Re: [osol-discuss] eSATA or ??? for Sun Blade 2500

2011-05-03 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
First I have been out of the loop (retired) for 4 years so be gentle. I'm doing some part time consulting and a Sun Blade 2500 (which are now dirt cheap and plentiful) would be perfect for my client IF I could hang some storage on it. I need 300GB and of course, this is on a budget

[osol-discuss] sort options

2011-03-18 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I think sort(1) needs a couple of new (as of the last time I looked at an OpenSolaris man page) options: -C (upper case letter C): same as -c but explicitly silent. This should comply with the latest SUS/XPG, and reconcile the difference between /usr/bin/sort and /usr/xpg4/bin/sort. -h (as a

Re: [osol-discuss] sort options

2011-03-18 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On 03/18/11 08:18 AM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: I think sort(1) needs a couple of new (as of the last time I looked at an OpenSolaris man page) options: -C (upper case letter C): same as -c but explicitly silent. This should comply with the latest SUS/XPG, and reconcile

Re: [osol-discuss] sort options

2011-03-18 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On 03/18/11 08:24 AM, Richard L. Hamilton wrote: In other words, if GNU sort has all the functionality and more, then why doesn't it get promoted to the one true version of sort? Because no one has had time to finish all the analysis and standards testing yet to determine that for all

Re: [osol-discuss] eSATA works fine?

2011-03-08 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
From the fact that there was at one time a project to add port multiplier support, I'm thinking that there is a need for driver support; maybe not a separate driver, but for the driver to be aware that such things might be present at least. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] advise on opensolaris version to be used

2011-02-03 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
From: Matthias Pfützner [mailto:matth...@pfuetzner.de] Just a small correction. It's NOT closed source, it's still open source, BUT: The source will only be published AFTER the commercial binary release! So: It's closed development, but NOT closed source! You're the only person

Re: [osol-discuss] small jbod tower?

2011-01-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
http://www.enhance-tech.com/products/desktop/E8_Series.html Should support either SAS or SATA. I'm using the E8-ML, but then I have an 8-port SAS controller. If you want less cables, you may want the port multiplier configuration. Not what I'd pick, because it locks you in more and has less

Re: [osol-discuss] Understanding anonymous memory.

2010-12-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I realise we could just continually increase memory load until the page scanner reaches some threshold, but this is not really an acceptable approach. You could do that without fiddling with the database resources, by running a simple program (like the attached) to add a temporary load to the

Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.

2010-11-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Obviously it will have some performance impact. Whether you'll notice it is another story. I found a posts about the impact: http://blogs.sun.com/jtc/entry/overhead_in_increasing_the_solaris but nothing would be anywhere near as informative as testing with your actual workload. I think libXt

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris support cheaper than RedHat Ent. linux 6 :-)

2010-11-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
taking a break, so I decided to read some news:-) RedHat 6 got a new pricing. http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/7023-New-RedHat-prici ng.html Sorry for mistakenly posting under Help I meant to posted it under discussion my bad:-( Cc'd opensolaris-discuss to get it over

Re: [osol-discuss] X11 XtAppAddTimeOut is not working properly.

2010-11-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On Nov 22, 2010, at 1:16 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: Richard L. Hamilton wrote: I think libXt uses select(); Yes. one could imagine an alternate implementation that used event ports and a high-resolution timer. It might take a lot of testing to get right though, and high resolution

Re: [osol-discuss] something about solaris 11 express license(OTN)

2010-11-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I read the license several times, but, shame-on-me, I think it is EXACTLY what it should be (and actually what it should have been). Sun was trying to play a nice guy, but failed miserably. That has affected not only Sun and Sun's shareholders, but also many of Sun's career employees.

