RE: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-08 Thread Vic Abell
Josh, Rich, et al., On 1/5/07, Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Christoph Hellwig wrote: Note that lsof doesn't have to do kmem craling. For example on Linux it only uses proper procfs interfaces. As such proper interfaces seem to exist on Solaris as well

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Casper . Dik
Peter Tribble wrote: On 1/1/07, wb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a /tmp FS for swap, and a really big file crout* inside. The /tmp was 95% up. I decided to remove the crout file. The problem, is the /tmp is not decreasing, but still growing. How could I make it decrease?

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Roland Mainz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somehow I am wondering why Solaris doesn't ship lsof in /usr/sbin/ ... is this just noone had time yet or something else ? Wasn't there a blog where someone explained why lsof is a perfornance pig and should be avoided in favor of other tools? Jörg --

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Martin Bochnig
Joerg Schilling wrote: Roland Mainz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Somehow I am wondering why Solaris doesn't ship lsof in /usr/sbin/ ... is this just noone had time yet or something else ? Wasn't there a blog where someone explained why lsof is a perfornance pig and should be avoided in

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Martin Bochnig wrote: [ ... ] What I had seen is, that you apparently have to rebuild it for Solaris10 06/06, versions built for older releases don't work correctly under 06/06 anymore. But that's certainly not a reason, why SUNW couldn't ship it. Well, so what exactly

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Christoph Hellwig
On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 11:59:27AM +, Frank Hofmann wrote: On the other hand, the request for lsof in Solaris is anything but new, and the reference to pfiles, the mentioning that lsof does nasty digging in the kernel's intestines as a reply is neither, and the arguments that the output

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Frank Hofmann
On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Christoph Hellwig wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 11:59:27AM +, Frank Hofmann wrote: On the other hand, the request for lsof in Solaris is anything but new, and the reference to pfiles, the mentioning that lsof does nasty digging in the kernel's intestines as a reply is

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread James Carlson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No; it's something that we won't ship, ever because of the nature how lsof trawls for its events. That's not true. Though there are folks around who have expressed the never opinion, that does not represent the opinion of all of Solaris development. Our group has

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Casper . Dik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No; it's something that we won't ship, ever because of the nature how lsof trawls for its events. That's not true. +1 for a project to integrate the lsof command line interface. Design and implementation to be determined. ;-} Strange as it may seem, this is pretty

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Josh Hurst
On 1/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter Tribble wrote: On 1/1/07, wb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a /tmp FS for swap, and a really big file crout* inside. The /tmp was 95% up. I decided to remove the crout file. The problem, is the /tmp is not decreasing, but

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Josh Hurst
On 1/5/07, Frank Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Martin Bochnig wrote: I think Sun has to overcome both not invented here and the instinctive reject via not perfect, therefore not 'good enough' no matter what the users say, before lsof goes into mainstream Solaris. If

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Josh Hurst
On 1/5/07, Rich Teer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Christoph Hellwig wrote: Note that lsof doesn't have to do kmem craling. For example on Linux it only uses proper procfs interfaces. As such proper interfaces seem to exist on Solaris as well for use with pfiles it shouldn't

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Darren J Moffat
Josh Hurst wrote: On 1/5/07, Frank Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Martin Bochnig wrote: I think Sun has to overcome both not invented here and the instinctive reject via not perfect, therefore not 'good enough' no matter what the users say, before lsof goes into mainstream

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread James Carlson
Josh Hurst writes: On 1/5/07, Frank Hofmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Martin Bochnig wrote: I think Sun has to overcome both not invented here and the instinctive reject via not perfect, therefore not 'good enough' no matter what the users say, before lsof goes into

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Rich Teer
On Fri, 5 Jan 2007, Josh Hurst wrote: Vic's name is spelled 'Abell', two e- Whoops, my bad! Sorry Vic (I thought something didn't look quite right when I wrote that post)... -- Rich Teer, SCNA, SCSA, SCSECA, OpenSolaris CAB member . *

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Casper . Dik
No; it's something that we won't ship, ever because of the nature how lsof trawls for its events. You could send patches to fix lsfo if you do not like it's implementation :) You could check the source code and look for my name there. While I understand James' aversion against my comments, I

Re: Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-05 Thread Josh Hurst
On 1/5/07, Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just because /bin/sh isn't your shell of choice doesn't make it crappy. Really? Take 1: /bin/sh /dev/urandom Illegal Instruction (core dumped) Take 2-29: cat /var/adm/messages* | grep -F core.sh | sort Dec 10 11:09:41 fido genunix: [ID

Shipping lsof with Solaris ? / was: Re: [osol-discuss] problem with /tmp FS still up

2007-01-04 Thread Roland Mainz
Peter Tribble wrote: On 1/1/07, wb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a /tmp FS for swap, and a really big file crout* inside. The /tmp was 95% up. I decided to remove the crout file. The problem, is the /tmp is not decreasing, but still growing. How could I make it decrease?