Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-04 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 02:16:53PM -0600, Wes Felter wrote: T10 UNMAP/thin provisioning support in zvols That's probably simple enough, and sufficiently valuable too. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [zfs-discuss] zfs related google summer of code ideas - your vote

2009-03-03 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 11:35:40PM +0200, C. Bergström wrote: 7) vdev evacuation as an upgrade path (which may depend or take advantage of zfs resize/shrink code) IIRC Matt Ahrens has said on this list that vdev evacuation/pool shrinking is being worked. So (7) would be duplication of

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-16 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 01:05:42PM -0500, Brian Utterback wrote: It is simple. Do we want the default environment to be a Solaris one or a GNU one? If you want both, you have to provide a knob to switch them back and forth. I agree, but that knob should be made to work via shell startup

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-16 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 01:56:45PM -0500, Sebastien Roy wrote: On Fri, 2009-01-16 at 10:28 -0800, Glenn Lagasse wrote: * Brian Utterback (brian.utterb...@sun.com) wrote: It is simple. Do we want the default environment to be a Solaris one or a GNU one? If you want both, you have to

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-16 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 12:52:33PM -0600, Brian Smith wrote: Nicolas Williams wrote: The Indiana team evidently want GNU utils be preferred, and evidently would like to see the compatibility issues with Solaris utils fixed. I see no problem with that, provided those issues are addressed

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-16 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 04:14:01PM -0500, Dave Miner wrote: My opinion is that the GNU utilities should be modified, with modifications fed back upstream ... snip Sometimes that doesn't work. GRUB is a good example. I don't know whether GRUB is a good example, as I'm not up on

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-16 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:26:20PM -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: tcsh is not a core Solaris package and media is not of an infinite size. Software has to be selected to fit on the core media based on certain goals. Everyone has their own favourite software that probably isn't installed by

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-16 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:16:45PM -0800, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Nicolas Williams wrote: On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 03:26:20PM -0600, Shawn Walker wrote: tcsh is not a core Solaris package and media is not of an infinite size. Software has to be selected to fit on the core media based

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-16 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 02:21:17PM -0800, Brock Pytlik wrote: Nicolas Williams wrote: Can't it be in entire? It is in entire, but that doesn't mean it's part of the default installation. I believe it was removed from the default install because of space issues on the CD for 2008.11

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-16 Thread Nicolas Williams
If the Solaris commands become a superset of the Gnu ones, then that position becomes a fait accompli. Thus avoiding the entire question of whether or not that's the best - or even a desirable - goal. Not quite -- there are conflicts between the commands themselves. For example, GNU and

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-15 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 04:31:03PM +0100, I. Szczesniak wrote: I believe it is a mistake to concentrate on the GNU coreutils tools. Opensolaris would alienate users from OSX and BSD platforms with an API which roughly changes every six months. It'd be better if Opensolaris starts its own

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-14 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:15:33AM +0100, casper@sun.com wrote: hello all, i'm surprised that gnu chmod is installed, what are the advantages comparing to solaris chmod? It's very annoying when using ACLs. No reason; several of the GNU utilities are broken in some way in Solaris;

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] why gnu chmod in os2008.11?

2009-01-14 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 09:36:05PM +0100, Jan Friedel wrote: RBAC related: Since I'm using the /usr/xpg4/bin path as the primary one, I was little bit confused, that, event thought I have the Object Access Management profile applied on my account, I'm not able to

Re: [osol-discuss] SRP target project

2008-12-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 09:42:37PM +0200, Cyril Plisko wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:22 PM, Nicolas Williams nicolas.willi...@sun.com wrote: I was mystified too. I think SRP is too confusable. I recommend a different acronym. What's wrong with iSER as a project name anyways? SRP

Re: [osol-discuss] [indiana-discuss] FF3 stability and performance concerns

2008-10-31 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 09:13:46PM +1300, Ian Collins wrote: That's an odd comment, considering most reviews of FF3 I've seen commends it for being both faster and leaking less memory tan its predecessor. See: 6755391 sqlite3 should not be built with SQLITE_DEBUG; uses access(2) too often,

Re: [osol-discuss] [cifs-discuss] Windows-Solaris Name Service Cooperation?