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Well you know some of us home users aren't going to be happy. *Supported on sun4v and sun4u based systems with OBP (Open Boot PROM) level 4.17 or higher. $ uname -a;prtdiag -v|tail -2 SunOS paradox 5.11 snv_97 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-1000 OBP 4.16.4 2004/12/18 05:18 POST 4.16.3 2004/11/05

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 11 Express is out

2010-11-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
It's likely that it will work for you if you install from the text installer media, but automated installation requires that level of OBP. I'd have to use a text-based installer anyway, since anything that no longer includes Xsun won't support anything other than an XVR-100 that would work

Re: [osol-discuss] Change scheduling class of a thread (lwp) of a process.

2010-11-13 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Hi, We can change the scheduling class of a process (either single threaded or multithreaded) using priocntl(1) utility. However, I would like to use different scheduling classes for different threads (lwps) of a process on OpenSolaris.2009.06. But there is no such an option with

Re: [osol-discuss] Changing Username Default Length from 8 to 32 or more

2010-11-09 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Hi, I have researched online in order to solve this and didn't find any information. [b]Could you please how can I create a new username (numbers based) eg. -?[/b] please let me know, I'll apretiate your kindly help!!! bergmp at gmail dot com Accounts can be created with

Re: [osol-discuss] TCP fusion Parameters

2010-10-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Hi, what happened to the TCP fusion tunables in Latest OpenSolaris? The variable I can find via mdb on Solaris 10, tcp_fusion_rcv_unread_min.Are these parameter are still available in Latest Solaris .Did the counter of outstanding writes without a read get removed. So does it it means

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-26 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
[...] Oracle are targeting Solaris at Banks. They don't seem to want a Solaris community. They seem to want your money, and only want you using Solaris 11 Express if you're developing for it, evaluating it, or intend to buy it. Not sure if it's so much greed as control freaks. Or else they

Re: [osol-discuss] top Solaris dev MikeShapiro quits Oracle

2010-10-25 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
That's the last of the original DTrace three (Cantrill, Leventhal, and Shapiro), right? Bummer... Here's my list of big names that have left so far. It's long enough that the arguments for natural turnover and fresh blood that some have made strike me as reaching; a much more obvious conclusion

Re: [osol-discuss] multibyte support for FTP in Solaris

2010-10-25 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
In a perfect world, the functionality in the newer RFC that I mentioned would communicate the client's locale to the server, and they'd both behave in a way that took that into account (including filename expansion, presumably). AFAIK (from a very quick and brief look at the code), the current

Re: [osol-discuss] Quick question about the future

2010-10-25 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
[...] personal use is fine for me and OI is way too buggy still. won't upgrade following the explicit directions on their website and support seems to be a big mess (I am sure that will change in 6 months) Hi Stephen, Obviously OI is in bootstrap phase at the moment and there are of

Re: [osol-discuss] multibyte support for FTP in Solaris

2010-10-21 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Hello, I need to know if FTP has support for multibyte languages. Meaning, if the locale is set to be multibyte languages like Japanese/ Chinese, does FTP/FTPD in solaris support it? With Regards, Shilpa. What sort of support? AFAIK, the ftp protocol transfers either raw binary

Re: [osol-discuss] multibyte support for FTP in Solaris

2010-10-21 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
What i wanted to know was, if the filename has got multibyte characters, and not if the content of the file is multibyte. Between two Unix systems, it shouldn't matter, since the convention there would be to use UTF-8 encoding for multibyte names. UTF-8 is friendly to anything that is 8-bit

Re: [osol-discuss] 32-bit noexec_user_stack on per-process basis?

2010-10-20 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I had a few minutes today to try an experiment, and I'm afraid the idea of having ld always generate a PT_SUNWSTACK is a non-starter. The problem is that it overrides the behavior of 'set noexec_user_stack=1' in /etc/system, and can therefore quietly allow programs that would

Re: [osol-discuss] 32-bit noexec_user_stack on per-process basis?

