Re: [osol-discuss] Extended Desktop?

2008-06-19 Thread Matt Parnell
Thank you so much -- I understand what i need o do now . but i dont have a 
xorg.conf file anywhere.
The site say its: etc/X11/xorg.conf
but its not. I found something on Wikipedia saying that the xorg.conf can be 
located differently on different OSs, so i did a file search and I couldn't 
find it.
I found this after scanning the whole file system:
File: xorg.conf.4
location: usr/X11/share/man/man

Is this what I'm looking for??
If not, where is the xorg.conf file  i need to edit the virtual screen size.

Matt
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Extended Desktop?

2008-06-19 Thread Calum Benson

On 17 Jun 2008, at 15:38, Alan Coopersmith wrote:

 Matt Parnell wrote:
 I;ve googled: Xrandr
 But i don't understand what i need to do.
 How do i use Xrandr? What do i need to do to make it work?

 If your card/driver supports it, you can run the /usr/X11/bin/xrandr
 command to use it, for instance /usr/X11/bin/xrandr --auto.

 Some more examples are at:
 http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html
 http://en.opensuse.org/Multiple_Displays_Using_XRandR

FWIW, OpenSuSE's GUI for this (variants of which are also used in  
Ubuntu and some other distros) is being pushed upstream to GNOME, so  
we should see it in OpenSolaris at some point, maybe even 2008.11.

http://www.gnome.org/~federico/news-2008-04.html#multiscreen-hackfest-01 
 

Cheeri,
Calum.

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Re: [osol-discuss] Extended Desktop?

2008-06-19 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Matt Parnell wrote:
 Thank you so much -- I understand what i need o do now . but i dont have 
 a xorg.conf file anywhere.
 The site say its: etc/X11/xorg.conf
 but its not. I found something on Wikipedia saying that the xorg.conf can be 
 located differently on different OSs, so i did a file search and I couldn't 
 find it.

If you have an xorg.conf in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, OpenSolaris will use it,
but it defaults to not having an xorg.conf and autodetecting the correct
hardware settings instead, so you won't find one if you haven't made one.

You can make one by running /usr/X11/bin/Xorg -configure when X isn't
running - to do that, kill gdm (which in turn kills your current login
session  X server) with:
svcadm disable gdm

Once you've created and edited the xorg.conf, you can restart gdm with:
svcadm enable gdm

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Re: [osol-discuss] Extended Desktop?

2008-06-19 Thread Matt Parnell
Thank, I'll try that, but I don't know what i need to use put in this xorg.conf 
file.
Anyone got a template which i can edit for my laptop?
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Extended Desktop?

2008-06-19 Thread Mike Meyer
On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:01:28 PDT Matt Parnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you so much -- I understand what i need o do now . but i dont have 
 a xorg.conf file anywhere.
 The site say its: etc/X11/xorg.conf
 but its not. I found something on Wikipedia saying that the xorg.conf can be 
 located differently on different OSs, so i did a file search and I couldn't 
 find it.
 I found this after scanning the whole file system:
 File: xorg.conf.4
 location: usr/X11/share/man/man
 
 Is this what I'm looking for??

No.

 If not, where is the xorg.conf file  i need to edit the virtual screen 
 size.

You'll have to create one. xorg looks in a number of different places
for it, including /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and if it fails to find one it
will make up values that should work for most systems, though it
seldom does what you want with dual head systems (this seems to be
true everywhere - Mac  Windows  FreeBSD all default to mirroring one
display on all available monitors).

BTW, I discovered that the nvidea driver used by the 2008.05
distribution (updated to b90) doesn't do xrandr; you have to use
Xinerama. The upside is that the nvidia-settings program in the
distribution provides a nice gui for doing all this and saving the
resulting xorg.conf. The downside is that enabling/disabling a monitor
requires restarting X, so I'm not sure it's suitable for your laptop.

 mike
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Re: [osol-discuss] Extended Desktop?

2008-06-17 Thread Matt Parnell
I;ve googled: Xrandr
But i don't understand what i need to do.
How do i use Xrandr? What do i need to do to make it work?
 
 
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Re: [osol-discuss] Extended Desktop?

2008-06-17 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Matt Parnell wrote:
 I;ve googled: Xrandr
 But i don't understand what i need to do.
 How do i use Xrandr? What do i need to do to make it work?

