Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: libc_i18n.a rewrite.

2007-02-06 Thread Eric Boutilier

Thanks, John. You have seconds. I'll contact you offline to
get you set up.

Eric

On Thu, 1 Feb 2007, John Sonnenschein wrote:

Currently, there is no possible way to build an opensolaris distribution without 
including the closed-source libc_i18n.a. What this means is that a traditional 
distribution is entirely out of the question. This is entirely unacceptable for a project 
which wishes to call itself Open Source.

I propose that a project be started seeking to re-implement all necessary 
functions locked up behind that binary.

I've done a rudimentary count of the work required, and from what I can tell 
there's a small number ( 100 - 200 ) utility functions ( wcwidth() for example) 
that need a rewrite.

I would prefer if this project be attached to the name of closed-reimplementation 
 or something similar, due to the fact that the primary focus at first will be to 
remove libc_i18n.a, and that must be integrated without delay, but ultimately I'd like 
for closed bins to disappear completely.


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Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: libc_i18n.a rewrite.

2007-02-04 Thread Alan Burlison

Stephen Lau wrote:



here's my vote for a project name:
Project Emancipation 


Surely Project Enduring Freedom would be more appropriate?

;-)

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Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: libc_i18n.a rewrite.

2007-02-03 Thread Ian Collins
Alan Hargreaves wrote:

 Do we have a test suite for what we have in libc_i18n.a? If so, we
 should make that available or at leat have someone who can run it
 against anything the project produces.

As the missing functions don't appear to be documented (correct me if
I'm wrong) someone who has access to the closed source will have to
provide either tests, or test requirements for them for this exercise to
succeed.

Ian
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[osol-discuss] Project Proposal: libc_i18n.a rewrite.

2007-02-01 Thread John Sonnenschein
Currently, there is no possible way to build an opensolaris distribution 
without including the closed-source libc_i18n.a. What this means is that a 
traditional distribution is entirely out of the question. This is entirely 
unacceptable for a project which wishes to call itself Open Source. 

I propose that a project be started seeking to re-implement all necessary 
functions locked up behind that binary. 

I've done a rudimentary count of the work required, and from what I can tell 
there's a small number ( 100 - 200 ) utility functions ( wcwidth() for example) 
that need a rewrite. 

I would prefer if this project be attached to the name of 
closed-reimplementation  or something similar, due to the fact that the 
primary focus at first will be to remove libc_i18n.a, and that must be 
integrated without delay, but ultimately I'd like for closed bins to disappear 
completely.
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: libc_i18n.a rewrite.

2007-02-01 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Friday 02 February 2007 01:07, John Sonnenschein wrote:
 Currently, there is no possible way to build an opensolaris
 distribution without including the closed-source libc_i18n.a. What
 this means is that a traditional distribution is entirely out of
 the question. This is entirely unacceptable for a project which
 wishes to call itself Open Source.

 I propose that a project be started seeking to re-implement all
 necessary functions locked up behind that binary.

 I've done a rudimentary count of the work required, and from what I
 can tell there's a small number ( 100 - 200 ) utility functions (
 wcwidth() for example) that need a rewrite.

 I would prefer if this project be attached to the name of
 closed-reimplementation  or something similar, due to the fact
 that the primary focus at first will be to remove libc_i18n.a, and
 that must be integrated without delay, but ultimately I'd like for
 closed bins to disappear completely.

+1.

--Stefan

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Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: libc_i18n.a rewrite.

2007-02-01 Thread Erast Benson
On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 22:07 -0800, John Sonnenschein wrote:
 Currently, there is no possible way to build an opensolaris distribution 
 without including the closed-source libc_i18n.a. What this means is that a 
 traditional distribution is entirely out of the question. This is entirely 
 unacceptable for a project which wishes to call itself Open Source. 
 
 I propose that a project be started seeking to re-implement all necessary 
 functions locked up behind that binary. 
 
 I've done a rudimentary count of the work required, and from what I can tell 
 there's a small number ( 100 - 200 ) utility functions ( wcwidth() for 
 example) that need a rewrite. 
 
 I would prefer if this project be attached to the name of 
 closed-reimplementation  or something similar, due to the fact that the 
 primary focus at first will be to remove libc_i18n.a, and that must be 
 integrated without delay, but ultimately I'd like for closed bins to 
 disappear completely.

+1

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Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: libc_i18n.a rewrite.

2007-02-01 Thread Stephen Lau
+1

here's my vote for a project name:
Project Emancipation 

cheers,
steve

On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 10:07:28PM -0800, John Sonnenschein wrote:
 Currently, there is no possible way to build an opensolaris distribution 
 without including the closed-source libc_i18n.a. What this means is that a 
 traditional distribution is entirely out of the question. This is entirely 
 unacceptable for a project which wishes to call itself Open Source. 
 
 I propose that a project be started seeking to re-implement all necessary 
 functions locked up behind that binary. 
 
 I've done a rudimentary count of the work required, and from what I can tell 
 there's a small number ( 100 - 200 ) utility functions ( wcwidth() for 
 example) that need a rewrite. 
 
 I would prefer if this project be attached to the name of 
 closed-reimplementation  or something similar, due to the fact that the 
 primary focus at first will be to remove libc_i18n.a, and that must be 
 integrated without delay, but ultimately I'd like for closed bins to 
 disappear completely.
  
  
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Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal: libc_i18n.a rewrite.

2007-02-01 Thread John Sonnenschein


On 1-Feb-07, at 10:26 PM, Stephen Lau wrote:


here's my vote for a project name:
Project Emancipation


fantastic! :) I'll take it
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