[opensource-dev] Requesting review for VWR-19505 patch (missing selection beam)

2010-08-25 Thread Zai Lynch
The selection beam (particle beam from someones own avatar's hand to the object the avatar is editing) has always been broken in Viewer 2. It's reported as https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-19505 The following patch should fix this: http://bitbucket.org/ZaiLynch/vwr-19505 Review / testing /

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Erik Anderson
Well, looking at the spec that was linked earlier in this thread... When someone is using a TPV that can do OTR (and the user has indicated a willingness to use it), then many(all?) their chats will have " " at the end (this is ). I'm guessing that it is thought that no one would notice these

[opensource-dev] Transcript: Snowstorm Product Backlog & Idea Discussion OH - 08/25/2010

2010-08-25 Thread Esbee Linden (Sarah Hutchinson)
Thanks to everyone who attended the Snowstorm Product Backlog & Idea Discussion OH today! I've posted the transcript of the meeting, here: https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Esbee_Linden/Office_Hours/2010-08-25 See you next week! Esbee___ Policies

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Carlo Wood
Nevermind, I should have read the rest of the thread first. Looks like a pretty solid protocol. Does anyone know if it is possible for an arbitrary TPV to start an OTR with another TPV? If so, how? Or is it needed to be recognized by the other viewer as being a viewer that has OTR implemented? Ho

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Carlo Wood
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 01:59:49PM -0700, Brian McGroarty wrote: > Has anyone spent time looking at the encrypted chat feature included in some > third-party viewers? It's my understanding that this contacts third-party > servers in obtaining and validating keys. Is that correct? If that is correc

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Kadah
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/25/2010 5:44 PM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > The changes we've requested primarily concern the re-establishment of > trust between the Emerald development team, Linden Lab, and the Second > Life resident community. If you believe that yo

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2010-08-25 20:02, Kadah wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/25/2010 3:11 PM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: >>On 2010-08-25 17:14, Kadah wrote: >>>Do they get >>> special (more restrictive?) rules than other TPVs just because its popular? >> No. > Good

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

2010-08-25 Thread CG Linden
Well, let me be a little nicer about it :) The results.py script is to generate a page from the files uploaded to a hierarchical file system (S3 for us in production, a generic filesystem in the published version). The sections presented map to the upload types defined in the "upload_item" functi

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

2010-08-25 Thread CG Linden
I want the same info that's on it now. I -might- be willing to accept the removal of the list of past good builds, because it does double duty with the "changes in this build" javascript widget. If anyone can find a nice way to rewrite the javascript widget to traverse the "changes included in thi

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Kadah
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/25/2010 3:11 PM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > On 2010-08-25 17:14, Kadah wrote: >> Do they get >> special (more restrictive?) rules than other TPVs just because its popular? > No. Good to know, Oz. Thanks. Will we get to know what the

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

2010-08-25 Thread Ricky
Where (if any) is the design spec for the page? Looking at it, it looks like the page might be a literal interpretation of such a spec, as would be put together by any conventional engineer... (Us engineer types aren't the most creative people out there... :P ) With such a spec it will be known

Re: [opensource-dev] Naive question about Bitbucket

2010-08-25 Thread Ricky
I strongly recommend reading http://hginit.com/ - it explains a lot about how Mercurial's concepts work, and even has a "re-education" section for us SVN users... It's what kickstarted me into Hg! Ricky Cron Stardust On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Am Wednesday 25 Augu

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Tigro Spottystripes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I would expect that it being more popular just puts more eyes on it. On 25/8/2010 19:11, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > On 2010-08-25 17:14, Kadah wrote: >> Do they get >> special (more restrictive?) rules than other TPVs just because its p

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2010-08-25 17:14, Kadah wrote: > Do they get > special (more restrictive?) rules than other TPVs just because its popular? No. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read th

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

2010-08-25 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2010-08-25 14:01, CG Linden wrote: > Actually, the code that generates that page my own. If anyone wants to > improve the look, you can! > > Check out > http://bitbucket.org/cg_linden/buildscripts/src/tip/hg/bin/results.py > > /me puts on paintball protective goggles, helmet and shoulderpads

Re: [opensource-dev] J2C fast decoder

2010-08-25 Thread Sythos
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:06:00 +0100 Robin Cornelius wrote: > I'm not aware of anyone publishing results for such a test, but if you > have the time it would be interesting reading. Some things to keep in > mind. OpenJpeg has patches floating around on its ML against 1.3 that > reports have claime

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Aidan Thornton
On 8/25/10, Brian McGroarty wrote: > Has anyone spent time looking at the encrypted chat feature included in some > third-party viewers? It's my understanding that this contacts third-party > servers in obtaining and validating keys. Is that correct? If so, do these > connections share any informa

Re: [opensource-dev] J2C fast decoder

2010-08-25 Thread Kadah
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/25/2010 2:06 PM, Robin Cornelius wrote: > Also in SL usage, (please correct me if i am wrong) when the viewer > ups the resolution (using discard levels) openjpeg needs to redecode > the entire image, KDU does not, and the meta data extraction for

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Arrehn Oberlander
Some of the TPVs implement the OTR protocol for encrypted messaging: http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/Protocol-v2-3.1.0.html This does not involve 3rd party servers, or disclose information. In fact it's designed not to disclose anything, ___ Policies and

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Kadah
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/25/2010 1:59 PM, Brian McGroarty wrote: > Has anyone spent time looking at the encrypted chat feature included in > some third-party viewers? It's my understanding that this contacts > third-party servers in obtaining and validating keys. Is that

