Re: [opensource-wg] Most popular open source firewall in the world

2024-03-01 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming via opensource-wg
Dear Martin,

I prefer to use the open source firewall that is the most popular in the world 
to get a feel-good feeling.

Based on my research in online shopping platforms like Lazada, many online 
shops are selling hardware appliances that claim to be compatible with pfsense 
and opnsense. pfsense and opnsense are the most frequently mentioned open 
source firewalls in Lazada and other online shopping platforms.

Regards,

Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Targeted Individual in Singapore

On Tuesday, February 20th, 2024 at 4:50 AM, Martin Winter  
wrote:

> I think the whole question is wrong.
> 
> I don't see there to be one BEST product. It all matters for the
> application. What is required (i.e. features, support, performance
> etc). What is the know-how of the enduser? Does it require a simple
> graphic interface? Or is a CLI preferred? Or both needed? Do you just
> need a single setup or is this which should be rolled out to various
> remote locations? Do you require it to run on a specific hardware or
> OS?
> 
> If you really want to help to select something and not just doing some
> marketing research, then explain your situation and ask for
> suggestions for it.
> 
> Regards,
> Martin Winter
> 
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 4:57 PM Julius ter Pelkwijk pelkw...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > Hey,
> > 
> > As someone who works a lot with AI, I have to say that chatGPT relies on 
> > what it can find on the internet. The first page I found was from pfsense, 
> > claiming it to be the "world's most trusted open source firewall". The 
> > Dutch call this a "wij van wc-eend", a phrase made by a company to claim 
> > that their product is the best.
> > 
> > I tend to use UFW, but I know people who use Shorewall and CSF. Its a case 
> > of "preference" and what you want to use the firewall for.
> > 
> > Greetings,
> > 
> > Julius
> > 
> > On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 3:54 PM Klaas Tammling klaas@tammling.hamburg wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I mean just from a quick search there are a bunch of great opensource 
> > > firewalls. Some more popular than others, depending on the use case.
> > > 
> > > The first one which would come into my mind is OPNSense, a fork of 
> > > pfsense. I use it myself and it works great.
> > > 
> > > Another one could be IPFire and IPCop.
> > > 
> > > This site is in German but it lists a few, you could evaluate if you 
> > > search for something new (not affiliated with that site): 
> > > https://aware7.com/de/blog/die-12-besten-open-source-firewalls/
> > > 
> > > All the best,
> > > 
> > > Klaas
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Von: opensource-wg opensource-wg-boun...@ripe.net im Auftrag von 
> > > Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming via opensource-wg opensource-wg@ripe.net
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 19. Februar 2024 15:33
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> > > Cc: c...@teo-en-ming-corp.com c...@teo-en-ming-corp.com
> > > Betreff: [opensource-wg] Most popular open source firewall in the world
> > > 
> > > Subject: Most popular open source firewall in the world
> > > 
> > > Good day from Singapore,
> > > 
> > > I am using pfsense community edition 2.7.2 firewall at home.
> > > 
> > > Recently I asked ChatGPT. ChatGPT says pfsense is the singular most 
> > > popular open source firewall in the world.
> > > 
> > > Is pfsense really the most popular open source firewall in the world?
> > > If there is more than one, please provide a list of the most popular open 
> > > source firewall(s) in the world as well.
> > > Preferably from well accredited sources.
> > > 
> > > Thank you.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> > > Targeted Individual in Singapore
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Re: [opensource-wg] Most popular open source firewall in the world

2024-03-01 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming via opensource-wg
Dear Julius,

I prefer to use a firewall distro that could secure the entire network like 
pfsense, opnsense, ipfire, etc.

I personally feel that UFW, shorewall and CSF are too basic and they are 
host-based solutions, that is, they can only secure the computers they are 
installed on, not the entire network.