2010-10-20 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I picture this somehow as being just a bit more functionality added to mprotect(2): /* following magic to identify operating on that segment, rather than * a particular address */ #define ADDR_STACK (void *) (-1) #define ADDR_HEAP (void *) (-2) mprotect(ADDR_STACK, 0,

Re: [osol-discuss] 32-bit noexec_user_stack on per-process basis?

2010-10-20 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Which does the PT_SUNWSTACK header apply to? It sets the fields in the proc structure which defines the stack protection. I'm not sure what point there would be in per-thread control; if any one thread in an address space is exploitable, the whole address space is potentially

Re: [osol-discuss] 32-bit noexec_user_stack on per-process basis?

2010-10-20 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
In that case, let me revise my earlier proposal: ADDR_HEAP would apply to the entire heap, current and future. ADDR_STACK would alter future behavior (both for main stack and by invalidating stackprot as previously mentioned, for thread stacks), but for the sake of gcc trampolines and the

Re: [osol-discuss] 32-bit noexec_user_stack on per-process basis?

2010-10-20 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On 10/20/10 3:39 AM, casper@sun.com wrote: I had a few minutes today to try an experiment, and I'm afraid the idea of having ld always generate a PT_SUNWSTACK is a non-starter. The problem is that it overrides the behavior of 'set noexec_user_stack=1' in /etc/system, and

Re: [osol-discuss] 32-bit noexec_user_stack on per-process basis?

2010-10-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On 10/17/10 10:01, Ali Bahrami wrote: [...] Until there's a consensus that Solaris should ignore the platform ABI, I think we're back to the original assertion that the best you can do is to always link with -M /usr/lib/ld/map.noexstk, and to set noexec_user_stack. Since executables that

Re: [osol-discuss] 32-bit noexec_user_stack on per-process basis?

2010-10-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
While it doesn't help existing binaries, would it be possible to for new 32-bit binaries persuade the linker to issue a redundant (same as ABI) PT_SUNWSTACK header? That I suppose elfedit _would_ be able to change after-the-fact. I gather one could do it indirectly, by linking with -M

Re: [osol-discuss] 32-bit noexec_user_stack on per-process basis?

2010-10-16 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
ppgsz(1) or mpss.so.1(1) can set preferred page size for existing (ppgsz) or new (both) processes. Is there anything that can similarly remove execute permission from the stack of 32-bit processes, without do so on a system-wide basis (i.e. without putting set noexec_user_stack=1 in

[osol-discuss] 32-bit noexec_user_stack on per-process basis?

2010-10-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
ppgsz(1) or mpss.so.1(1) can set preferred page size for existing (ppgsz) or new (both) processes. Is there anything that can similarly remove execute permission from the stack of 32-bit processes, without do so on a system-wide basis (i.e. without putting set noexec_user_stack=1 in

Re: [osol-discuss] pool cannot be imported or destroyed

2010-10-13 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Hi, I suspect my issue is related to bug 6924390; although mine is on SXCE130; I was testing the system, enabled dedup, created an iscsi volume; then disabled the dedup, tried to delete the iscsi volume but gave me an error message, after that, the system stopped working. I used -m

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle to soon hike MySQL pricing!

2010-10-09 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On 10/9/2010 5:34 AM, Edward Ned Harvey wrote: From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Edward Martinez Ouch... Microsoft raises the price for Windows. Adobe raises the price for Acrobat. Symantec

Re: [osol-discuss] C programming, invalid argc value

2010-09-30 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Maybe something strange with gdb, or with the compiler? By convention, there is always supposed to be at least one argument, argv[0], which should be the same as the pathname or the last level of the pathname being executed (login shells typically get the last level of the pathname but prefixed

Re: [osol-discuss] C programming, invalid argc value

2010-09-30 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
And for the curious, after adding a pause() following the printf() in atest.c, so I could use ps to see what a process with no argv[0] looked like: $ ps -o pid,fname -p 15789 PID COMMAND 15789 atest $ ps -o pid,comm -p 15789 PID COMMAND 15789 $ ps -o pid,args -p 15789 PID COMMAND 15789 $

