Re: [opensource-dev] in-viewer translation is dead soon.

2011-05-28 Thread Marc Adored
I think the reason you think some book(s) might be more then what SL would do to google translator is because you have no idea how much text chat traffic SL has. It is way more text then and whole series of books could have every few minutes really. I dont think anyone has said it was SL that has c

Re: [opensource-dev] in-viewer translation is dead soon.

2011-05-28 Thread Pat Nad
In case you didn't noticed, the SL viewer has for many months provided a translator tool withing its viewer. That is if you talk in local chat with people of other language, it translate everything automaticly. So it is this service that will be affected by Google policy change, as well as pret

Re: [opensource-dev] in-viewer translation is dead soon.

2011-05-28 Thread aklo
Hey Everybody, i don't know if i misunderstood or not, but are you really talking about Google translation services particularly picking on SL access? All the mail sounded to me like it was more of a policy decision at Google affecting everyone everywhere? It seems to me that way worse abuse has

Re: [opensource-dev] in-viewer translation is dead soon.

2011-05-28 Thread Starfire
On 5/28/2011 9:49 PM, WolfPup Lowenhar wrote: > Here is some possible reasons that the line of test you type gets translated > for you: > a) you do not type a phrase in that is 'clear' in the language you normally > use so the viewer translates it. > b) you use a 'slang' term so the viewer transl

Re: [opensource-dev] in-viewer translation is dead soon.

2011-05-28 Thread WolfPup Lowenhar
Here is some possible reasons that the line of test you type gets translated for you: a) you do not type a phrase in that is 'clear' in the language you normally use so the viewer translates it. b) you use a 'slang' term so the viewer translates it. c) you use a 'barrowed' phrase so the viewer tran

Re: [opensource-dev] in-viewer translation is dead soon.

2011-05-28 Thread Marc Adored
I like that idea on translate what they want. Also that translating your own text for you is what im talking about. Wastefulness because no restrain was made and yes it should only translate text coming from a viewer with a different language set. This things along with some caching would make it v

Re: [opensource-dev] in-viewer translation is dead soon.

2011-05-28 Thread Starfire
Just curious... why translate anything if everyone within hearing range have the same language set up? And why is it trying to translate my own typing for me to see? "Me: ty (company)" How about an option in the history window (or somewhere) where you can choose a line of text and request a

Re: [opensource-dev] in-viewer translation is dead soon.

2011-05-28 Thread Marc Adored
I think the main issue here is abuse due to bad coding. The real discussion should not be who it needs to move to or what other service can be abused next it should be how do we write better code to lesson the burden on whatever service we use. Secondlife has a LARGE userbase therefore any usage wi

Re: [opensource-dev] in-viewer translation is dead soon.

2011-05-28 Thread Daniel
The problem as pointed out by Tateru Nino on her blog is that Google is huge, and their users will "fail over" to other services like you are suggesting, causing them to get overloaded also. In that case, they may also decide it is too expensive to stay open, causing a chain reaction. Note tha