Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
Dennis Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The boot -m milestone=none resulted in this : Booting to milestone none. Requesting System Maintenance Mode (See /lib/svc/share/README for more information.) Console login service(s) cannot run Root password for system maintenance (control-d to

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. And we've long said you shouldn't be doign that :-) Show me the doc or white paper that says so and why. Read my Usenet postings :-) But the explanation is fairly simple: you cannot recover from a number of failures (corrupt vfstab, bad /dev* links

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-17 Thread Casper . Dik
But the explanation is fairly simple: you cannot recover from a number of failures (corrupt vfstab, bad /dev* links for boot device) without having /usr mounted; you cannot mount /usr when those things happen. And you cannot recover if the same happens with a big / installation either. You

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-17 Thread Casper . Dik
Please explain why you believe this. the only difference I see in your case is that you would need to find the /devices entry to mount /usr so it makes sense to have find or a name completing shell in / When you boot from a device the node does not need to be present in /dev* in order for you

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please explain why you believe this. the only difference I see in your case is that you would need to find the /devices entry to mount /usr so it makes sense to have find or a name completing shell in / When you boot from a device the node does not need to be

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-17 Thread Daniel Rock
Joerg Schilling schrieb: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you boot from a device the node does not need to be present in /dev* in order for you to remoutn it r/w so you can fix it. This was true before /devices was on the devfs filesystem. But having /usr ready helps a lot. It is no fun,

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-17 Thread Joerg Schilling
Daniel Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joerg Schilling schrieb: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you boot from a device the node does not need to be present in /dev* in order for you to remoutn it r/w so you can fix it. This was true before /devices was on the devfs filesystem. But

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-16 Thread Darren J Moffat
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 03:52, Dennis Clarke wrote: The boot -m milestone=none resulted in this : Booting to milestone none. Requesting System Maintenance Mode (See /lib/svc/share/README for more information.) Console login service(s) cannot run Root password for system maintenance

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-16 Thread Casper . Dik
-sh: /bin/i386: not found -sh: /usr/sbin/quota: not found -sh: /bin/cat: not found -sh: /bin/mail: not found # # df -ak df: not found # ls ls: not found # pwd /root That looks like you have split / and /usr, right ? And we've long said you shouldn't be doign that :-) Not sure

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-16 Thread Darren J Moffat
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 15:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I'm certain our best practices now are something like: / /var- for servers only /export - separate the users/data from the rest. I'd agree with that completely. In fact I'd actually say that on general purpose

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-16 Thread James Carlson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - you run out of space more quickly because you dividing line will not be correct - hard recoverability issues become impossible with net/cdrom boot - the gain in stability is fairly minimal (a read-only /usr mount mostly increases

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-16 Thread Rainer Orth
Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 15:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I'm certain our best practices now are something like: / /var- for servers only /export - separate the users/data from the rest. I'd agree with that completely. In

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-16 Thread Matthew Simmons
DJM == Darren J Moffat Darren writes: DJM I also tend to have /var/core and /var/crash separate as well but DJM thats because I don't actually want live upgrade to copy the core and DJM crash files over to the new boot environment, because they aren't DJM relevant. DJM

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-16 Thread Darren J Moffat
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 16:21, Matthew Simmons wrote: DJM == Darren J Moffat Darren writes: DJM I also tend to have /var/core and /var/crash separate as well but DJM thats because I don't actually want live upgrade to copy the core and DJM crash files over to the new boot

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-16 Thread Matthew Simmons
DJM == Darren J Moffat Darren writes: DJM I use to do that but if using dumpadm and coreadm to actually put them DJM else where seemed like a better solution to me - mainly because they DJM have the functionality built in so why not use it. On the other hand, /var/crash is a

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-16 Thread Darren J Moffat
On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 16:43, Matthew Simmons wrote: DJM == Darren J Moffat Darren writes: DJM I use to do that but if using dumpadm and coreadm to actually put them DJM else where seemed like a better solution to me - mainly because they DJM have the functionality built in so

Re: [osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-16 Thread Matthew Simmons
DJM == Darren J Moffat Darren writes: DJM Which brings me to very minor grip about the default config of DJM Solaris, it is /var/crash/hostname at the first time you booted DJM which when using DHCP in the default Solaris config can change. Sure DJM I can find out what it is

[osol-discuss] milestone none really means nothing running at all really

2005-11-15 Thread Dennis Clarke
The boot -m milestone=none resulted in this : Booting to milestone none. Requesting System Maintenance Mode (See /lib/svc/share/README for more information.) Console login service(s) cannot run Root password for system maintenance (control-d to bypass): single-user privilege assigned to