ess submissions from non-infrastructure folks for this or
any other community-change-event.
As an example, I sent
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=6569
to start working on the community demotion problem. The next step for
that process is for it to get some propos
* Stephen Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-16 14:19]:
> My concern here was more connected with the fact that these
> "grandfathered" aliases exist and overlap (to whatever degree). I
> think I would like to hear about how to eventually close some of the
>
nt)
> We want to create a forum which is 100% purely technical in nature.
as being substantially distinct from, although perhaps smaller than,
the future contributors to a specific release from the ON community.
That is, it feels like a subset.
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aspect of that discussion really suggests that one community
should propose its existence based on the subsumption of others.
I certainly don't think that that's a suitable mechanism for the
alleged proliferation problem.
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for
help in getting your fix integrated.
Alternatively, you could join one of the projects or communities
working in an area you find technically interesting. The more
experienced developers in those groups may have ideas for introductory
work in the area.
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n build (for ON) was
to enable the use of such tools easily; the tools-gcc (on the general
tools-discuss list) would be a good place to discuss further. I know
I've looked at smatch.sf.net as one interesting utility of this
kind...
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gt; Project Name:
> loficc [lofi compression & cryptography support ]
>
> Project Description:
>
> Add compression and encryption support to lofi(7d) and lofiadm(1m).
>
> Project alias: yes please <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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d to provide resource isolation for zones
as well...
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; if it gets approved.
>
> If it had to belong to one community, I think DTrace would be more
> appropriate.
Happily, there are no such restrictions; a project can be endorsed by
multiple communities (or none).
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nable--I'm just poking around.)
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CVS paths to that portion, or will we see this feature proposed on
opensolaris-{code,rfe} soon?
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ounting.
>
> This is intended as an umbrella project under which to explore, discuss,
> design, and implement resource management related features. Large
> technical efforts might generate separate projects.
I'll second this proposal: I like resource management (and you
sho
may not be identical to that
expended or committed to the development repository.
At present, I do not believe the other distributions are maintaining
patch repositories against their previous releases, so this notion of
backports is specific to Solaris. It is very possible that thos
ft hand nav bar has links to the various pages that each project
or community provides.)
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any community is convinced that the
project is "worthwhile" in their judgment.
> So, we want to change this proposal from a community to a project.
Second? (Pat is fine.)
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If you wish to have a project, just say so, and have someone (from the
team) second the proposal.
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r--perhaps you have additional details
about why this community is distinct from, say, the networking or
sysadmin communities that might help a CAB sponsor see the
contribution the proposed community's discussion would make.
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ly-acquired StarDivision. (Sun
historians should feel free to correct me.)
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se.
That said, if you have a link for the "Community Links" page, please
submit it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since there was no wiki
section on that page, I've added the genunix and wikicities wikis in a
new subsection of the Communities and Sites section.
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* Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02-08 12:41]:
> Stephen Hahn wrote:
> > I also wonder if you should propose a modern-cmds project (since folks
> > have complained about other specific "old versions") with ksh being
> > the first topic.
>
&g
* Roland Mainz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02-07 17:30]:
> - enhancement of Solaris tools to use libshell instead of homegrown
> commandline parsers (like mdb, zfs, xauth etc.)
> - replacement of duplicate ksh versions in various Sun products with
> libshell.so (which is ksh93 as a shared library), i
when it's released in the near
> future, as well as other packaging and installation projects.
Is this then the "packaging and installation" community? (The
currently proposed name is pretty specific...)
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art an OpenSolaris project, as
Sun probably has a program for everything...
If you believe the current project proposal process is insufficiently
heavyweight or lacks controlling input from potentially related
communities, please comment to that effect on
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http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=4945&tstart=0
(which, I note, mentions a zfs-Samba combination in the thread) and
then either consensus, including CAB assent, or criticism will
emerge.
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* Darren J Moffat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-12 03:35]:
> On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 10:22, Alan DuBoff wrote:
> > On Wednesday 11 January 2006 09:58 am, Mark Sweeney wrote:
> I see communities as being the long term high level thing and projects
> being the shorter term or smaller scope things.
>
>
id not had any interest in such a work.
Much has changed between then and now; maybe sending that document to
this alias might have more effect (since the question about kinds of
impact has been posed and the document may answer it fully) than the
previous submission?
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nity clusters in the future, we will revisit this idea.
Thanks Al and Nils. Now that some consensus has been reached, the
BrandZ community will be created. Community leads can make the
decision to make the community visible when their content is ready.
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being pursued in the near term.
As a side note, we'll have Projects hosting support in a few weeks or
less, so technical efforts that want to start smaller can do so
without seeking wider approval.