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Robert Martin
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Brian McGroarty wrote: > Has anyone spent time looking at the encrypted chat feature included in some > third-party viewers? you mean like THAT VIEWERs OTR feature?? 1 its badly broken anyway 2 it does not have a keyserver all keys are current session only (even t

Re: [opensource-dev] J2C fast decoder

2010-08-25 Thread Robin Cornelius
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:00 PM, Altair Sythos wrote: > i'm testing in RL office (not or a viewer) JasPer decoder for JPG2000 > images, after a short test with openjpeg2000 from EPFL we have tested > last 3 days JasPer (only a POC apps to do some bench), we must do a lot > of work too, but this i

[opensource-dev] J2C fast decoder

2010-08-25 Thread Sythos
i'm testing in RL office (not or a viewer) JasPer decoder for JPG2000 images, after a short test with openjpeg2000 from EPFL we have tested last 3 days JasPer (only a POC apps to do some bench), we must do a lot of work too, but this is a lil question... anybody here around never tried it as altern

[opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

2010-08-25 Thread Brian McGroarty
Has anyone spent time looking at the encrypted chat feature included in some third-party viewers? It's my understanding that this contacts third-party servers in obtaining and validating keys. Is that correct? If so, do these connections share any information about the user that we should require t

Re: [opensource-dev] Temporary textures

2010-08-25 Thread Opensource Obscure
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:04:59 +0200, Francesco Rabbi wrote: > Why using beta grid you can test it for free without overload the > viewer with code used by few ones i suppose... Yeah. But for various reasons, it seems some people still find quicker and more practical to use temporary uploads wit

Re: [opensource-dev] Temporary textures

2010-08-25 Thread Francesco Rabbi
Why using beta grid you can test it for free without overload the viewer with code used by few ones i suppose... -- Sent by iPhone Il giorno 25/ago/2010, alle ore 19:47, Laurent Rathle ha scritto: > Hello, > > Is it possible to have temporary textures available on Snowglobe or on > Second Life

Re: [opensource-dev] Temporary textures

2010-08-25 Thread Boroondas Gupte
On 08/25/2010 07:47 PM, Laurent Rathle wrote: > Is it possible to have temporary textures available on Snowglobe or on > Second Life viewer ? Actually, this is already on Snowstorm's Product Backlog (i.e. the long term TODO list). See the spreadsheet

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

2010-08-25 Thread CG Linden
Actually, the code that generates that page my own. If anyone wants to improve the look, you can! Check out http://bitbucket.org/cg_linden/buildscripts/src/tip/hg/bin/results.py /me puts on paintball protective goggles, helmet and shoulderpads. I don't claim that this is a perfect example of ele

[opensource-dev] Temporary textures

2010-08-25 Thread Laurent Rathle
Hello, Is it possible to have temporary textures available on Snowglobe or on Second Life viewer ? It seems to be a quite requested feature since it allows people to test easily their creation without spending too much money. If not, why ? Thank you

Re: [opensource-dev] Naive question about Bitbucket

2010-08-25 Thread Marine Kelley
Aha ! That was it. Actually one has to Clone with TortoiseHg, and then to right click on the folder and choose TortoiseHg Update, and choose what changeset to apply. I'll look into the options so that it applies all the changes upon cloning, I don't feel like doing this one change at a time. Thank

Re: [opensource-dev] Naive question about Bitbucket

2010-08-25 Thread Lance Corrimal
Am Wednesday 25 August 2010 schrieb Brian McGroarty: > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Marine Kelley wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > Pardon my naive question, but this is the first time I use > > TortoiseHg, and I'm having weird results here. My Cygwin is too > > old to update via cygwin-setup, I

Re: [opensource-dev] Naive question about Bitbucket

2010-08-25 Thread Brian McGroarty
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Marine Kelley wrote: > Hello all, > > Pardon my naive question, but this is the first time I use TortoiseHg, and > I'm having weird results here. My Cygwin is too old to update via > cygwin-setup, I have to reinstall it completely, and I don't want to do > that. S

[opensource-dev] Naive question about Bitbucket

2010-08-25 Thread Marine Kelley
Hello all, Pardon my naive question, but this is the first time I use TortoiseHg, and I'm having weird results here. My Cygwin is too old to update via cygwin-setup, I have to reinstall it completely, and I don't want to do that. So I'm falling back to TortoiseHg instead. And here is my problem :

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

2010-08-25 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2010-08-25 10:14, Trilo Byte wrote: > Yeah - it'd be great if that page could be changed so that it looks more like > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowglobe That page is generated by TeamCity; it may be true that the format can be modified, but that page is really intended only for develo

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

2010-08-25 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2010-08-25 10:08, WolfPup Lowenhar wrote: > I believe he is talking about : > > http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/oz_viewer-de > velopment/latest.html > > This is where the builds are listed. My apologies - I renamed that build and failed to update the wiki to m

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

2010-08-25 Thread Trilo Byte
Yeah - it'd be great if that page could be changed so that it looks more like http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowglobe As well as current (looks like it's stuck on last week... this morning's most recent build shows as 208505) On Aug 25, 2010, at 7:08 AM, WolfPup Lowenhar wrote: > I believe he

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

2010-08-25 Thread WolfPup Lowenhar
I believe he is talking about : http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/oz_viewer-de velopment/latest.html This is where the builds are listed. -Original Message- From: opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com [mailto:opensource-dev-boun...@lists.secondlife.com

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

2010-08-25 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2010-08-24 20:21, Jonathan Welch wrote: > Oz& company, > > Would it be possible/easy to have the table of the most recent commit > & build of Snowstorm enhanced to be more humanly readable by > non-developers, like the one for Snowglobe "Development Snapshots"? > > That is, keep the table, b