2008-06-19 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:10:49PM -0400, Kyle McDonald wrote: Nicolas Williams wrote: OK then the prescription is: - setup a Unix nameservice for the Solaris and Linux systems I should point out here too that your NFSv3 clients don't strictly need a Unix nameservice if they don't need

Re: [osol-discuss] [cifs-discuss] Windows-Solaris Name Service Cooperation?

2008-06-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 06:53:08AM -0400, Kyle McDonald wrote: as a Domain Controller? No. That's OK. But (liking Solaris as much as I do,) it seems a shame to leave Windows as the only system that can be the authoritative source for this

Re: [osol-discuss] [cifs-discuss] Windows-Solaris Name Service Cooperation?

2008-06-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 04:39:52PM -0400, Kyle McDonald wrote: Is SFU required to use only NFSv3 between Solaris Machines? No. A Unix name service is strongly implied. That could be SFU. No interop with Linux with NFSv3. Try using CIFS. But Linux SMB mounts are done as a single UserID

Re: [osol-discuss] [cifs-discuss] Windows-Solaris Name Service Cooperation?

2008-06-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
BTW, for more information on how to use AD SFU as a Unix LDAP nameservice see: http://blogs.sun.com/baban/entry/solaris_10_and_active_directory ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [cifs-discuss] Windows-Solaris Name Service Cooperation?

2008-06-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 06:40:05PM -0400, Kyle McDonald wrote: So, what are you trying to do? I need to setup a new farm of software build servers. They'll consist of all different versions of Linux (multiple versions of RHEL, and SLES) and a few S10 for building our software. I also

Re: [osol-discuss] [cifs-discuss] Windows-Solaris Name Service Cooperation?

2008-06-17 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 01:43:46PM -0400, Kyle McDonald wrote: The part I'm fuzzy on are the nameservies interoperation. I know the CIFS server required a bunch of work to deal with windows user and groups for file ownership and access control. What is new in Solaris though for shareing

Re: [osol-discuss] How a (wrong) accent can lock you out of your server

2008-05-23 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 01:10:15PM +0200, Nico Sabbi wrote: I'd like to point out this stupidity in the localization of scp/ssh, that can have *VERY* dangerous consequences (like being locked out of your server). At the first connection ssh asks you if you want to continue the connection

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-19 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 04:45:19PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe Paul was suggesting that you could *now* use the knowledge you gained in writing your compare(1) to improved the now available in source form cmp(1) ? As some other

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-19 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 05:56:49PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Or you could rename your compare to something else that conflicts neither with the existing cmp(1) nor the new compare(1) (yes, it came in before yours and now you're not happy; c'est la vie). ecmp, fcmp, ... four letters

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-19 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 06:36:13PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: It happened. Oh well. Now you might want to finish the task of integrating star before someone appropriates that command name for something else... :/ This does not depend on me as I am ready and waiting sice quite some

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-19 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 06:43:02PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Nicolas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It most definitely does depend on you since noone is getting paid to do it and noone is volunteering to do it either, which leaves you as the party with the most interest

Re: [osol-discuss] [ogb-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-19 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Dec 19, 2007 at 08:24:36PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It obviously doesn't work then because freshmeat.net lists both star and ImageMagic. I see no relation between imagemagic and star. What is your problem? Darren is saying that

Re: [osol-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-14 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 05:55:52PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Joep Vesseur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/14/07 12:58, Joerg Schilling wrote: The real compare is 20 years older and I did _warn_ _before_ the name appeared in /usr/bin. For this reason, this is an important bug in

Re: [osol-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-14 Thread Nicolas Williams
Jörg seems to want the ARC and c-teams to use a different method than they use today for deciding when some utility (or library, or whatever) name is a conflict with another existing one. I recommend that Jörg make a proposal for such a change without making such a proposal specific to his

Re: [osol-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-14 Thread Nicolas Williams
I'd set Reply-To so your replies, if any, would go to opensolaris-discuss, not psarc-ext. One more try. Again, don't reply to me directly please. On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 06:42:58PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: Nicolas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why are we still arguing about

Re: [osol-discuss] Nameclash on svn_77 because Sun is ignoring PSARC discussions

2007-12-14 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 08:35:33PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: As long as it it impossible to implement the arc decisions in OpenSolaris, OpenSolaris cannot evolve. You've jumped the shark. ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] [security-discuss] New passwd switch?