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tstart=0
Have a look; join tools-discuss (or use the forums); send your
feedback.
(And, if you've built GHC for Solaris x86, please let me know.)
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urrently calls home.)
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Thanks to the individuals and teams involved; we are of course still
working to a source release of these components.
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th little effort, the medium term payoff is
substantial. (Plus, since there will be a stigma associated with each
/closed integration, the long term potential benefit is very great.)
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* Matthew Simmons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-08 09:53]:
> >>>>> "SH" == Stephen Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> SH> As as additional comment, "marketing names" are associated with
> SH> distributions and not the
red across the community.
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n
successfully published their code last week; other consolidations are
getting close to releasing their trees as well.
As always, please share your concerns; I am happy to receive them
privately or on the list.
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hem.
I will check on our status; I know that we have been through the
source files, and closing in on how to get the package tools published
(i.e. in one delivery or two, with binaries first).
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* Adam Leventhal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-03 09:36]:
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 09:06:34AM -0800, Stephen Hahn wrote:
> > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-11-03 08:46]:
> > >
> > > >On Wed, 2 Nov 2005, Adam Leventhal wrote:
> >
read, this
is the "immigrants" community. Or is it "linux-immigrants" still?
Adam?
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the coming week. (It may already have been fixed... yep, appears so.)
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ck on whether categories have been added to bugs.sun.com.
(So I guess Aaron's stuck in the time machine's booth.) Linda's
complete 10/24 notes are available at
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=3069&tstart=0
for those interested.
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ty. (Since the ZFS team is recovering from potentially months
of sleep deprivation, I predict these steps might not take place for a
week or so.)
As Rich also notes, ZFS will show up here (and in the
special-for-OpenSolaris Community Express edition) before anywhere
else.
an entire x86 system in software will become
> realistic.
Neat. Would you be interested in a Virtualization community, with
your kind of work, Zones, Xen, and some other projects all discussing
common issues?
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* mnikhil m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-10-06 12:00]:
> I am thinking of writing some custon smfs ..in this regard, can someone
> please point me to quick and relevant SMF tutorials on open solaris..
See the links off
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/smf/
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consolidation wants distributed SCM, then it has to wait for an
evaluation phase to complete, and then for the implementation of site
support. Thus, migration issues can only be currently engaged with by
consolidations that believe the centralized facility is sufficient for
their needs.
Bas
roved version of
TeamWare) once identified.
I owe the alias the draft requirements for the distributed SCM, but
have a few other documents to finish first.
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to close some gaps in sponsor technical
coverage, so that code fixes submitted during this interim phase
don't get chilled waiting for a sponsor.
Feedback welcome. I'll read it all, but I can't promise replies to
all.
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LOW
> >DEVPROHIGH
> >Documentation: Open Source Solaris Man Pages HIGH
> >Install: Packaging Tools HIGH
> >Networking
> How is this different from what is already there?
This refers to the various SP
he need for opening the source associated with the version
shipped in Solaris is deemed to be small.
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taking patches from community
members, so perhaps "making the project useless" is too strong a
phrase here.
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sites for download.
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* Steve Lau blogged about the most recent drop:
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s, or even
random speculation.
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* Simon Phipps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-16 18:02]:
> On Aug 10, 2005, at 01:29, Stephen Hahn wrote:
> >
> > With all these +1's flying about, I thought I should ask if CAB
> > member cares to spare a second +1 for Approachability? (We're
> > i
nd we revisited
some of the current communities and converted them to projects), would
that support the specialized conversations people want to have, while
preserving the communities as the decision-making bodies over larger
products and aspects?
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With all these +1's flying about, I thought I should ask if CAB
member cares to spare a second +1 for Approachability? (We're
interested in making things "just work right" on all kinds of
platforms.)
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* Al Hopper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-02 23:21]:
> On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Stephen Hahn wrote:
>
> >This message proposes the creation of an Approachability community
> >for OpenSolaris. Please discuss.
>
> +1
>
> But you would probably need a
* Tao Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-08-02 19:16]:
> On 8/2/05, Stephen Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > One of the areas we've been working on after Solaris 10 has been
> > labelled "approachability"--a rather vague term for "eliminating
> >
g resource
management "predictability engineering", so I've been partial to
approachability engineering as the discipline encompassing this set of
work.
Plus KISO doesn't have nearly the same punch.
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r just join in. Thus:
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This message proposes the creation of an Approachability community
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need to have a
> I18N in Potuguese pt_PT language.
> So, what do i need to do and what steps should i make.
Visit the I18N and L10N community:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/int_localization/
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