Re: [osol-discuss] : - (

2010-09-28 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Not to mention more detail on a much earlier departure: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Java-Creator-James-Gosling-Why-I-Quit-Oracle-813517/ Keeping in mind that one tends to only hear one side at a time, nevertheless, it doesn't sound like Oracle wants creative people unless

Re: [osol-discuss] now seems official- OpenSolaris name retired

2010-09-21 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
He stressed that Oracle will continue to work with the Linux community on the open-source version of OpenSolaris, as well as Oracle Linux and its Red Hat Compatible Linux. Linux Community? What about working with the OpenSolaris community? How about reopening onnv-gate again to

Re: [osol-discuss] Merge other distros to OpenIndiana?

2010-09-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Cloning somewhat helps with the disk footprint, but the savings there will get lower over time as more and more binaries are upgraded. We clearly have to work on that. The memory saving of sparse root zones was nothing to sniff at. So a share-able executable, library, or object had

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On 9/14/10, Eric Andersen wrote: Whatever Apple does or doesn't do, the point I was trying to make was that a whole lot of people are willing to not only accept, but pay for an operating system that is closed source. A very large amount of OS X source code is open and freely

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Just updated my Ultra20 to openindiana from b134. Flawless so far. Very nice Exactly the distro I was looking for (i.e. not much changed from opensolaris). I tried nexenta and it is not what I want, I am sure others want it though, so all power to them. I am sure they were using

Re: [osol-discuss] Merge other distros to OpenIndiana?

2010-09-16 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Ok, I understand your point. And it is cool with you being first with several things. I am only asking if all distros cooperated on one single distro, would it not be better if there was only one official community distro. It does not matter to people if it is Schillix or OpenIndiana, as

Re: [osol-discuss] Merge other distros to OpenIndiana?

2010-09-16 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I just have a small suggestion. Whatever distribution we make, please make available packages like FreeBSD ports or Debian. That's the only way we can make it more popular with Admins and new users. Ashish Nabira Enterprise IT Architect Email ashish.nab...@sun.com Are you talking

Re: [osol-discuss] NetApp and Oracle settle patent dispute over ZFS

2010-09-13 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I certainly hope the terms of the settlement are released. Keeping it secret would conspire to cast FUD on all other distributions incorporating ZFS or considering it; most of which would be targeted at folks well below the Fortune 500, which means those not wealthy enough to

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris 10,Oracle Solaris Express new license

2010-09-11 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 9/10/2010 6:11 PM, Edward Martinez wrote: It appears this is the license Solaris 11 Express wil be under and it's solaris 10 new license, an OTN lincese. http://c0t0d0s0.org/archives/6891-Licensing-Change-for

Re: [osol-discuss] NetApp and Oracle settle patent dispute over ZFS

2010-09-10 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Seems like Oracle Solaris users are safe, not sure if other companies using ZFS in their products. re also included. I'm not a lawyer:-) http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9I4EAR80 .htm I certainly hope the terms of the settlement are released. Keeping it secret would conspire

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenIndiana - a new OpenSolaris Distribution!

2010-09-10 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Copyright a state? So anyone starting Indiana Software, LLC would be in conflict with Sun because of a codename on a project? I guess people have sued for dumber things to try and get money. I think that Intel and Zilog both trademarked letters of the alphabet (i and z, respectively);

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-09-09 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
[...] Perhaps some sort of side project can be started to look at a generic way of making device driver sources from Linux and the BSDs work with the OpenSolaris kernel (as separate Solaris modules so there are no clashes between the CDDL and GPL/BSD licenses.) Most of the devices are

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-09-09 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Are you speculating or do you have some substance? You seem to know a bit about AIX kernel code? He's not wrong about AIX history - it has had parts of its kernel pageable for a long time. But that is less important now than it was once, esp. since CPUs are so fast, and disks, while large

Re: [osol-discuss] Indiana - what comes closest to it?

