Re: [osol-discuss] Debian with OpenSolaris: a broken dream

2005-07-25 Thread Joerg Schilling
Shawn Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 7/22/05, Alvaro Lopez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The biggest CDDL problem is that it includes a choice-of-venue: «The problem with choice of venue clauses is that anyone who accepts the license must also accept the burden of defending

Re: [osol-discuss] Debian with OpenSolaris: a broken dream

2005-07-25 Thread Alvaro Lopez Ortega
Glynn Foster wrote: So, let us not get so caught up in the numbers game. I'd just like to see a Companion DVD worth of optional open source software comparable to what you get when buying a Linux/FreeBSD at a computer store or buy it from Sun (with those Ultra 3 laptops!!!). Hey, 1K-3K packages

Re: [osol-discuss] Debian with OpenSolaris: a broken dream

2005-07-25 Thread Alvaro Lopez Ortega
Joerg Schilling wrote: If you look closely, there are a few paragraphs about taking kernels and building the Debian OS around those kernels (Debian GNU/OpenSolaris = Solaris kernel with Debian infrastructure (OS w/ported apps) built around it). I think the NetBSD people are doing something

Re: [osol-discuss] Debian with OpenSolaris: a broken dream

2005-07-25 Thread Eric Boutilier
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005, Alvaro Lopez Ortega wrote: Glynn Foster wrote: [...] I'm just pointing out, that the average user will probably not even use close to 3000 packages - if we can focus on a good set of packages, and maintain with a repository model it seems like a better

Re: [osol-discuss] Debian with OpenSolaris: a broken dream

2005-07-25 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, A 'DVD worth' doesn't necessarily mean it has to be the only medium. I'm just pointing out, that the average user will probably not even use close to 3000 packages - if we can focus on a good set of packages, and maintain with a repository model it seems like a better

Re: [osol-discuss] Debian with OpenSolaris: a broken dream

2005-07-24 Thread Glynn Foster
So, let us not get so caught up in the numbers game. I'd just like to see a Companion DVD worth of optional open source software comparable to what you get when buying a Linux/FreeBSD at a computer store or buy it from Sun (with those Ultra 3 laptops!!!). Hey, 1K-3K packages is good enough

Re: [osol-discuss] Debian with OpenSolaris: a broken dream

2005-07-22 Thread Chris Ricker
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Dragan Cvetkovic wrote: Alvaro, you really need to explain this all better, especially the connection between OpenSolaris and other architectures. E.g. programs like pstack, pmap, pldd and others dealing with /proc stuff are and have been often life-savers for me and they

Re: [osol-discuss] Debian with OpenSolaris: a broken dream

2005-07-22 Thread Dragan Cvetkovic
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Chris Ricker wrote: On Fri, 22 Jul 2005, Dragan Cvetkovic wrote: Alvaro, you really need to explain this all better, especially the connection between OpenSolaris and other architectures. E.g. programs like pstack, pmap, pldd and others dealing with /proc stuff are and

Re: [osol-discuss] Debian with OpenSolaris: a broken dream

2005-07-22 Thread Alvaro Lopez Ortega
Dragan Cvetkovic wrote: The idea was to use as much OpenSolaris software as possible. Solaris 10 included about 200 Free Software programs. Debian includes about 18,000. So now, try to imagine something like Solaris 10 with 18,000 packages available... :-) Alvaro, I have been using

Re: [osol-discuss] Debian with OpenSolaris: a broken dream

2005-07-22 Thread ken mays
--- Alvaro Lopez Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dragan Cvetkovic wrote: The idea was to use as much OpenSolaris software as possible. Solaris 10 included about 200 Free Software programs. Debian includes about 18,000. So now, try to imagine something like Solaris 10