Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-14 Thread Gavin Maltby
Hi, On 11/13/07 00:53, UNIX admin wrote: RAS is great, impressive stuff, but it is NOT worth that kind of money! For the price of one RAS system, I can build several cheapo systems and cluster them. So what if one of those cheapo systems dies? Throw it out of the window, it's just one of man

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread John Sonnenschein
That's actually a really good idea, I didn't know Xen worked on itanium2 On 12-Nov-07, at 2:33 PM, Nils Nieuwejaar wrote: > I think this is a bit nuts, but if you really want to go down that > path... > > You might want to look at Xen. The hypervisor has been ported to > IA64 and > Solaris h

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread UNIX admin
> I don't think it's really fair to compare commodity > hardware (mostly > x86 based) and high-end chips (SPARC, IA64, Power, > ) on price alone. Hey, life isn't fair! > This is nicely illustrated by RAS characteristics of > these chips - the high-end > hips are designed with data integrity

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread Nils Nieuwejaar
I think this is a bit nuts, but if you really want to go down that path... You might want to look at Xen. The hypervisor has been ported to IA64 and Solaris has been ported to the hypervisor. There would still be a huge amount of work to do, but running Xen instead of bare metal might make the t

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >The project will not have a chance. The Solaris/IA64 project was > >canceled by the board after Intel announced that IA64 will replace > >SPARC and NOTHING will reverse that decision, not even the new > >Intel-Sun alliance. Even without the history I'd be a tough job

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread Casper . Dik
>The project will not have a chance. The Solaris/IA64 project was >canceled by the board after Intel announced that IA64 will replace >SPARC and NOTHING will reverse that decision, not even the new >Intel-Sun alliance. Even without the history I'd be a tough job to get >the old Solaris/IA64 source

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread John Sonnenschein
On 12-Nov-07, at 9:06 AM, Holger Berger wrote: > On Nov 12, 2007 6:01 PM, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 12/11/2007, Holger Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Nov 11, 2007 3:36 AM, John Sonnenschein <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > wrote: Is anyone other than myself interested

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread Shawn Walker
On 12/11/2007, Holger Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 12, 2007 6:01 PM, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 12/11/2007, Holger Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 11, 2007 3:36 AM, John Sonnenschein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Is anyone other than myself inte

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread Holger Berger
On Nov 12, 2007 6:01 PM, Shawn Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 12/11/2007, Holger Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2007 3:36 AM, John Sonnenschein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is anyone other than myself interested in seeing an IA64/Itanium port > > > of OpenSolaris? > >

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread Shawn Walker
On 12/11/2007, Holger Berger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 11, 2007 3:36 AM, John Sonnenschein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is anyone other than myself interested in seeing an IA64/Itanium port > > of OpenSolaris? > > > > My reasoning is that Solaris already runs on two of the 4 major > > e

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Holger Berger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The project will not have a chance. The Solaris/IA64 project was > canceled by the board after Intel announced that IA64 will replace > SPARC and NOTHING will reverse that decision, not even the new > Intel-Sun alliance. Even without the history I'd be

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread Holger Berger
On Nov 11, 2007 3:36 AM, John Sonnenschein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone other than myself interested in seeing an IA64/Itanium port > of OpenSolaris? > > My reasoning is that Solaris already runs on two of the 4 major > enterprise architectures (SPARC & x86/amd64) and a port to a third is

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
ken mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OpenSolaris on Itanium2 might be an interesting > project to pursue. > > Why not start on it and see where it leads?? Do you have the hardware? Do you have the expertise to create the low level stuff from the kernel? Jörg -- EMail:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (home

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread UNIX admin
> Do you think Sun, IBM, and HP would still be making > this hardware if > customers weren't still buying it? Eh-hem! Sun just made its first mainframe in history, the M-series. IBM, that's a crooked deal if I ever saw one: a bigwig head honcho from IBM sales gets a job in my firm, and suddenly

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread Stewart, David C
Amen to that. Add Hierarchical Storage I thought it ironic that the Linux world is spending this decade adding the "business hardening" that we put into Unix in the late 80s and early 90s. >From: Brandorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Also another interesting trend in Enterprise IT is that most of