2010-08-31 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
[...] on the other hand, I also wonder how update/patch will be handled with Solaris 11 Express program since it will probably employ a longer release period than Indiana, will there be a repo for security related patches? I am not worried about Oracle being able to come up support scheme

Re: [osol-discuss] starting $1, 000.00 - Solaris Premier Subscription for Non-Oracle Hardware

2010-08-24 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
AFAIK, that's pretty much what they said they'd do (as contrasted with coming out with one more OpenSolaris release, which they had said they'd do but didn't). So for those who want to run Solaris on non-Oracle x86 hardware on the HCL in a business setting, it's (still) possible. The lack of a

Re: [osol-discuss] Opensolaris kernel based desktop - StormOS

2010-08-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
OK, someone 'splain me somethin' I get how Solaris and OpenSolaris work, what packages are, IPS, how to install stuff, and all that. Been doing it for a couple decades. And by the way, I'm still holding out hope for the Solaris 11 developer release to effectively replace OpenSolaris.

Re: [osol-discuss] Performance Degradation with 1GB Pages for Heap

2010-08-21 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Hi, My AMD Opteron supports 4KB, 2MB and 1GB page sizes. I observed that there is performance improvement (reduced elapsed time) for some multi-threaded applications when I used 2MB page-size for heap. These applications need around 650MB heap (it reads a huge file of around 650MB size).

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Let me guess what the Solaris 11 Express will be: The demo version of commercial Solaris 11. Utilizing only limited amount of RAM, disk space, and limited number of CPU cores. I've never heard of any version of Solaris, commercial or otherwise, that was purposely crippled to use only

[osol-discuss] place yer bets on who leaves next...

2010-08-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
This is getting to the point that I'm even starting to feel the pattern here, and I'm not one to proclaim bad news quickly. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/815946 Since then, a couple of the names the poster speculated about have moved on. It's hard not to wonder if there aren't some

[osol-discuss] place yer bets on who leaves next...

2010-08-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
This is getting to the point that I'm even starting to feel the pattern here, and I'm not one to proclaim bad news quickly. http://forums.theregister.co.uk/post/815946 Since then, a couple of the names the poster speculated about have moved on. It's hard not to wonder if there aren't some

Re: [osol-discuss] place yer bets on who leaves next...

2010-08-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On 19 Aug 2010, at 15:43, Rick Ramsey wrote: I've been with Sun since 89 and our great engineers have always moved on. There's only room for a few at the top, after all. It's actually a healthy movement, since it gives younger engineers with fresh approaches a change to step up.

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-18 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
We should not forget that Larry Steve are said to be old time friends. Apple showed great interest on ZFS (as any other OS vendor, be it interest or envy). Who knows what caused the decision to drop it? Maybe Steve was aware of next Solaris happenings?

Re: [osol-discuss] Where too now?

2010-08-16 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I feel Sol 11 express will be free to download like the rest of Oracle's apps. I believe Oracle thinks only enterprise users visit oracle sites,and that makes oracle use the term enterprise,enterprise user in their presentations, while the rest visit science project distros sites. like

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
ostrich play with x86. The other thing is that the memo is focused inward, and it doesn't really offer complete information looking outward at customers. Just because they are changing what they're doing with releases doesn't mean that it will work out worse. I'd really like to be an

Re: [osol-discuss] Where too now?

2010-08-14 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I don't think the IPS repos will disappear soon.nbsp; In that memo it was stated they are going to try to get a migration path from Opensolaris to Solaris 11 Express.nbsp; So until that bridge is built, I believe they will keep the current repo going. Paul i reread and i

Re: [osol-discuss] Oracle sues Google over Java!

