Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-20 Thread Norm Jacobs
Boyd Adamson wrote: joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) writes: Dennis Clarke wrote: [..] I think /opt/schily/bin/star or even the /opt/csw/bin/star is cool for me and some others "in the know" but most folks will expect /usr/bin/star or similar.

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-20 Thread Boyd Adamson
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) writes: > Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> [..] > >> I think /opt/schily/bin/star or even the /opt/csw/bin/star is cool for me >> and some others "in the know" but most folks will expect /usr/bin/star or >> similar. > > BTS: in my last mail I fogot t

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-18 Thread ken mays
--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Alan Coopersmith wrote: > From: Alan Coopersmith > Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions] > To: "Joerg Schilling" > Cc: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org > Date: Friday, December 18, 2009, 10:08 AM > Joerg Schilling

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-18 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Alan Coopersmith wrote: > >>> The question would be how to call a just compiled "smake" later in the >>> autmated build process from another package. >> If your spec file for smake installs it as /usr/bin/smake, then the spec >> file for star just calls "/usr/bin/smake",

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-18 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> > BTW: The latest version is always the best version. >> > >> > Jörg >> >> Thank you, I'll pull the most recent star/smake/cdrecord sources and get >> it in the next release batch along with about a hundred other items. >> Would be nice if you were to do that task of c

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dennis Clarke wrote: > > BTW: The latest version is always the best version. > > > > Jörg > > Thank you, I'll pull the most recent star/smake/cdrecord sources and get > it in the next release batch along with about a hundred other items. > Would be nice if you were to do that task of course, hin

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: > there is a part of the spec file where you can specify which packages > are required to compile your package > it's called buildrequires. what else do you need? you can even use the > spec file you were given as an example. > what's wrong with just /usr/bin/star ?

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-18 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan Coopersmith wrote: > > The question would be how to call a just compiled "smake" later in the > > autmated build process from another package. > > If your spec file for smake installs it as /usr/bin/smake, then the spec > file for star just calls "/usr/bin/smake", provided you listed it in

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Dennis Clarke wrote: > >> Also, what rev is this ? I have been running this for a while and it >> rocks : >> >> $ /opt/schily/bin/star --version >> star: star 1.5a89 (i386-pc-solaris2.8) > > Why don't you use the recent version. Blastwave has a version 1.5 but it > is > really the 1.5.1 as I j

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Robert Milkowski
On 17/12/2009 23:07, Joerg Schilling wrote: ken mays wrote: Ref: http://jucr.opensolaris.org/files/3117/7545/specs/star.spec It is most unlikely that this will create a useful result. well, it is a start. I doubt there should be any big issues in making it build under the SJ.

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
there is a part of the spec file where you can specify which packages are required to compile your package it's called buildrequires. what else do you need? you can even use the spec file you were given as an example. what's wrong with just /usr/bin/star ? nacho On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:34 PM,

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: > >> perhaps you should integrate smake into jucr first and then have the >> spec file for star BuildRequire it? and while you're at it, you can >> place it in /usr where it should be? > > Well, smake compiles without the need for a "make" p

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ignacio Marambio Catán wrote: > perhaps you should integrate smake into jucr first and then have the > spec file for star BuildRequire it? and while you're at it, you can > place it in /usr where it should be? Well, smake compiles without the need for a "make" program as it first creates a boos

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
perhaps you should integrate smake into jucr first and then have the spec file for star BuildRequire it? and while you're at it, you can place it in /usr where it should be? nacho On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:07 PM, Joerg Schilling wrote: > ken mays wrote: > >> Ref: http://jucr.opensolaris.org/fil

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dennis Clarke wrote: > > > Ref: http://jucr.opensolaris.org/files/3117/7545/specs/star.spec > > > > Well, congrats on getting it into the SourceJuicer system and I think it > > is passing. > > > > Do we want star v1.5.1 version to review as the final spec?? > > Also, can we get that in /usr ? > >

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
ken mays wrote: > Ref: http://jucr.opensolaris.org/files/3117/7545/specs/star.spec It is most unlikely that this will create a useful result. Sun make does not support constructs like: make CC=something or similar as it does not forward command line macros to sub-makes. If it did, the line:

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Ref: http://jucr.opensolaris.org/files/3117/7545/specs/star.spec > > Well, congrats on getting it into the SourceJuicer system and I think it > is passing. > > Do we want star v1.5.1 version to review as the final spec?? Also, can we get that in /usr ? I think /opt/schily/bin/star or even the

