Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-04 Thread Florian Weimer
On 06/01/2014 09:28 AM, Janpopan wrote: is there a list of currently supported platforms? Which platforms are deprecaded an could/should be removed in the sourcecode? MS-DOS? Windows 16 Bit? OS/2? Windows 95/98/ME? Windows NT/2000/XP? I think there is plenty of code which assumes size_t (and

Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-03 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Wed, Jun 04, 2014 at 09:14:18AM +1000, Peter Waltenberg wrote: > > This is NOT the Linux kernel, the Linux kernel is directly funded by > several of the larger companies, they have employees contributing directly > on the kernel, with access to internal hardware resources. Yes, and I'm saying

Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-03 Thread Peter Waltenberg
shhooks than the obvious, export compliance is the obvious problem, but there are other issues, trust for example. Peter From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: openssl-dev@openssl.org Date: 04/06/2014 12:18 AM Subject: Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in t

Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-03 Thread Geoffrey Thorpe
I don't disagree (or I certainly don't disagree completely) with anything that has been said so far. But I think it's easy to assign disproportionate angst to this or that problem. For example, and that's all this is, but one of the most serious issues I think we have in the openssl code is that m

RE: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-03 Thread Salz, Rich
> especially Stephen Henson, who has kept it together in much the same way as > Keith Richards did the Stones. With no disrespect intended to either man, I have to say that this is an analogy that never would have occurred to me in a million years. /r$ -- Principal Security Engineer

Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-03 Thread Michael Sierchio
On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > There's a very simple solution to that problem, especially since we > now have the support and attention of many hardware companies. The > rule should be very simple. If a company doesn't contribute either > (a) exclusive, dedicated hardwar

Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-03 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 02:22:07PM +1000, Peter Waltenberg wrote: > > One of the uglier problems is that unless you can build/test on all the > platforms on each change you'll almost certainly break platforms > unexpectedly - that lack of hardware has been one of the long term problems > and it's

Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-02 Thread Peter Waltenberg
Ts'o" To: openssl-dev@openssl.org Date: 03/06/2014 12:55 PM Subject: Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed? Sent by:owner-openssl-...@openssl.org On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 12:20:17PM +1000, Peter Walte

Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-02 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 12:20:17PM +1000, Peter Waltenberg wrote: > (c) EBCDIC. > > z/OS is still alive. I'll concede that one is weird and hard to get hold > of, but it has a lot of users still. z/OS supports ASCII, and UTF-8, and has its own conversion routines built into the system. So it's

Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-02 Thread Peter Waltenberg
7;live' platform. Peter From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: openssl-dev@openssl.org Date: 03/06/2014 12:01 PM Subject:Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed? Sent by:owner-openssl-...@openssl.o

Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-02 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 11:22:58AM +1000, Peter Waltenberg wrote: > > I won't argue that sometimes legacy support makes the code hard to read, > but in itself I don't think it's causing bugs. The OpenBSD people are right here. If it's hard to read, then we don't have many eyeballs on the code.

Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-02 Thread Peter Waltenberg
eodore Ts'o" To: openssl-dev@openssl.org Date: 03/06/2014 02:30 AM Subject: Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed? Sent by:owner-openssl-...@openssl.org On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 03:38:22PM +0200, stefan.

Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-02 Thread Janpopan
Am 02.06.2014 17:42, schrieb Theodore Ts'o: > On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 03:38:22PM +0200, stefan.n...@t-online.de wrote: >> * How much do you gain by removing support for the platform? >> >> Is there any relevant amount of code, that is really NT/2000/XP specific >> and unneeded for newer Windows rel

Re: AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-02 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 03:38:22PM +0200, stefan.n...@t-online.de wrote: > * How much do you gain by removing support for the platform? > > Is there any relevant amount of code, that is really NT/2000/XP specific > and unneeded for newer Windows releases? Breaking the support for > the ancient pla

Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-02 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Jeff Trawick wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:38 AM, stefan.n...@t-online.de < > stefan.n...@t-online.de> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> > > Which platforms are deprecaded an could/should be removed in the >> > > sourcecode? >> > > MS-DOS? >> > > Windows 16 Bi

Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-02 Thread Jeff Trawick
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:38 AM, stefan.n...@t-online.de < stefan.n...@t-online.de> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Which platforms are deprecaded an could/should be removed in the > > > sourcecode? > > > MS-DOS? > > > Windows 16 Bit? > > > OS/2? > > > Windows 95/98/ME? > > > Windows NT/2000/XP?