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-12 Thread Gavin Maltby
UNIX admin wrote: One could say the same about Solaris/SPARC, or AIX/POWER Oh, absolutely! SPARC and POWER are way too overpriced, which is just total and complete BS, not to mention that it angers the hell out of customers like me! And then Sun wonders WHY Solaris and SPARC can't pick up cri

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-11 Thread John Sonnenschein
On 11-Nov-07, at 1:59 PM, Brandorr wrote: > On Nov 11, 2007 4:52 PM, Brandorr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Nov 11, 2007 4:30 PM, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 11, 2007 2:07 PM, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Is anyone other than myself interested in seei

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-11 Thread ken mays
OpenSolaris on Itanium2 might be an interesting project to pursue. Why not start on it and see where it leads?? ~ Ken __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-11 Thread Brandorr
On Nov 11, 2007 4:52 PM, Brandorr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 11, 2007 4:30 PM, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 11, 2007 2:07 PM, UNIX admin > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Is anyone other than myself interested in seeing > > > an > > > > > IA64/Itanium port >

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-11 Thread Brandorr
On Nov 11, 2007 4:30 PM, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Nov 11, 2007 2:07 PM, UNIX admin > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Is anyone other than myself interested in seeing > > an > > > > IA64/Itanium port > > > > of OpenSolaris? > > > > > > Would that be cool? Why, yes it would!

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-11 Thread UNIX admin
> > who's running IA64? Only two firms, sgi and hp. > > And Bull, Fujitsu, Hitachi, NEC, UNISYS, and a gamut > of small beige- > box server vendors Come on. That's such a small niche market. We're talking obscure here. I should know, obscure hardware like that (for example the rx Integrity, and

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-11 Thread UNIX admin
> They have already actually, I'm not sure how much > progress was made, > but the project was scrapped. If Sun's willing to > lawyer a little bit > and see if it's legally possible for them to disclose > the code, it may > be a possibility... It would be a possibility once OpenSolaris gains

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-11 Thread UNIX admin
> On Nov 11, 2007 2:07 PM, UNIX admin > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Is anyone other than myself interested in seeing > an > > > IA64/Itanium port > > > of OpenSolaris? > > > > Would that be cool? Why, yes it would! > > > > Would it be a justifiable return on investment? No. > > > > Here's the

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-11 Thread Brandorr
On Nov 11, 2007 2:07 PM, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is anyone other than myself interested in seeing an > > IA64/Itanium port > > of OpenSolaris? > > Would that be cool? Why, yes it would! > > Would it be a justifiable return on investment? No. > > Here's the deal: > > who's running

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-11 Thread John Sonnenschein
They have already actually, I'm not sure how much progress was made, but the project was scrapped. If Sun's willing to lawyer a little bit and see if it's legally possible for them to disclose the code, it may be a possibility... Sun types, likelyhood of this happening? On 11-Nov-07, at 11:

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-11 Thread andrewk9
I would be very surprised if Sun put any effort into porting Solaris to Itanium. This doesn't prevent anyone else from trying though. Andrew. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolar

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-11 Thread John Sonnenschein
On 11-Nov-07, at 11:07 AM, UNIX admin wrote: >> Is anyone other than myself interested in seeing an >> IA64/Itanium port >> of OpenSolaris? > > Would that be cool? Why, yes it would! > > Would it be a justifiable return on investment? No. > > Here's the deal: > > who's running IA64? Only two fir

Re: [osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-11 Thread UNIX admin
> Is anyone other than myself interested in seeing an > IA64/Itanium port > of OpenSolaris? Would that be cool? Why, yes it would! Would it be a justifiable return on investment? No. Here's the deal: who's running IA64? Only two firms, sgi and hp. hp's servers are WAY TOO EXPENSIVE to buy j

[osol-discuss] IA64laris, anyone ? (an RFC)

2007-11-10 Thread John Sonnenschein
Is anyone other than myself interested in seeing an IA64/Itanium port of OpenSolaris? My reasoning is that Solaris already runs on two of the 4 major enterprise architectures (SPARC & x86/amd64) and a port to a third is making strides recently ( I'm referring to the ppc32 port ). Since Sun