2010-08-13 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Oracle sues Google over Java! Un-believable! Now it is proven what Oracle's intentions are! Is Java free??? What is the future of Java now??? So much for pro-open source attitude! It doesn't exist -maybe it never did after Oracle acquired Sun. Will anyone trust Oracle any more? Too

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with Solaris 11 Express

2010-08-13 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Presuming this is authentic, and not a hoax...hmm. * Arrogance level: high * Business justification: yes, if one neglects the negative response * Practical impact: unclear Most new projects already got pretty far along behind the firewall before the rest of us could see them. This sounds as if

Re: [osol-discuss] upcoming web event:strategy for Oracle's Sun Servers, Storage and solaris

2010-08-13 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On Aug 13, 2010, at 16:39, Paul Gress wrote: On 08/13/10 06:35 AM, andrew wrote: I don't expect to ever see binaries for the OpenSolaris distribution again. The most I think we can expect is a preview of Solaris 11 along the lines of the old Solaris Express programme. I hope

Re: [osol-discuss] mdb query

2010-08-10 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Eric Thank you, that is definitely the starting point. Once we have the driver's context structure pointer, to dump it out will i have to implement a mdb extension (Chapter 10 in mdb reference) to dump the fields of this context structure? agree, the driver's internal structure is part of

Re: [osol-discuss] The Illumos Project

2010-08-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Ivan Wang wrote: You need a distro built upon it to actually benefit from illumos, plus things like X Windows stack (FOX gate?,) The FOX gate is obsolete and no longer maintained, since the project to replace all portions of the X consolidation with open source completed. The xnv-clone

Re: [osol-discuss] The Illumos Project

2010-08-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
The nVIDIA device driver is written by nVIDIA, not Oracle! Solaris/OpenSolaris is not specifically a Server or Workstation OS, it's an OS. People use it. Oracle/Sun currently only sells server-hardware. So, trying to derive from that fact, that Solaris/OpenSolaris is only a server OS is

Re: [osol-discuss] The Illumos Project

2010-08-04 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
John Martin, any ideas? As this also would work for the standard Solaris, because at least, nVIDIA already does provide the drivers for Solaris... http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_home_new.html http://www.nvidia.com/object/what_is_cuda_new.html

Re: [osol-discuss] root roles security holes

2010-08-02 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
This is a variant of the convenience argument. Systems with root as a ole require a local user account with Primary Administrator role. When I installed OpenSolaris it did the right thing and created such an account that does not depend on NIS or LDAP and is thus insulated from issues

Re: [osol-discuss] New onnv distro naming suggestion

2010-08-02 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
You want a name? uname... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] were we string along?

2010-08-01 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
People tend to be banned for being seriously rude - hostile environment, or something like that - not for disagreeing with the alleged party line (of which there probably isn't one - I for one would probably not please either the sky is falling or the everything is wonderful crowd, since I tend to

Re: [osol-discuss] So it is true about the Media Pack

2010-08-01 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
From: opensolaris-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org [mailto:opensolaris- discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Brandon Hume Or you just pay $400/yr to have a paid license with updates. I wish you'd be careful throwing around absolute numbers like that. That value is

Re: [osol-discuss] were we string along?

2010-07-31 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I can post anything I want since the First Amendment (something I swore an oath to protect) is still valid in the United States; there is nothing more that can be said on the topic. Any valid questions and arguments have already been posted, so anything new is purely to antagonize. _All_

Re: [osol-discuss] Dell and HP to Certify and Resell all Three Oracle Operating Systems on their x86 Server Computers

2010-07-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
FYI: http://www.oracle.com/us/corporate/press/161333 -- Alan Burlison Good to see some clarity on one of the areas that earlier seemed murky. More of the same, regarding OpenSolaris (the distro) would be helpful. The alleged removal of the servers for the postgres folks' build farm

Re: [osol-discuss] Dell and HP to Certify and Resell all Three Oracle Operating Systems on their x86 Server Computers

