Re: [openssl-users] possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2016-01-18 Thread custodio
are some questions: a) the insertion of the TAC in signing certificate is against the RFC 3161? b) If so, what would be the best place in TST to include the TAC or a reference to it? c) What do you think of including the TAC or a reference to it in a non critical extension of TSTInfo? Best

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-19 Thread kapetr
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Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-18 Thread Dragan Spasic
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Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-17 Thread kapetr
this is Error on creating the signature properties of the timestamp: verification error so that means, this is not conforming to RFC 3161 ..., because Adobe Acrobat does ... But it could be consequence of using this testing TSA - maybe could help to add the root certificate of this testing TSA

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-17 Thread Walter H.
Zeitstempels: Verifizierungsfehler in English this is Error on creating the signature properties of the timestamp: verification error so that means, this is not conforming to RFC 3161 ..., because Adobe Acrobat does ... But it could be consequence of using this testing TSA - maybe could help

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-17 Thread kapetr
Erstellen der Unterschriftseigenschaften des Zeitstempels: Verifizierungsfehler in English this is Error on creating the signature properties of the timestamp: verification error so that means, this is not conforming to RFC 3161 ..., because Adobe Acrobat does ... But it could be consequence

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-17 Thread Walter H.
On 17.03.2013 18:48, kap...@mizera.cz wrote: be verified - the same as you had ... OpenSSL and Adobe conform to RFC 3161; but not this TSA ... correct, the error message means, that the received timestamp could not But the discussed TSA postsignum would not exist at all if there would

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-17 Thread kapetr
Dne 17.3.2013 19:08, Walter H. napsal(a): ?= it could be probably problem on yours side. not really ... What Adobe product and version are you using ? Maybe too old ? not newest, but RFC 3161 is old, too If you use older version of Adobe, it maybe do not support attribute certificates

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-16 Thread kapetr
Dne 15.3.2013 20:24, Walter H. napsal(a): are you shure this TSA is working at all? Of course, it is the One TSA in our coutry. can you give me for a try userid and pwd, then I may find out where the bug is; Unfortunately not, it is official paid service. But You can make tests on testing

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-16 Thread kapetr
. This resolves issues when TSAs add attribute certs etc. Since RFC 3161 does not require a client to check anything else than the presence of the signer cert (and even is is badly written), I think the verification of a chain in the ess was not appropriate logic. regards

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-16 Thread kapetr
and it must be in the first Esscertid. This resolves issues when TSAs add attribute certs etc. Since RFC 3161 does not require a client to check anything else than the presence of the signer cert (and even is is badly written), I think the verification of a chain in the ess was not appropriate logic

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-16 Thread kapetr
Dne 16.3.2013 12:58, Walter H. napsal(a): Unfortunately not, it is official paid service. But You can make tests on testing TSA: http://www.postsignum.cz/testovaci_casova_razitka.html I don't understand this language; can you tell me the URL of this Test TSA? Try to use

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-16 Thread Walter H.
the signature properties of the timestamp: verification error so that means, this is not conforming to RFC 3161 ..., because Adobe Acrobat does ... Greetings, Walter smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-15 Thread Walter H.
On 13.03.2013 01:19, kap...@mizera.cz wrote: Dne 12.3.2013 20:36, Walter H. napsal(a): Hello, I found the following: http://tsa.postsignum.cz:444 do you have account by this TSA ? No. if there is a need to have an account; then this page is not conforming to any RFC - HTTP 400 is not an

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-15 Thread Peter Sylvester
have weakend the Esscertid logic a bit. Only the signer certficate is checked and it must be in the first Esscertid. This resolves issues when TSAs add attribute certs etc. Since RFC 3161 does not require a client to check anything else than the presence of the signer cert (and even is is badly

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-12 Thread Peter Sylvester
On 03/11/2013 11:17 PM, kap...@mizera.cz wrote: That is what we talk about here. Try to check previous posts in this thread. rfc 3126 tells This document mandates the presence of this attribute as a signed CMS attribute, and the sequence must not be empty. The certificate used to

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-12 Thread Peter Sylvester
On 03/12/2013 09:30 AM, kap...@mizera.cz wrote: RFC 3161 is written badly. The whole text was a joke anyway. The requester SHALL verify that the TimeStampToken contains the correct certificate identifier of the TSA One may conclude that openssl should simply not validate anything

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-12 Thread kapetr
Dne 12.3.2013 11:54, Peter Sylvester napsal(a): On 03/12/2013 09:30 AM, kap...@mizera.cz wrote: RFC 3161 is written badly. The whole text was a joke anyway. The requester SHALL verify that the TimeStampToken contains the correct certificate identifier of the TSA One may

