinking: gosh, it's hard to find programmers on the market with previous

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Graham McArdle
Erik, looks like you've already said everything I was thinking of posting and said it better. Oracle is being a blinkered dinosaur, trying to hark back to the good old days when the Unix mainframe was king. It's actually a risky business model, trying to focus entirely on rich investment banks

Re: [osol-discuss] Access to Sun Studio tools for building ON is broken

2010-08-04 Thread Graham McArdle
I was able to download the latest studio express version today with no problems. I doubt they're planning to close the program but maybe maintaining the download facility for a 'special' non-latest version for non-Solaris 10 is a different matter. Perhaps a real target for Illumos is to

Re: [osol-discuss] Dell and HP to Certify and Resell all Three Oracle Operating Systems on their x86 Server Computers

2010-07-31 Thread Graham McArdle
I dont see that Oracle is killing OpenSolaris I never said it was Hence, OpenSolaris code will not be killed. It is only FUD to say so. I didn't say so Ergo, OpenSolaris will not be killed. I didn't say it would Again, OpenSolaris will not be killed. Again, I didn't say it would --

Re: [osol-discuss] Dell and HP to Certify and Resell all Three Oracle Operating Systems on their x86 Server Computers

2010-07-29 Thread Graham McArdle
Oracle mentions OpenSolaris now: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/opens olaris/overview/index.html Not much of a mention - just says please go to OpenSolaris.com on every tab. Interesting to see that there is a community tab, which also points to opensolaris.COM -- This

Re: [osol-discuss] I hope we also get a welcome mat at openworld.

2010-07-21 Thread Graham McArdle
interesting...I guess Oracle is still in the process integrating SUN. er at WEBMINK blog, I found a link that leads to an Oracle site title Oracle's Support for Open Source and Open Standards and has OpenSolaris as one of their KEY OPEN SOURCE INITIATIVES. along with

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10 set

2010-07-10 Thread Graham McArdle
Support for Solaris is costly because only small number of people can fix it, and make it available to others. OpenSolaris support just gives more bang for a buck on every front. Open VS Closed; Free(dom) VS Proprietary; Independent and associated VS Dependent on one company; Active and

Re: [osol-discuss] The nearest thing to (forthcoming) news

2010-07-09 Thread Graham McArdle
The advertised speaker was Greg Lavender, but since he's left for Cisco I guess they'll have to think again. Maybe they'll just have an empty, silent stage and let the audience draw their own conclusions... OK OK I'll leave the dead horse alone now. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] The nearest thing to (forthcoming) news

2010-07-08 Thread Graham McArdle
I had a look at the sessions announced for Oracle Open World and got a bit annoyed at the prominent announcement of Oracle Linux Roadmap: A Penguin Prospective (S316881). Hmm, seems like Oracle doesn't fell the same need for secrecy about what's in store for OEL. But, to be fair, I did find

Re: [osol-discuss] The nearest thing to (forthcoming) news

2010-07-08 Thread Graham McArdle
also this one: What's New and Cool, and the Platform to Take You There (S317591) Most notably, after describing Oracle Solaris as the platform to take you there, the abstract ends with: The session will close with an introduction to the new Image Packaging System (IPS) and tips for building and

Re: [osol-discuss] The nearest thing to (forthcoming) news

2010-07-08 Thread Graham McArdle
D'oh! I didn't notice the session listing was in multiple pages, and of course it's after page 1 where the main event is lurking: Oracle Solaris 10 and Beyond: Lead Engineers Panel (S317641) Abstract: This session, hosted by the head of Oracle Solaris development and featuring a panel of core

Re: [osol-discuss] The Possibilities

2010-07-06 Thread Graham McArdle
One of the selling points of Solaris was that the same kernel runs on everything from a laptop to a mainframe Not sure I get you there. (a) how is that different from anything else there are many discussion threads and blogs about how even linux has to be customised and tuned to run

Re: [osol-discuss] The Possibilities

2010-07-05 Thread Graham McArdle
I'm increasingly getting the feeling that the delay is because Oracle is working to re-brand OpenSolaris the binary distro as Solaris 11. They are committed to Solaris and they are apparently committed to contributing to the OpenSolaris code base (and indeed you can see business as usual in

Re: [osol-discuss] Register: Solaris, OpenSolaris, and the Oracle wall of secrecy

2010-06-30 Thread Graham McArdle
So with that said, our next release for OpenSolaris will be when the next stable version of OpenSolaris is released, and the way it looks that will be a long time from now. Probably in November known as 2010.11 based on ?? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] whoo whoo - Oracle's net jumps 25 pct in first full Sun qtr

2010-06-26 Thread Graham McArdle
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Bart Smaalders bart.smaald...@oracle.com wrote: As many of us have stated, the next release of Solaris will be based on the work done in OpenSolaris. But will it still be recognizable as Solaris? Or is it going to be just another Linux clone, albeit

Re: [osol-discuss] New to OSOL: Move from Linux/Xen: BrandZ, xVM, virtualBox?

2010-06-18 Thread Graham McArdle
I guess it depends on how familiar you are (or willing to become) with OpenSolaris and how much you need the performance vs how much you'd like to stay with what you know. Zones should be much lower overhead than guest VMs, but you'd want all services (web, mail jabber etc.) to be native

Re: [osol-discuss] ok I'm really confused; Solaris 10 vs Open Solaris

2010-04-10 Thread Graham McArdle
I was under the impression Open Solaris was the free version of Solaris. The one where the community helps develop future releases of Solaris, and Solaris was the commercial product that cost money to obtain. Just went to the website and it says I can have Solaris 10 free? It's kind of

Re: [osol-discuss] newbie need HELP just an update for all

2010-04-10 Thread Graham McArdle
I am being critical here but I'm not angry. Just not really impressed. several years ago Sun was kind of promoting Open Solaris as being a viable alternative to MS Windows. But they didn't really inform people that it really was not user friendly, plug and play and for the common person.

Re: [osol-discuss] What's Going to Happen to OpenSolaris?

2010-01-28 Thread Graham McArdle
I realize that OpenSolaris isn't *entirely* separate from Solaris, but if Sun intended to have the next release of Solaris based on OpenSolaris, then millions will have to be spent to get it to that point, and many years. The better option would have been to have the next release built on