Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-31 Thread Orvar Korvar
There are lots of FUD, mainly from the IBM camp. They try to spread FUD that Oracle is killing of SPARC, OpenSolaris, Solaris and what not. It is hard to defend against this massive FUD. But we will do our best. :o) -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-31 Thread Peter Jones
I am hoping that the forthcoming release will be an important demonstration of capability for the community and the status of opensolaris in the eyes of the world. Clearly there is a considerable group of potential users out there waiting for opensolaris to come of age (meet their requirements)

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-31 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
HAHA... Slashdot is at it again. I quote the website... rubycodez writes Oracle, having acquired Sun Microsystems, including its Unix, will no longer give away free Solaris licenses. Oracle also states that some features of its Oracle Solaris will not appear in OpenSolaris, which means

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-31 Thread Roger Savard
I stopped reading slashdot a year ago, and I could not feel any better now. No more BSD, Open/Solaris bashing. I've been a long time FreeBSD (386BSD,Freebsd) adopter and a long time SunOS, Solaris admin and the main reason I switched to Osol was getting closer to IPS, ZFS, CIFS and solaris on

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-31 Thread bsd
If the quote you printed is accurate ...some features of its Oracle Solaris will not appear in OpenSolaris... is right, then don't you have it wrong when you say that was Sun's position? I thought OpenSolaris was the development branch of Solaris, and new technologies, such as Crossbow, may

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-31 Thread Gary Gendel
They never said that it would be the development platform for all new technologies. Solaris was always the commercial component and as such would have technologies that would never be in OpenSolaris. I can think of a few examples already in their storage product line. Why would Oracle have

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-31 Thread Matthias Pfützner
You are mixing things... There is Solaris (10, currently), which in that past was forked, and that new fork was the basis, of what became OpenSolaris (the OpenSource side). From that development fork, some FEATURES are BACKPORTED into Solaris 10. From that development fork, also BINARY

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-31 Thread Erik Trimble
bsd wrote: If the quote you printed is accurate ...some features of its Oracle Solaris will not appear in OpenSolaris... is right, then don't you have it wrong when you say that was Sun's position? I thought OpenSolaris was the development branch of Solaris, and new technologies, such as

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-31 Thread Joerg Schilling
bsd mascotgr...@yahoo.com wrote: Why would Oracle have a development team for Solaris independent of OpenSolaris, when OpenSolaris is supposed to be the development branch for new technologies that will be adopted into Solaris? Having a common development path for OpenSolaris and what

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-31 Thread Matthias Pfützner
I guess, it has now been proven many times, that bsd is trying to spread FUD! Can we now start to simply ignore him? It's getting boring to repeat and repeat again, that he's simply wrong... Just as an addition, w.r.t. the support option for OpenSolaris, read Jörg Möllenkamp's blog at:

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-30 Thread Mike La Spina
Hi Matt, It's so nice to hear the sound of reason. I can only say good things about the progress of OpenSolaris thus far and the gift we have of using it freely. So let's be optimistic which helps create an even better OpenSolaris product and Community. Thanks, Mike http://blog.laspina.ca/

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-30 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
Appreciated! Hopefully folks can muster up the strength to be patient, become resilient to the FUD and look forward to a bright future! Matt -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-30 Thread bsd
Out of curiosity, since OpenSolaris is mostly open binary licenses and not source code, what would happen if Oracle rescinded those licenses? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-30 Thread Svein Skogen
On 30.03.2010 20:44, Giovanni Tirloni wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:35 PM, bsd mascotgr...@yahoo.com mailto:mascotgr...@yahoo.com wrote: Out of curiosity, since OpenSolaris is mostly open binary licenses and not source code, what would happen if Oracle rescinded those

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-30 Thread Jason King
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Svein Skogen sv...@stillbilde.net wrote: On 30.03.2010 20:44, Giovanni Tirloni wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:35 PM, bsd mascotgr...@yahoo.com mailto:mascotgr...@yahoo.com wrote:     Out of curiosity, since OpenSolaris is mostly open binary licenses     and

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-30 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
Yeah... replacing the legally encumbered bits over time isn't that much of a stretch. What matters is that the kernel is open-source (which is the heart of the OS and is the part that makes it stand out apart from Linux and BSD). Matt -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-29 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
Hello all: As of late, I have begun to notice increasing levels of pessimism and grumbling amongst users (and former users) of OpenSolaris. As a glasses half-full type, I would like to remind everyone that whining and complaining about petty issues such as a delayed release for OpenSolaris

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-29 Thread Paul Gress
On 03/29/10 12:07 PM, Matthew Nawrocki wrote: Hello all: As of late, I have begun to notice increasing levels of pessimism and grumbling amongst users (and former users) of OpenSolaris. As a glasses half-full type, I would like to remind everyone that whining and complaining about petty

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-29 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
Exactly! And there is nothing holding Oracle back from adopting the Red Hat / Fedora model of doing business. I actually would be surprised if Oracle did anything to kill OpenSolaris as it would be a tremendous blow for public relations. :) Matt -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-29 Thread Edward Martinez
Hello all: As of late, I have begun to notice increasing levels of pessimism and grumbling amongst users (and former users) of OpenSolaris. As a glasses half-full type, I would like to remind everyone that whining and complaining about petty issues such as a delayed release for

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-29 Thread Matthew Nawrocki
It could be that too many nerds and geeks believe in the slashdot god and panicked when slashdot announced the possible demise of OpenSolaris. Seriously people? You trust a source that is based on user contributions? :p Matt -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-29 Thread Ben
I agree overall. My only concern is that if the community say something (e.g. Next stable release is 2010.02) that should be kept to as much as possible and any delays should be frequently communicated to the community. I've done my best to promote OpenSolaris where I am because I love the

Re: [osol-discuss] A statement for defending OpenSolaris

2010-03-29 Thread Peter Jones
I have recently been testing the competition and always come back to opensolaris as a project which is professionally run and structured.I understand that we operate in a 'now' society but the development of a quality OS takes lots of time and hardwork.I am very encouraged by the progress this