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-12 Thread Walter H.
Hello, I found the following: http://tsa.postsignum.cz:444 produces the following error, when using this as time stamp server with adobe standard/pro BER decoding error what software do they use? my solution with OpenSSL works ... Greetings, Walter smime.p7s Description: S/MIME

Re: [openssl-users] Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-12 Thread Erwann Abalea
You should have received an HTTP 400 error, with an HTML page. The service behind it may not be RFC3161 compliant, it may even not be advertised as RFC3161 compliant. Your solution works, but it doesn't answer the problem. -- Erwann ABALEA - québésectophile: séparatiste québécois Le

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-12 Thread kapetr
Dne 12.3.2013 20:36, Walter H. napsal(a): Hello, I found the following: http://tsa.postsignum.cz:444 do you have account by this TSA ? produces the following error, when using this as time stamp server with adobe standard/pro BER decoding error Are you sure you (adobe program) get

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread kapetr
timestamps contain in addition Time Attribute Certificate - TAC included according to RFC 3126. They are RFC 3161 according and other clients works OK, it must be bug of OpenSSL. My knowledge is too low and I'm not programmer to debug and understand it. Can someone test it, please

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread Richard Könning
Am 11.03.2013 13:01, schrieb kap...@mizera.cz: P.S: is this forum monitored by developers of openssl or should I report it in devel forum? At least Stephen Henson answers regularily in this mailing list (as you can see by looking into a couple of threads), therefore i would stay in this

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread Dr. Stephen Henson
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013, Richard Knning wrote: Am 11.03.2013 13:01, schrieb kap...@mizera.cz: P.S: is this forum monitored by developers of openssl or should I report it in devel forum? At least Stephen Henson answers regularily in this mailing list (as you can see by looking into a couple

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread kapetr
Hello, Dne 11.3.2013 17:33, Dr. Stephen Henson napsal(a): As to the OP query. I'm not that familiar with the timestamping code. OpenSSL doesn't support attribute certificates and adding support is not trivial. The attribute certificates are common possible in CMS, not just in TS = attr.

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread Peter Sylvester
On 03/11/2013 06:43 PM, kap...@mizera.cz wrote: Hello, ... As I know, the attr. certs are not very necessary = that is why I mean, that temporary solution would be to ignore them in verification process. At least in TS it would solve the problem. Just for info: converting te stuff to

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread kapetr
Could you please explain it in detail ? Commands sentence as example ? INPUT: - timestamp reply - certificates (whole chain) COMMANDS: OUTPUT: successful verification Thanks --kapetr Dne 11.3.2013 19:39, Peter Sylvester napsal(a): On 03/11/2013 06:43 PM, kap...@mizera.cz wrote:

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread Dr. Stephen Henson
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013, kap...@mizera.cz wrote: Hello, Dne 11.3.2013 17:33, Dr. Stephen Henson napsal(a): As to the OP query. I'm not that familiar with the timestamping code. OpenSSL doesn't support attribute certificates and adding support is not trivial. The attribute certificates are

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread kapetr
Of course YES. Timestamp reply is nothing else as CMS SignedData structure. --kapetr Dne 11.3.2013 19:51, Dr. Stephen Henson napsal(a): On Mon, Mar 11, 2013, kap...@mizera.cz wrote: Hello, Dne 11.3.2013 17:33, Dr. Stephen Henson napsal(a): As to the OP query. I'm not that familiar with the

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread Walter H.
Hello, try this for generating the TSA-reply openssl ts -reply -config openssl.cnf -section tsa_timestamp -queryfile TSA-query -inkey ts.key -signer ts.crt -out TSA-reply where ts.crt and ts.key are the timestamping certificate and private key (without passphrase) and TSA-query is the

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread Peter Sylvester
the second ess certid says SEQUENCE { OCTET STRING 52 EE 29 A7 35 03 04 F8 94 21 48 72 76 9F 24 78 EB 6C D7 AC } by 3721926ea67e877df5f4e35dd3c87397eef33d4f is the hash of the der version of te

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread Peter Sylvester
On 03/11/2013 08:01 PM, kap...@mizera.cz wrote: Of course YES. Timestamp reply is nothing else as CMS SignedData structure. not quite but ts -reply -tokenout converts it to such a thing __ OpenSSL Project

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread kapetr
Thank you, but this thread is about TS from real Certification Authority and problem with attribute certificates. --kapetr Dne 11.3.2013 21:16, Walter H. napsal(a): Hello, try this for generating the TSA-reply openssl ts -reply -config openssl.cnf -section tsa_timestamp -queryfile

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread kapetr
Dne 11.3.2013 21:42, Peter Sylvester napsal(a): the second ess certid says SEQUENCE { OCTET STRING 52 EE 29 A7 35 03 04 F8 94 21 48 72 76 9F 24 78 EB 6C D7 AC } by

