Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Frank Hofmann - Solaris Sustaining
[ ... ] -xregs=%frameptr would seem to be the magic. Although it does apparently slow down performance. Has this been quantified ? I don't mean just function throughput benchmarks, but rather like the effect it has on something like specweb if I use HTTPS done via OpenSSL with/without

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 12:25 pm, Philip Brown wrote: Just the opposite. We finally found someone to step up to the plate and do the hard work, for free. James Lee is our official stable tree maintainer, and we've been doing very solid 'stable' releases for about 3 quarters now. This

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 12:31 pm, Philip Brown wrote: On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 06:10:31PM -0700, Alan DuBoff wrote: Sun has staff now to handle most of what they do, but this doesn't allow Sun to work with the community. btw: there's a difference between working with the community, and

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Wednesday 19 April 2006 04:25 pm, Eric Boutilier wrote: I'm not sure if that's what Alan is pushing for or not, but one things for sure: It seems way more logical to speculate that a significant percentage of volunteers in such an endeavor would be Sun employees as well as non-Sun

[osol-discuss] Re: Solaris iMac Hello World

2006-04-20 Thread Ché Kristo
Thanks for the hard work that you guys have put into this...now its time to start harrassing ati for drivers This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Solaris on Intel Macs??

2006-04-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Wednesday 12 April 2006 10:40 am, Jürgen Keil wrote: I've modified GRUB with this patch, and now I have a working keyboard inside GRUB: Nice, I saw one of the new powerbooks running Solaris today, but the arrow keys didn't seem to work in grub. Will this allow them to cursor around in the

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Thursday 13 April 2006 05:06 am, James Carlson wrote: /opt/csw/lib/libfoo.so.1 and the other installs as /opt/sfw/lib/libfoo.so.1 then one can't really satisfy the other. The user is forced straight into LD_LIBRARY_PATH or crle(1) hell, and that's just not right. How can this

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Thursday 13 April 2006 02:19 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, I'm someone upset at the exlusivity you appear to claim for blastwave; open source is about sharing, but it's also about being allowed to do your own thing. Thank you for pointing that out. I for one would just like to see

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Solaris on Intel Macs??

2006-04-20 Thread Jürgen Keil
I've modified GRUB with this patch, and now I have a working keyboard inside GRUB: Nice, I saw one of the new powerbooks running Solaris today, but the arrow keys didn't seem to work in grub. Will this allow them to cursor around in the grub menu? Yes, that patch should work around the

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Friday 14 April 2006 10:06 am, Dennis Clarke wrote: As you know, we strive for better than 99% quality and every package must go through tests and peer review. I have to get Eric's latest pine onto my Sparc 20 here just to test for that vanishingly small sun4m user base out there. I think

[osol-discuss] Re: Mailx failure

2006-04-20 Thread Kevin Baumann
Sorry about the post here, I will go to Bigadmin. Thanks for the help. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Dennis Clarke
[ sorry for the brutal snippage ] Maybe this new bullpen project needs to be built on the CSW project, maybe the CCD project, maybe the JDS (spec-files-extra) project, maybe something else, maybe a hybrid... In any case, I'm really looking forward to that being figured out ASAP. I think

Re: [osol-discuss] What's the best backup utility with user friendly GUI in Unix/Linux world?

2006-04-20 Thread Bill Rushmore
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Yu-Hui Liu wrote: Hi, there, Question is quite simple as subject. What's your prefer? I have yet to see one I liked and I am even including Mac OS X which for the most part has nailed the GUI stuff well. Backups are one of those things you just want to work and you

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Dennis Clarke
there. I think this is why Lockheed Martin uses the software. They are stuck with some old gear doing really specific tasks. So .. they use the sun4m stuff. That may be true today, but these folks are going to find out about the new planes that run on AMD64 jet fuel. Even the govie jobs

RE: [osol-discuss] What's the best backup utility with user frien dly GUI in Unix/Linux world?

2006-04-20 Thread Bruce Shaw
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Re[2]: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Philip, Tuesday, April 18, 2006, 11:44:11 PM, you wrote: PB On Tue, Apr 18, 2006 at 09:53:44AM +0200, Robert Milkowski wrote: PB [really, it should give the patches to openssl.org. but barring that, PB it would be nice to see a patch set just posted somewhere, like PB

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread ken mays
One of the topics we should review is the SFW releases. The simple thing behind this is to review the current sources within the current SFW_b38 versus the latest stable releases available on the Net. This is one of the issues that causes other package maintainers to use their own libs. This

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Community/Project Proposals Update: 4/19/06

2006-04-20 Thread Jasse Jansson
On Apr 20, 2006, at 3:10 AM, Dev Mazumdar wrote: Hi Jim, How about the audio newsgroup I had proposed a while back?. What about expanding the games group to cover audio and other computer aided leisure related activities too ??? Also I'd request pruning a bunch of newsgroups like some if