AW: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-02 Thread stefan.n...@t-online.de
Hi, > > Which platforms are deprecaded an could/should be removed in the > > sourcecode? > > MS-DOS? > > Windows 16 Bit? > > OS/2? > > Windows 95/98/ME? > > Windows NT/2000/XP? > > Necessary criteria for a platform to be included in the first list would be: > * Currency, i.e. a platfo

Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-02 Thread Pierre DELAAGE
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Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-01 Thread Ravi vyas
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Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-01 Thread Pierre Delaage
Hi All, I would like to add 3 points 1/ please add to the list Windows CE >= 5.0 / Windows Mobile >= 6 2/ MAY add a compatibility statement as this, for ANY platform : - compile with THOSE "development environmentS", - run on THOSE "runtime platforms" (hardware/ Os / emulators) - run on some

Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-01 Thread Viktor Dukhovni
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 10:55:09PM +0200, Dr. Stephen Henson wrote: > Well that's one of the issues we need to resolve. Apache now compiles with > OPENSSL_NO_SSL_INTERN but it needed some additional accessor functions before > it could. FWIW, Postfix TLS support predates OpenSSL 0.9.7, but the on

Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-01 Thread Dr. Stephen Henson
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014, Richard Moore wrote: > On 1 June 2014 19:38, Dr. Stephen Henson wrote: > > > > On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 01:39:54PM -0400, Salz, Rich wrote: > > > > Make structures opaque when possible and provide accessor functions. > > Within openssl itself use macros if you want. > > > >

Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-01 Thread Richard Moore
On 1 June 2014 19:38, Dr. Stephen Henson wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 01:39:54PM -0400, Salz, Rich wrote: > > > Make structures opaque when possible and provide accessor functions. > Within openssl itself use macros if you want. > > > > This has been on my list of things I want to see happe

Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-01 Thread Matt Caswell
On 01/06/14 19:38, Dr. Stephen Henson wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2014, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 01:39:54PM -0400, Salz, Rich wrote: >>> Make structures opaque when possible and provide accessor functions. Within >>> openssl itself use macros if you want. >> >> This has been

Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-01 Thread Dr. Stephen Henson
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 01:39:54PM -0400, Salz, Rich wrote: > > Make structures opaque when possible and provide accessor functions. Within > > openssl itself use macros if you want. > > This has been on my list of things I want to see happen for a long

Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-01 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Jun 01, 2014 at 01:39:54PM -0400, Salz, Rich wrote: > Make structures opaque when possible and provide accessor functions. Within > openssl itself use macros if you want. This has been on my list of things I want to see happen for a long time too. Together we removing some APIs. I also

RE: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-01 Thread Salz, Rich
The core team should come up with a list and announce the decision. SOON. Be firm. Say something like "in xxx months, support for these platforms will be dropped and we will start to remove that code." Encourage folks interested in supporting those platforms to maintain a fork. I don't care wh

Re: Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-01 Thread Matt Caswell
On 01/06/14 08:28, Janpopan wrote: > Hi all, > > is there a list of currently supported platforms? > > Which platforms are deprecaded an could/should be removed in the > sourcecode? > MS-DOS? > Windows 16 Bit? > OS/2? > Windows 95/98/ME? > Windows NT/2000/XP? Hi Jan You raise an interesting an

Which platforms will be supported in the future on which platforms will be removed?

2014-06-01 Thread Janpopan
Hi all, is there a list of currently supported platforms? Which platforms are deprecaded an could/should be removed in the sourcecode? MS-DOS? Windows 16 Bit? OS/2? Windows 95/98/ME? Windows NT/2000/XP? Cheers Jan __ OpenSSL Pr