2007-11-27 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Tue, Nov 27, 2007 at 07:23:35AM -0800, Gary Winiger wrote: Secondly, Craig has hired someone to work on SMC. Once he gets up to speed, one of the tasks I've got planned for him is a general key=value extension so SMC will not continue to block work that needs to be

[osol-discuss] Re: [networking-discuss] Project Proposal: Virtual Network Machines

2007-05-17 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Thu, May 17, 2007 at 09:34:29AM -0700, David Bustos wrote: Quoth Nicolas Droux on Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:00:30PM -0600: On behalf of the Networking Community I'd like to propose the creation of a new OpenSolaris project: Virtual Network Machines. The project will exploit

Re: [Security-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal for new OpenSolaris project: modernise syslogd

2006-06-13 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 08:13:05AM -0700, Gary Winiger wrote: They don't duplicate the info in the syslog files though? Just to this point. Solaris Audit records a local binary file (possibly remote via NFS). In parallel it will write some subset of that file in a

Re: [networking-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal for new OpenSolaris project: modernise syslogd

2006-06-09 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 12:12:33PM -0400, James Carlson wrote: Instead, syslog is a great dumping ground for all sorts of debug and human-only messages, and will likely be treated that way indefinitely. I would oppose an effort to apply structure on top of something that is inherently without

Re: [networking-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal for new OpenSolaris project: modernise syslogd

2006-06-09 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 10:58:09PM +0800, Darren Reed wrote: If there is any evolution of the log file format, it will be to use XML. [...] Sure, but the schema will have to be influenced by what the IETF SYSLOG WG ends up doing w.r.t. structured messages.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Re: I wish Sun would open-source QFS... / was:Re: Re: Distributed File System for Solaris

2006-05-31 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 06:19:16AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The requirement is not that inodes and data are separate; the requirement is a specific upperbound to disk transactions. The question therefor is not when will ZFS be able to separate inods and data; the question is when ZFS

[osol-discuss] OSOL mailing list issues

2006-05-12 Thread Nicolas Williams
The ZFS discuss list is re-delivering old messages. Have the problems with the archives been fixed? Nico -- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: [zfs-discuss] OSOL mailing list issues

2006-05-12 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 10:29:53AM -0700, Derek Cicero wrote: Nicolas Williams wrote: The ZFS discuss list is re-delivering old messages. Which message(s) was redelivered? E.g., a post from Eric Schrock from May 5, 2006, with message ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] and a few others. Have

[osol-discuss] Having to subscribe to post considered obnoxious (Re: [zfs-discuss] OSOL mailing list issues)

2006-05-12 Thread Nicolas Williams
Also, I'm getting tired of replying to some e-mail only to get a post awaits moderator approval reply. I understand why we do that for non-subscribers. And I guess we wouldn't want to by default treat @sun.com posters as permitted to post w/o moderation. But it's bloody obnoxious. I don't want

[osol-discuss] Re: Having to subscribe to post considered obnoxious (Re: [zfs-discuss] OSOL mailing list issues)

2006-05-12 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 02:13:37PM -0700, Derek Cicero wrote: Yes, the future goal is to allow all registered users to post to all lists, however this requires us to re-write parts of mailman. The folks working on the SCM app right now should be able to turn their attention to the mailman

[osol-discuss] Re: [zfs-discuss] OSOL mailing list issues

2006-05-12 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Fri, May 12, 2006 at 02:28:42PM -0700, Derek Cicero wrote: E.g., a post from Eric Schrock from May 5, 2006, with message ID [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, based on this message ID, it did not come twice to the same list. It came once to the zfs list on 5/5 and was cross posted to the nfs list.

[osol-discuss] Archives missing e-mails Re: [Security-discuss] how to prevent su - id from root

2006-04-18 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 02:30:29PM +0800, Wuming Shi wrote: hi, how can I disable the root from su - id to become id? currently the root can su to id without password, so it's not safe to this user. This thread is not showing up on the OpenSolaris discuss archive... The mailman archives has