Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-28 Thread Anon Y Mous
Has anybody heard of an old project that Oracle and Sun worked together on that was called Raw Iron: http://news.cnet.com/Oracles-Raw-Iron-plan-not-fully-forged/2100-1001_3-219129.html I wonder if we're going to get a similar Oracle-Solaris powered, pre-tuned and pre-configured server

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-28 Thread Che Kristo
I am sure they will do such things...much like the existing appliance they have done with HP but this time a totally in-house affair! On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Anon Y Mous music_anal...@yahoo.comwrote: Has anybody heard of an old project that Oracle and Sun worked together on that was

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-26 Thread Anon Y Mous
Although we don't use it in any of the data centers that I've worked at (we either pay the exhorbitant, over-priced Red Hat support fees or use CentOS free of charge), I suspect that Oracle's Unbreakable Enterprise Linux is probably doing a lot better than people around here give it credit for

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-22 Thread Anon Y Mous
OReilly Media just did this parody article making fun of SJV Nichols's Computer World article: Is Oracle getting ready to kill Unbreakable Linux? http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/07/is-oracle-getting-ready-to-kil.html My guess is neither article is really right. Unbreakable Linux can't be

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-20 Thread Anon Y Mous
This article (from the same guy who wrote the glowing pro-Sun Rock Processor Transactional Memory article I posted in another discuss thread) is one of the best antidotes I have yet read to Steven J Vaughan Nichols's retarded anti-Solaris Computer World article. Instead of countering Vaughn's

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-20 Thread Anon Y Mous
Ted Dziuba (the author with the potty mouth in the above article) used to work as a programmer / engineer / mathematician for Google a few years back, just in case some of you were wondering what rock this guy has been hiding under for the last few years or so. Now I guess he writes columns for

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-17 Thread UNIX admin
(Though unlike the other part of your suggestion, we're not going to maintain a separate install packaging system for Solaris, but will replace Solaris Express with the OpenSolaris installer packaging.) That's lovely; you (plural) will phase out a stable packaging subsystem in favor of

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-17 Thread Glynn Foster
On 17/07/2009, at 12:05 PM, UNIX admin wrote: (Though unlike the other part of your suggestion, we're not going to maintain a separate install packaging system for Solaris, but will replace Solaris Express with the OpenSolaris installer packaging.) That's lovely; you (plural) will phase

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-17 Thread Alan Coopersmith
UNIX admin wrote: I'd just like someone to tell me just how I'm supposed to remove my Oracle database with an IPS package. And if anyone writes SMF, then I'd like to know just how exactly will I run an SMF method to remove a database, when IPS doesn't allow scripting. By using the IPS

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-14 Thread david
Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris? Nope. If Oracle means to kill OpenSolaris, what could they actually do? They could fire all the Solaris people and stop all corporate funding, sure but are they going to do that, no. The dude who wrote that article clearly is a big IBM fan and

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-14 Thread Martin Bochnig
On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:41 AM, Amitava Duttaamit...@computer.org wrote: Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris? asks Steven J Vaughan Nichols in ComputerWorld. People outside of IT seldom think of Oracle as a Linux company, but it is. Not only does Oracle encourage its customers to

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-14 Thread Octave Orgeron
...@hotmail.com To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:54:03 AM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris? Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris? Nope. If Oracle means to kill OpenSolaris, what could they actually do? They could fire all

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-14 Thread Orvar Korvar
Also, Ellisson said something about Oracle having more Solaris installations than Linux installations. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-14 Thread Octave Orgeron
, July 14, 2009 9:23:32 AM Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris? Also, Ellisson said something about Oracle having more Solaris installations than Linux installations. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-14 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Anon Y Mous wrote: Sun / Oracle should just do the exact same thing that Red Hat does with Linux. Let's see here. Red Hat supports two distributions that are based on the same code: Fedora is a rapidly changing community based distribution that is provided free of charge and

[osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-13 Thread Amitava Dutta
Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris? asks Steven J Vaughan Nichols in ComputerWorld. People outside of IT seldom think of Oracle as a Linux company, but it is. Not only does Oracle encourage its customers to use its own house-brand clone of RHEL (Red Hat Enterprise Linux), Oracle

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-13 Thread Che Kristo
Don't feed the trolls! Ben Rockwood has a level headed reply to SJVN's uninformed ranting: http://cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=1047 On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Amitava Dutta amit...@computer.orgwrote: Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris? asks Steven J Vaughan Nichols

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-13 Thread Bruno Silva
from my point of view, they are not going to kill solaris neither opensolaris, but get all the nice functionalities to build a real OS, and not just copy RHEL, that for sure, they know what people are talking about this copy, and for sure they won't be stand doing nothing. For me the chances to

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-13 Thread Dave Koelmeyer
Oh look, another tech journalist with zero facts who instead dreams up a sensationalist story to draw hits to his site because he's lonely and CW need the advertising dollars. Yawn. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-13 Thread Anon Y Mous
Sun / Oracle should just do the exact same thing that Red Hat does with Linux. Let's see here. Red Hat supports two distributions that are based on the same code: Fedora is a rapidly changing community based distribution that is provided free of charge and incorporates the newest bits for

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-13 Thread Anon Y Mous
Also, if you read what Larry Ellison says here: http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9131829/Oracle_s_Sun_buy_Ellison_praises_Solaris_thumbs_nose_at_IBM he says the following: The Solaris operating system is by far the best Unix technology available in the market, Now, as far as I know,

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-13 Thread Anon Y Mous
Here's another article that I think hints at why Larry wanted to buy Sun: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10173701-16.html -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-13 Thread Anon Y Mous
If you read down a little bit in the article, you'll see a part where it says: Oracle also reserves the right to stop supporting its Linux customers at any time (PDF): It may become necessary as a part of Oracle's support life cycle to desupport certain Enterprise Linux and Oracle VM program

Re: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting ready to kill OpenSolaris?

2009-07-13 Thread Octave Orgeron
-Mail: unixcons...@yahoo.com *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* - Original Message From: Amitava Dutta amit...@computer.org To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:41:26 PM Subject: [osol-discuss] Is Oracle getting