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread ken mays
ing > Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions] > To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org, mi...@task.gda.pl > Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 5:36 PM > Robert Milkowski > wrote: > > > As someone else has already mentioned - Joerg why > don't y

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Shawn Walker
Joerg Schilling wrote: Robert Milkowski wrote: As someone else has already mentioned - Joerg why don't you try to get it into /contrib repo via Source Juicer in the first place? IMHO this would be the fastest way to get it into Open Solaris. It would probably make it easier to get it promote

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
Robert Milkowski wrote: > As someone else has already mentioned - Joerg why don't you try to get > it into /contrib repo via Source Juicer in the first place? IMHO this > would be the fastest way to get it into Open Solaris. It would probably > make it easier to get it promoted later on to mai

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hi, As someone else has already mentioned - Joerg why don't you try to get it into /contrib repo via Source Juicer in the first place? IMHO this would be the fastest way to get it into Open Solaris. It would probably make it easier to get it promoted later on to main repo if needed. -- Rober

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hi, As someone else has already mentioned - Joerg why don't you try to get it into /contrib repo via Source Juicer in the first place? IMHO this would be the fastest way to get it into Open Solaris. It would probably make it easier to get it promoted later on to main repo if needed. -- Rober

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
ken mays wrote: > We don't. GNU tar is legacy. Your star is the answer, so let us get the > latest star version into the package repository! OK! > > > True. I think star handles file sizes over 200 > > terabytes as well. Right? > > > > ??? How do you get to this number and why do you ask at >

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread ken mays
--- On Thu, 12/17/09, Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > > I see absolutely no need for GNU tar. What > features are > > > unique to GNU tar that > > > "require" GNU tar? > > > > Well GNU tar is just a tool so 'requirements' and a > tool based on those requirements is not so much in equality. > Mos

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
ken mays wrote: > > I see absolutely no need for GNU tar. What features are > > unique to GNU tar that > > "require" GNU tar? > > Well GNU tar is just a tool so 'requirements' and a tool based on those > requirements is not so much in equality. Most FOSS developers utilizing > build management

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread ken mays
--- On Thu, 12/17/09, Joerg Schilling wrote: > From: Joerg Schilling > Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions] > To: opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org, maybird1...@yahoo.com > Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 6:28 AM > ken mays > wrote: > >

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
ken mays wrote: > > Dennis Clarke wrote: > > As a voice from the community I see star as a > > *need* and not just a want. It archive and extracts/packs just about > > anything. > > It is a want. A 'need' if nothing else existed which didn't serve similar > purposes. > This goes back to the 'ne

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-16 Thread Marion Hakanson
>Alan Coopersmith wrote: > >> Dennis Clarke wrote: >> > As a voice from the community I see star as a *need* and not just a want. >> > It archive and extracts/packs just about anything. >> >> Since none of Sun's paying customers have expressed such a requirement to >> Sun, it's going to be up to t

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-16 Thread ken mays
> Dennis Clarke wrote: > As a voice from the community I see star as a > *need* and not just a want. It archive and extracts/packs just about > anything. It is a want. A 'need' if nothing else existed which didn't serve similar purposes. This goes back to the 'need' for Sun tar, GNU tar, and now

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan Coopersmith wrote: > Dennis Clarke wrote: > > As a voice from the community I see star as a *need* and not just a want. > > It archive and extracts/packs just about anything. > > Since none of Sun's paying customers have expressed such a requirement to > Sun, it's going to be up to the commu

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-16 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan Coopersmith wrote: > >>> BTW: RFE 5007466 was closed, does this mean that star is now included in > >>> Solaris? > >> No, according to the bug database, it was closed due to lack of interest, > >> since no one from the community responded to the mail the responsible > >> manager sent trying

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-16 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Dennis Clarke wrote: > As a voice from the community I see star as a *need* and not just a want. > It archive and extracts/packs just about anything. Since none of Sun's paying customers have expressed such a requirement to Sun, it's going to be up to the community to do much of the work to satisf

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-16 Thread Dennis Clarke
> Joerg Schilling wrote: >> Alan Coopersmith wrote: >>> Joerg Schilling wrote: BTW: RFE 5007466 was closed, does this mean that star is now included in Solaris? >>> No, according to the bug database, it was closed due to lack of >>> interest, >>> since no one from the community res

Re: [osol-discuss] star [was: Some Why?-Questions]

2009-12-16 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> Joerg Schilling wrote: >>> BTW: RFE 5007466 was closed, does this mean that star is now included in >>> Solaris? >> No, according to the bug database, it was closed due to lack of interest, >> since no one from the community responded to the mai