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread Peter Sylvester
On 03/11/2013 10:31 PM, kap...@mizera.cz wrote: Dne 11.3.2013 21:42, Peter Sylvester napsal(a): the second ess certid says SEQUENCE { OCTET STRING 52 EE 29 A7 35 03 04 F8 94 21 48 72 76 9F 24 78 EB 6C D7 AC

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread kapetr
That is what we talk about here. Try to check previous posts in this thread. --kapetr Dne 11.3.2013 22:51, Peter Sylvester napsal(a): On 03/11/2013 10:31 PM, kap...@mizera.cz wrote: Dne 11.3.2013 21:42, Peter Sylvester napsal(a): the second ess certid says SEQUENCE {

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread kapetr
Just note. I accidentally deleted: http://2i.cz/dcc5b69c4f Here is new copy: http://2i.cz/0f81f2d80b __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-03-11 Thread Walter H.
Do you think OpenSSL is a game? On 11.03.2013 22:02, kap...@mizera.cz wrote: Thank you, but this thread is about TS from real Certification Authority and problem with attribute certificates. --kapetr Dne 11.3.2013 21:16, Walter H. napsal(a): Hello, try this for generating the TSA-reply

Re: RFC 3161 GUI Inspector

2013-02-03 Thread kapetr
should be possible even for no-programmer. What about access via web form ? --kapetr Dne 1.2.2013 23:55, Jaime Hablutzel Egoavil napsal(a): Hi, maybe this question is a little bit off topic but I can't find anywhere to ask it. Do you know a RFC 3161 (time-stamp protocol) GUI that allows to create

Re: possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-01-13 Thread Jaroslav Imrich
translation - sorry): our timestamps contain in addition Time Attribute Certificate - TAC included according to RFC 3126. They are RFC 3161 according and other clients works OK, it must be bug of OpenSSL. My knowledge is too low and I'm not programmer to debug and understand it. Can someone test

possible Bug in OpenSSL - rfc 3161 - TSA service

2013-01-12 Thread kapetr
Hello, My CA Authority (Europe Union qualified!) claims - there is Bug in OpenSSL = verifying digi. timestamp fails. The CA says (my bad translation - sorry): our timestamps contain in addition Time Attribute Certificate - TAC included according to RFC 3126. They are RFC 3161 according

RFC 3161

2004-11-16 Thread Milan Tomic
Title: RFC 3161 Does OpenSSL implements RFC 3161 (timestamping)? Do you know for any toolkit supporting it? Thank you, Milan

Re: RFC 3161

2004-11-16 Thread Nils Larsch
Milan Tomic wrote: Does OpenSSL implements RFC 3161 (timestamping)? no Do you know for any toolkit supporting it? try: http://www.opentsa.org/ or https://www.openevidence.org/ Cheers, Nils __ OpenSSL Project

Re: Is it possible/appropriate to add a timestamp (RFC 3161) to a PKCS#7?

2002-06-09 Thread Zoltan Glozik
: Bob Steele [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Zoltán Glózik' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 6:42 PM Subject: Re: Is it possible/appropriate to add a timestamp (RFC 3161) to a PKCS#7? You are on the right track - it should be possible to attach a time stamp token to a PKCS7

RE: Is it possible/appropriate to add a timestamp (RFC 3161) to a PKCS#7?

2002-06-09 Thread Bob Steele
Hi Bob, Judging from what you wrote you might want to implement a 'content timestamp', which is added to the authenticated attributes and contains a timestamp over the encapsulated content info. This will not give a proof of the signing time, just the existence of the data at a

Re: Is it possible/appropriate to add a timestamp (RFC 3161) to a PKCS#7?

2002-06-07 Thread Vadim Fedukovich
On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 05:17:48PM -0700, Bob Steele wrote: This might be a nonsensical question, and if so it wouldn't be my first foolish question here: Is it possible or appropriate to add a timestamp object (RFC 3161) to a PKCS#7 signature during the signature's creation

Re: Is it possible/appropriate to add a timestamp (RFC 3161) to a PKCS#7?

2002-06-07 Thread Zoltán Glózik
Hi Bob, You are on the right track - it should be possible to attach a time stamp token to a PKCS7 token. However, there are several options depending on what you want to time stamp. The two most obvious ones being: - if you want to prove the existence of the orignal content at a particular

Re: Is it possible/appropriate to add a timestamp (RFC 3161) to aPKCS#7?

2002-06-07 Thread Rich Salz
No, Bob wants to know: Does PKCS#7 support additional signed attributes? The answer is yes. /r$ __ OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org User Support Mailing List