Re[2]: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Chris, Wednesday, April 19, 2006, 11:28:14 PM, you wrote: CR On Wed, 19 Apr 2006, Dave Miner wrote: Not being a Debian user, I won't try to compare. I guess your experience with Solaris patches is more from the user end, whereas I'm looking at it from the creator/maintainer end;

Re[2]: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Chris Ricker
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Robert Milkowski wrote: CR It's not so pretty from the user side either, though I suppose that's more CR a matter of taste. There are things about Solaris I prefer over Linux, but CR the package / patch duality versus the everything-is-a-package approach of CR Debian or

Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation

2006-04-20 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Great ideas for OpenSolaris participation in the Google Summer of Code, guys. The list of participating organizations at Google's site is growing, but so far OpenSolaris is not approved yet. I think we need one page to list all these project ideas to show Google what we have to offer (many

Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation

2006-04-20 Thread Peter Tribble
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 19:34, Jim Grisanzio wrote: Ben opened a page on the Genunix wiki: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Summer_of_Code I accidentally went to www.genuix.org. Hm. A couple of points: I'm not sure that content or marketing count. Or localization/i18n. Google

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Thursday 20 April 2006 05:38 am, Dennis Clarke wrote: Let's drop the name Sun from that last sentence. Try, just for the feel of it, to put in the words the community in as a replacement for the company name Sun. Now see how it feels : I think I'm on the same page with you

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal: Nevada Companion Software

2006-04-20 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Thursday 20 April 2006 06:19 am, Dennis Clarke wrote: Some people are s stuck in thinking it still works and so we are not going to fix it attitude. When I see yet another E4000 ( not E4500 ) running Oracle for 70 people I just want to scream. Really. Running Solaris 8 of course.

Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation

2006-04-20 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 4/20/06, Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great ideas for OpenSolaris participation in the Google Summer of Code, guys. The list of participating organizations at Google's site is growing, but so far OpenSolaris is not approved yet. I think we need one page to list all these project

[osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code idea

2006-04-20 Thread Roberto J. Dohnert
Im about to say a cuss word in the Solaris world and Im prepared for whatever flak, insults and grenades that happen to come my way. Is there any interest at all to port Mono, yes the Novell .NET Framework implementation, to OpenSolaris and Solaris x86? This would be helpful in the desktop

Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation

2006-04-20 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On 4/20/06, Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great ideas for OpenSolaris participation in the Google Summer of Code, guys. The list of participating organizations at Google's site is growing, but so far OpenSolaris is not approved yet. I think we need one page to

Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code idea

2006-04-20 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 18:15 -0400, Roberto J. Dohnert wrote: Im about to say a cuss word in the Solaris world and Im prepared for whatever flak, insults and grenades that happen to come my way. Is there any interest at all to port Mono, yes the Novell .NET Framework implementation, to

Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code idea

2006-04-20 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roberto J. Dohnert wrote: Im about to say a cuss word in the Solaris world and Im prepared for whatever flak, insults and grenades that happen to come my way. Is there any interest at all to port Mono, yes the Novell .NET Framework

Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation

2006-04-20 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On 4/20/06, Jim Grisanzio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Justin. My understanding is that Simon Phipps has applied for Sun's projects and that he's been interacting with Google. I've cc'd him here. The right folks on Google's end are looking into this. Thanks! -- justin

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Community/Project Proposals Update: 4/19/06

2006-04-20 Thread Stephen Potter
Interesting. Would you be satisfied if the main Discussion list didn't display the secondary lists of these communities, or are you really requesting that the aliases be deleted? There are many UG and i18n forum groups that have never had a post (except the welcome message). They tend to

Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation

2006-04-20 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Peter Tribble wrote: On Thu, 2006-04-20 at 19:34, Jim Grisanzio wrote: Ben opened a page on the Genunix wiki: http://www.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Summer_of_Code I accidentally went to www.genuix.org. Hm. A couple of points: I'm not sure that content or marketing count. Or

Re: [osol-discuss] Google Summer of Code: Call for OpenSolaris Participation

2006-04-20 Thread Michelle Olson
Jim wrote: snip But if writing some sort of documentation (or article, or whatever) could be *part* of a coding project, then I think we'd be more than happy to get involved and help. /snip Ditto from the docs community, we'd like to help other students to learn from the work that happens

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris distros collaboration by using launchpad.net

2006-04-20 Thread Moinak Ghosh
Erast Benson wrote: Guys, I were thinking on what would be beneficial for every camp involved into OpenSolaris and related development? What would be useful for NexentaOS, BeleniX, SchilliX, marTux, SCXR, etc ? I think having centralized place (bugzilla, bounty, project management, calendar,