Re: [opensource-dev] Building viewer-development

2010-09-10 Thread Brendan Wilson
To answer your questions Sheet: First off viewer-development ( aka Snowstom) dose still use the same set up as you use for Snowglobe. Second http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Viewer_2_Microsoft_Windows_Builds is more current for building the viewer but it needs to be updated to include a link to th

[opensource-dev] Building viewer-development

2010-09-10 Thread Sheet Spotter
I would like to build the viewer-development source code under Windoze. I was familiar with the Snowglobe process. Now I need to understand any changes to the build process for Project Snowstorm. The wiki instructions for the retrieving the source code and building the viewer seem out of date.

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

2010-09-10 Thread Dave Booth
On 9/10/2010 17:30, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > ROFLOL > > You are kidding, aren't you ?... If not, then please try using a good > TPV and see how many times it crashes in a week... 0 for the Cool VL > Viewer (and I'm using it every day). Fact is that TPVs got fixes that > v1.23.5 doesn't have

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

2010-09-10 Thread dilly dobbs
Fair enough, but the simple fact is that the interface needs to be changed so that they can reclaim more of the sign ups to the grid. The last numbers i have read on the learning curve is something like 70% of the users that sign up leave because they have troubles with the interface. And we must

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-106 : Chat Translation

2010-09-10 Thread Latif Khalifa
Yey! On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Philippe (Merov) Bossut wrote: > Hi, > > Just to mention that this feature has been pulled in > lindenlab/viewer-development. > > Cheers, > - Merov > > ___ > Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: >

[opensource-dev] Requesting code review - STORM-105 Create a Performance Data Tracking system

2010-09-10 Thread Philippe (Merov) Bossut
Hi, As part of the KDU upgrade, I created that sub task solely focused on Perf Metric. I basically modified an existing hack (used only for texture rendering perf gathering) and made it work and documented it in a more general way, starting by moving it from newview to llcommon. It's not complete

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

2010-09-10 Thread Henri Beauchamp
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:27:32 -0500, dilly dobbs wrote: > I would like to know 2 things, as an observer. You continue to make > statements like 'TPV developers' as if you speak for them all. > > Secondly, I distinctly remember you saying goodbye to us all, Is this your > Hi im back statement? >

[opensource-dev] STORM-106 : Chat Translation

2010-09-10 Thread Philippe (Merov) Bossut
Hi, Just to mention that this feature has been pulled in lindenlab/viewer-development. Cheers, - Merov ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to k

[opensource-dev] Test plans / Acceptance Criteria for Snowstorm sprint 3

2010-09-10 Thread Philippe (Merov) Bossut
Hi, I went ahead and move VWR records to STORM for my sprint 3 tasks and added Test Plans (that was a follow up on the sprint review of this morning). The results are in the following records: - https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-106 - https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/STORM-115 - https://

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

2010-09-10 Thread Rob Nelson
Understand that since the Emerald fiasco, many viewer developers who have since "retired" are coming back either via user pressure or to take advantage of the power vacuum. I personally just finished fixing up Luna for messing about in InWorldz. Their developers seemed interested in my Lua e

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

2010-09-10 Thread dilly dobbs
I would like to know 2 things, as an observer. You continue to make statements like 'TPV developers' as if you speak for them all. Secondly, I distinctly remember you saying goodbye to us all, Is this your Hi im back statement? This isn't meant to be offensive im just trying to understand where

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

2010-09-10 Thread Henri Beauchamp
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 12:22:25 -0400, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > On 2010-09-09 7:15, Aidan Thornton wrote: > > On 9/8/10, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > >> * Take down the Snowglobe subversion repository > > That's going to be kinda obnoxious, because it means non-Linden La

Re: [opensource-dev] esbee hour transcripts?

2010-09-10 Thread Kent Quirk (Q Linden)
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Esbee_Linden/Office_Hours/2010-09-08 On Sep 10, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Erin Mallory wrote: > Is there a link to the transcripts of esbee's last office hour? I kinda need > them to proceed with the next phase for some of the user stories I am working > on :) > _

[opensource-dev] esbee hour transcripts?

2010-09-10 Thread Erin Mallory
Is there a link to the transcripts of esbee's last office hour? I kinda need them to proceed with the next phase for some of the user stories I am working on :) ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information avail

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

2010-09-10 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2010-09-10 14:30, Daniel Smith wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) mailto:o...@lindenlab.com>> wrote: Eventually (and there is _no_ plan for when this will be - certainly longer than 3 months), it will no longer be possible for us to continue

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

2010-09-10 Thread Daniel Smith
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) < o...@lindenlab.com> wrote: > > Eventually (and there is _no_ plan for when this will be - certainly > longer than 3 months), it will no longer be possible for us to continue > to support viewers based on the 1.x code base (including our

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

2010-09-10 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2010-09-09 7:15, Aidan Thornton wrote: > On 9/8/10, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: >> * Remove viewer-external from hg.secondlife.com > Am I right in thinking there's no revision history in here that isn't > available in more useful and fine-grained form in viewer-external? That

[opensource-dev] Next Viewer version (was Re: Snowstorm clarification)

2010-09-10 Thread Ponzu
So, given all that, when will the Version of the viewer be rolled out? Do we know what its version number will be? Who decides? At that point, will there be a new Beta version? Same questions as above. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information availa

[opensource-dev] Getting JIRA data from scripts

2010-09-10 Thread Latif Khalifa
In case some of you wrote JIRA helper objects that got broken with the JIRA updates recently here is a few hints: Appending ?os_authType=guest to the end of the request will bypass the OpenID check and allow you script to get the code directly, for example http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/WEB-27

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Banning TPV not on the TPV list

2010-09-10 Thread Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence)
On 2010-09-09 1:59, Francesco Rabbi wrote: > Hello Altair! > I wanted to respond to a comment you made on the opensource-dev list. > > You said "imho*ALL* non TPV listed viewers should be blacklisted" All viewers must comply with the Third Party Viewer Policy. Viewers in the directory

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm clarification

2010-09-10 Thread Robin Cornelius
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 3:30 AM, Kitty wrote: > Maybe I missed something when Snowstorm was announced, but I was under the > impression that LL was going to be more "open" about viewer development. > > Before Snowstorm there were "code drops" into viewer-external on SVN several > times a week (or