2010-07-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Oracle mentions OpenSolaris now: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/opens olaris/overview/index.html Not much of a mention - just says please go to OpenSolaris.com on every tab. Interesting to see that there is a community tab, which also points to opensolaris.COM All

Re: [osol-discuss] Dell and HP to Certify and Resell all Three Oracle Operating Systems on their x86 Server Computers

2010-07-29 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Oracle mentions OpenSolaris now: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/opens olaris/overview/index.html Not much of a mention - just says please go to OpenSolaris.com on every tab. Interesting to see that there is a community tab, which also points to opensolaris.COM All

Re: [osol-discuss] Can opensolaris do CDP

2010-07-23 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
now i know how to do auto-snapshot on opensolairs. Can anybody tell me if opensolairs has any tool to implement CDP? thx a lot. By what definition? AFAIK, the extreme definition implies being able to restore to any single completed write operation:

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro, teamwork and being clear

2010-07-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I'm certainly not opposed to open, but the main thing it means to me is source access (more to look, troubleshoot, and understand, and maybe never to build), and also a counterweight to the scheme of the day. In almost every other capacity, the openness of a distro doesn't do a thing for me one

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro, teamwork and being clear

2010-07-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I don't know, but probably more people contributed to SFE and/or /contrib in the last couple of years than to Blastwave. Without getting into pointless comparisons (I've used both), the problem I have with /contrib is the huge bottleneck that appears to be present getting stuff from /pending

Re: [osol-discuss] I hope we also get a welcome mat at openworld.

2010-07-21 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Why isn't Larry slapping his marketing personnel? Can they spell communication? Non-communications is the policy, right? So he'd have to slap himself. I'd like a video of that... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-21 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Stefan Parvu stefanparv...@yahoo.com wrote: Interesting. Do you have any comparative numbers between OSOL and others: RHAT, Ubuntu for instance ? I had the impression SMF did improve things. As I read your post it seems, sometimes in past but not anymore ... why is that ?

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris/Opensolaris, for a Server, or Desktop?

2010-07-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 6:18 PM, David Brodbeck bro...@u.washington.edu wrote: Is there any real reason to run compiz, other than so you can watch your windows go up in flames or break into little tiny cubes when you close them?  That stuff sold Vista but I'm not convinced of its value

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-19 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On Jul 19, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Mark Martin wrote: On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de wrote: Richard L. Hamilton rlha...@smart.net wrote: A packaging system is a packaging system. IPS is nobody's favorite, but that's better than arguing

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Rob asked: Where do we get started to form a Community Distro, based on the latest sources including IPS. Not a cut down version, or replacing the userland (no offence there, that's good work too), just a take on Solaris Next based on the latest available bits. You already have

Re: [osol-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On Sat, Jul 17, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Richard L. Hamilton rlha...@smart.net wrote: Until Indiana was self-hosting, they built on SXCE. AFAIK, once Indiana was self-hosting, they built on it. Some (no doubt not all) would like to stay in sync with what they're building on, as much

[osol-discuss] How does the community benefit Oracle?

2010-07-16 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
People seem to keep asking what Oracle has done for them lately. It might be an interesting exercise to look at it from their point of view. What do they get out of engaging the community? That's what someone (maybe the OGB, who knows) may well have to be prepared to spell out if/when they talk

Re: [osol-discuss] [distribution-discuss] Community distro

2010-07-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
One of the biggest problems I just noticed is the stall in promoting packages from pending to contrib. Contrib: http://pkg.opensolaris.org/contrib/en/index.shtml packages: 351, last updated December 15, 2009 Promoted to contrib: http://jucr.opensolaris.org/statistics/promoted_packages packages:

Re: [osol-discuss] Yet another warning about behaviour on this list

2010-07-15 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
What actually bothers me is that this has NOT been a Gabby Goose section, at least not until recently. And, no, not all People have to understand that this is not a technical list. *You* understand it to be a not technical list and it is quite disingenuous, if not dangerous, to assume that

Re: [osol-discuss] Why do we need Oracle's permission or vision for OpenSolaris?