Regards,

Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Targeted Individual in Singapore

On Monday, February 19th, 2024 at 11:56 PM, Julius ter Pelkwijk 
 wrote:

> Hey,
>
> As someone who works a lot with AI, I have to say that chatGPT relies on what 
> it can find on the internet. The first page I found was from pfsense, 
> claiming it to be the "world's most trusted open source firewall". The Dutch 
> call this a "wij van wc-eend", a phrase made by a company to claim that their 
> product is the best.
>
> I tend to use UFW, but I know people who use Shorewall and CSF. Its a case of 
> "preference" and what you want to use the firewall for.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Julius
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 3:54 PM Klaas Tammling  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I mean just from a quick search there are a bunch of great opensource 
>> firewalls. Some more popular than others, depending on the use case.
>>
>> The first one which would come into my mind is OPNSense, a fork of pfsense. 
>> I use it myself and it works great.
>>
>> Another one could be IPFire and IPCop.
>>
>> This site is in German but it lists a few, you could evaluate if you search 
>> for something new (not affiliated with that site): 
>> https://aware7.com/de/blog/die-12-besten-open-source-firewalls/
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Klaas
>>
>> ---
>>
>> Von: opensource-wg  im Auftrag von 
>> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming via opensource-wg 
>> Gesendet: Montag, 19. Februar 2024 15:33
>> An: opensource-wg@ripe.net 
>> Cc: c...@teo-en-ming-corp.com 
>> Betreff: [opensource-wg] Most popular open source firewall in the world
>>
>> Subject: Most popular open source firewall in the world
>>
>> Good day from Singapore,
>>
>> I am using pfsense community edition 2.7.2 firewall at home.
>>
>> Recently I asked ChatGPT. ChatGPT says pfsense is the singular most popular 
>> open source firewall in the world.
>>
>> Is pfsense really the most popular open source firewall in the world?
>> If there is more than one, please provide a list of the most popular open 
>> source firewall(s) in the world as well.
>> Preferably from well accredited sources.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
>> Targeted Individual in Singapore
>>
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Re: [opensource-wg] Most popular open source firewall in the world

2024-03-01 Thread Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming via opensource-wg
Dear Klaas,

Thanks for the link.

IPCop is an abandoned opensource firewall project.

I personally feel ipfire is not as good as pfsense.

Regards,

Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Targeted Individual in Singapore

On Monday, February 19th, 2024 at 10:53 PM, Klaas Tammling 
 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I mean just from a quick search there are a bunch of great opensource 
> firewalls. Some more popular than others, depending on the use case.
>
> The first one which would come into my mind is OPNSense, a fork of pfsense. I 
> use it myself and it works great.
>
> Another one could be IPFire and IPCop.
>
> This site is in German but it lists a few, you could evaluate if you search 
> for something new (not affiliated with that site): 
> https://aware7.com/de/blog/die-12-besten-open-source-firewalls/
>
> All the best,
>
> Klaas
>
> ---
>
> Von: opensource-wg  im Auftrag von 
> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming via opensource-wg 
> Gesendet: Montag, 19. Februar 2024 15:33
> An: opensource-wg@ripe.net 
> Cc: c...@teo-en-ming-corp.com 
> Betreff: [opensource-wg] Most popular open source firewall in the world
>
> Subject: Most popular open source firewall in the world
>
> Good day from Singapore,
>
> I am using pfsense community edition 2.7.2 firewall at home.
>
> Recently I asked ChatGPT. ChatGPT says pfsense is the singular most popular 
> open source firewall in the world.
>
> Is pfsense really the most popular open source firewall in the world?
> If there is more than one, please provide a list of the most popular open 
> source firewall(s) in the world as well.
> Preferably from well accredited sources.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> Targeted Individual in Singapore
>
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Re: [opensource-wg] Most popular open source firewall in the world

2024-02-19 Thread Martin Winter
I think the whole question is wrong.

I don't see there to be one BEST product. It all matters for the
application. What is required (i.e. features, support, performance
etc). What is the know-how of the enduser? Does it require a simple
graphic interface? Or is a CLI preferred? Or both needed? Do you just
need a single setup or is this which should be rolled out to various
remote locations? Do you require it to run on a specific hardware or
OS?

If you really want to help to select something and not just doing some
marketing research, then explain your situation and ask for
suggestions for it.