If your card/driver supports it, you can run the /usr/X11/bin/xrandr
command to use it, for instance /usr/X11/bin/xrandr --auto.

Some more examples are at:
http://www.intellinuxgraphics.org/dualhead.html
http://en.opensuse.org/Multiple_Displays_Using_XRandR

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Re: [osol-discuss] Extended Desktop?

2008-06-16 Thread Matt Harrison
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 05:35:23AM -0700, Matt Parnell wrote:
 Hey Guys, its the Noob again. lol
 As you all know I'm an XP guy, attapting to OpenSolairs, so far its been 
 great, a couple hickups that you'veset me in the correct directions, but i 
 still am loving it.
 
 A Think which I've got used to on XP is the extended Desktop funtion.
 I am using a laptop, 15.4 1280x800.
 I have connected an external monitor, 19 1440x900.
 On XP, all i have to do is go to properties, enable the monitor drag it to 
 where i want it, click extend and I can use both monitors. All i do i move my 
 curse off the screen to the left (i made it to the left) and it's on me other 
 monitor.
 
 Does OpenSolaris have an equivelant?
 When my Laptop is connected to the Monitor (as it always is, exept for when 
 i'm out with it), OpenSolaris detects it and puts the screen resolution to 
 match it: 1440x900. But that also isplays on my laptop LCD the same.
 The same thing is displayed, but because my laptop is set to 1280x800 I'm 
 loosing a large block off my laptop screen.
 That doesn't matter aslong as there is an option, or a file that is editable 
 for extended monitors.
 
 Can anyone help me out here? I've been browsing the NET for answers for ages, 
 and  i can't find anything.
 What do you think?
 
 (Some of you are probably thinking that im wrong to want it ... but it's very 
 helpful to split your stuff up and have appications opening on diffent 
 screens. I know thats what Work Stations are for, but they don't interface 
 with scondary monitors)

Hi, I haven't set this up myself, but I believe the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
should allow you to configure two monitors, their resolutions and where you
want them in relation to each other.

As I say I haven't done multiple monitors myself, but maybe a google search for
multiple monitors X11 might turn up some useful information.

HTH

Matt Harrison


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Re: [osol-discuss] Extended Desktop?

2008-06-16 Thread Ignacio Marambio Catán
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 9:35 AM, Matt Parnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Guys, its the Noob again. lol
 As you all know I'm an XP guy, attapting to OpenSolairs, so far its been 
 great, a couple hickups that you'veset me in the correct directions, but i 
 still am loving it.

 A Think which I've got used to on XP is the extended Desktop funtion.
 I am using a laptop, 15.4 1280x800.
 I have connected an external monitor, 19 1440x900.
 On XP, all i have to do is go to properties, enable the monitor drag it to 
 where i want it, click extend and I can use both monitors. All i do i move my 
 curse off the screen to the left (i made it to the left) and it's on me other 
 monitor.

 Does OpenSolaris have an equivelant?
 When my Laptop is connected to the Monitor (as it always is, exept for when 
 i'm out with it), OpenSolaris detects it and puts the screen resolution to 
 match it: 1440x900. But that also isplays on my laptop LCD the same.
 The same thing is displayed, but because my laptop is set to 1280x800 I'm 
 loosing a large block off my laptop screen.
 That doesn't matter aslong as there is an option, or a file that is editable 
 for extended monitors.

 Can anyone help me out here? I've been browsing the NET for answers for ages, 
 and  i can't find anything.
 What do you think?

 (Some of you are probably thinking that im wrong to want it ... but it's very 
 helpful to split your stuff up and have appications opening on diffent 
 screens. I know thats what Work Stations are for, but they don't interface 
 with scondary monitors)

 Matt

you need xinerama, check
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/features/articles/xinerama_x86.html

nacho


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Re: [osol-discuss] Extended Desktop?

2008-06-16 Thread Mike Meyer
On Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:32:47 -0300 Ignacio Marambio Catán [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 you need xinerama, check

Work on Xinerama has stopped in favor of Xrandr. Xinerama's APIs have
never been properly specified, and it's static - you can't add or
remove screens or change their resolution on the fly. Xrandr doesn't
have those problems. Video driver support seems to be spotty - some
still do things for Xinerama, others have dropped that in favor of
xrandr

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