2010-07-14 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
From my limited perspective and understanding dev wants it in game layer on a gamble. Good Luck ?? Explain please; I'm not even 100% sure what you're saying, let alone why. I would imagine that if someone wanted an OS to do gaming on, and they didn't want any of the more obvious

Re: [osol-discuss] warning about mail on this list

2010-07-12 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Yes, Erik. But few users are old grey beards like us that are comfortable with listserver and push discussion. The newer generation interfaces w/everything via the browser, e.g. witness web 2.0, so the reality of the matter is that the majority of posts come via Jive interface. And as in

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Since Oracle just reverted the name of Sun Java System Web Server to one of its original names, iPlanet Web Server, seems if anything they're trying to preserve the old planetary marketing names for Sun products... If that actually happened, that demonstrates that while Oracle may do better

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
If anything, at least iPlanet Web Server is much easier to say, and rolls off the tongue better than Sun Java System Web Server. Plus, I took an eCommerce class for iPlanet at a SUN education training center in Dallas years ago. Insofar as this is simply undoing the damage from the last

Re: [osol-discuss] setting a second permanent loopback interface

2010-07-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
i have created an additional loopback interface for denying ARP reply for a certain ip, here are the commands i have run: ifconfig lo0:1 plumb ifconfig lo0:1 x.x.x.x -arp netmask 255.255.255.255 up secondly i need to make it permanent , so i tried the following to insert into the

Re: [osol-discuss] I think Oracle needs a new name for [Open]Solaris ..

2010-07-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Calum Benson calum.ben...@oracle.com wrote: It certainly happened, here's the latest mapping of old Sun names to new Oracle names: http://www.oracle.com/us/sun/sun-products-map-075562. html I'm not a great fan of some of them, but Oracle does at least have a rather better history

Re: [osol-discuss] Multithreading X

2010-07-07 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
hwc. Hardware cursor movement on Xsun was handled inside the kernel driver, offloading some of the work from the X process. hwc did improve the interactive feel of the desktop, even if part of it was only aesthetic. Yes, I appreciate that on SPARCs with suitable hardware running Xsun. One

Re: [osol-discuss] So who is ready to be let down?

2010-07-06 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Nothing is perfect. You can't expect anything free or commercial to be perfect. But if you have a support contract and something goes wrong, you can demand that they address your issue. Unlike a free product ... If something goes wrong, you have to dig into it yourself, and if you

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris/Opensolaris, for a Server, or Desktop?

2010-07-06 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
So now, the reasons why I think solaris/opensolaris are well suited to be servers and not so much as desktops: gnome etc, the gui of opensolaris is no better at task switching and application management than windows XP was. This is obsolete compared to aero, aqua, or compiz. (win7, osx,

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris/Opensolaris, for a Server, or Desktop?

2010-07-06 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
Of course, Solaris is promoted as desktop. Look at SRSS solutions. Terminal servers should be good desktops, otherwise why should I use it? It's silly to use Solaris just to connect user to remote Windows Terminal Server. If I wanted to do it I could use Windows Terminal Server and RDP

Re: [osol-discuss] Solaris/Opensolaris, for a Server, or Desktop?

2010-07-06 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
So now, the reasons why I think solaris/opensolaris are well suited to be servers and not so much as desktops: gnome etc, the gui of opensolaris is no better at task switching and application management than windows XP was. This is obsolete compared to aero, aqua, or compiz. (win7, osx,

Re: [osol-discuss] Where is OpenSolaris 2010 release?

2010-07-06 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
To a database vendor, everything either looks like a database, or a place to run one, or something that interfaces with one? Ptui. I hope they're not that stupid. AFAIK, MS played around with the notion of a database-based filesystem, but never got it out the door. IBM has played around with

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