Regards,
   Martin Winter

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 4:57 PM Julius ter Pelkwijk  wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> As someone who works a lot with AI, I have to say that chatGPT relies on what 
> it can find on the internet. The first page I found was from pfsense, 
> claiming it to be the "world's most trusted open source firewall". The Dutch 
> call this a "wij van wc-eend", a phrase made by a company to claim that their 
> product is the best.
>
> I tend to use UFW, but I know people who use Shorewall and CSF. Its a case of 
> "preference" and what you want to use the firewall for.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Julius
>
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 3:54 PM Klaas Tammling  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I mean just from a quick search there are a bunch of great opensource 
>> firewalls. Some more popular than others, depending on the use case.
>>
>> The first one which would come into my mind is OPNSense, a fork of pfsense. 
>> I use it myself and it works great.
>>
>> Another one could be IPFire and IPCop.
>>
>> This site is in German but it lists a few, you could evaluate if you search 
>> for something new (not affiliated with that site): 
>> https://aware7.com/de/blog/die-12-besten-open-source-firewalls/
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Klaas
>>
>> 
>> Von: opensource-wg  im Auftrag von 
>> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming via opensource-wg 
>> Gesendet: Montag, 19. Februar 2024 15:33
>> An: opensource-wg@ripe.net 
>> Cc: c...@teo-en-ming-corp.com 
>> Betreff: [opensource-wg] Most popular open source firewall in the world
>>
>> Subject: Most popular open source firewall in the world
>>
>> Good day from Singapore,
>>
>> I am using pfsense community edition 2.7.2 firewall at home.
>>
>> Recently I asked ChatGPT. ChatGPT says pfsense is the singular most popular 
>> open source firewall in the world.
>>
>> Is pfsense really the most popular open source firewall in the world?
>> If there is more than one, please provide a list of the most popular open 
>> source firewall(s) in the world as well.
>> Preferably from well accredited sources.
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
>> Targeted Individual in Singapore
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [opensource-wg] Most popular open source firewall in the world

2024-02-19 Thread Julius ter Pelkwijk
Hey,

As someone who works a lot with AI, I have to say that chatGPT relies on
what it can find on the internet. The first page I found was from pfsense,
claiming it to be the "world's most trusted open source firewall". The
Dutch call this a "wij van wc-eend", a phrase made by a company to claim
that their product is the best.

I tend to use UFW, but I know people who use Shorewall and CSF. Its a case
of "preference" and what you want to use the firewall for.

Greetings,

Julius

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 3:54 PM Klaas Tammling 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I mean just from a quick search there are a bunch of great opensource
> firewalls. Some more popular than others, depending on the use case.
>
> The first one which would come into my mind is OPNSense, a fork of
> pfsense. I use it myself and it works great.
>
> Another one could be IPFire and IPCop.
>
> This site is in German but it lists a few, you could evaluate if you
> search for something new (not affiliated with that site):
> https://aware7.com/de/blog/die-12-besten-open-source-firewalls/
>
> All the best,
>
> Klaas
>
> --
> *Von:* opensource-wg  im Auftrag von
> Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming via opensource-wg 
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 19. Februar 2024 15:33
> *An:* opensource-wg@ripe.net 
> *Cc:* c...@teo-en-ming-corp.com 
> *Betreff:* [opensource-wg] Most popular open source firewall in the world
>
> Subject: Most popular open source firewall in the world
>
> Good day from Singapore,
>
> I am using pfsense community edition 2.7.2 firewall at home.
>
> Recently I asked ChatGPT. ChatGPT says pfsense is the singular most
> popular open source firewall in the world.
>
> Is pfsense really the most popular open source firewall in the world?
> If there is more than one, please provide a list of the most popular open
> source firewall(s) in the world as well.
> Preferably from well accredited sources.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
> Targeted Individual in Singapore
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [opensource-wg] Most popular open source firewall in the world

2024-02-19 Thread Klaas Tammling
Hi,

I mean just from a quick search there are a bunch of great opensource 
firewalls. Some more popular than others, depending on the use case.

The first one which would come into my mind is OPNSense, a fork of pfsense. I 
use it myself and it works great.

Another one could be IPFire and IPCop.

This site is in German but it lists a few, you could evaluate if you search for 
something new (not affiliated with that site): 
https://aware7.com/de/blog/die-12-besten-open-source-firewalls/

All the best,

Klaas


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Dohrnii Teo En Ming via opensource-wg 
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Subject: Most popular open source firewall in the world

Good day from Singapore,

I am using pfsense community edition 2.7.2 firewall at home.

Recently I asked ChatGPT. ChatGPT says pfsense is the singular most popular 
open source firewall in the world.

Is pfsense really the most popular open source firewall in the world?
If there is more than one, please provide a list of the most popular open 
source firewall(s) in the world as well.
Preferably from well accredited sources.

Thank you.

Regards,

Mr. Turritopsis Dohrnii Teo En Ming
Targeted Individual in Singapore








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