Re: [Openstack] OVS and quantum

2013-06-24 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear All
 I want to use OVS for my VMs. So which one i should do
 1) i use alway use quantum to control OVS. I believe quantum cannot 100% 
 control the OVS, so i can use ovs command line to control the additional 
 features.

Which features of OVS are you interested in which are currently not exposed 
through Neutron (formerly Quantum)?

 2) i shouldn't use quantum, i should leave quantum and use OVS directly. But 
 which parameter of nova boot can specific the OVS tap to a VM?
 
nova-networking is planned to be deprecated in the near future, FYI. It may be 
better to address your concerns in Neutron. Can you let us know what you're 
looking for in particular in OVS which is not exposed in Neutron yet?

Thanks,
Kyle

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Re: [Openstack] OVS and quantum

2013-06-24 Thread Peter Cheung
Hi KyleIs Neutron support this1) create vlan, adding a port(tap) for a 
vm?2) create vlan tag and assign to tap 
http://openvswitch.org/support/config-cookbooks/vlan-configuration-cookbook/   
?3) control the netflow of openvswitch4) control the QOS of openvswitch5) does 
it provide an API to do the avobe things instead of command line?
I think commercial user need to above things, so we want to support those 
actions in pandora.
Thanksfrom Peter

 From: kmest...@cisco.com
 To: mcheun...@hotmail.com
 CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net
 Subject: Re: [Openstack] OVS and quantum
 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:42:43 +
 
 On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote:
  
  Dear All
  I want to use OVS for my VMs. So which one i should do
  1) i use alway use quantum to control OVS. I believe quantum cannot 100% 
  control the OVS, so i can use ovs command line to control the additional 
  features.
 
 Which features of OVS are you interested in which are currently not exposed 
 through Neutron (formerly Quantum)?
 
  2) i shouldn't use quantum, i should leave quantum and use OVS directly. 
  But which parameter of nova boot can specific the OVS tap to a VM?
  
 nova-networking is planned to be deprecated in the near future, FYI. It may 
 be better to address your concerns in Neutron. Can you let us know what 
 you're looking for in particular in OVS which is not exposed in Neutron yet?
 
 Thanks,
 Kyle
 
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Re: [Openstack] OVS and quantum

2013-06-24 Thread Salvatore Orlando
A few comments inline from my side.

On 24 June 2013 14:53, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Kyle
 Is Neutron support this
 1) create vlan, adding a port(tap) for a vm?


I think this is one of Neutron's basic use cases, unless I'm missing
something.


 2) create vlan tag and assign to tap
 http://openvswitch.org/support/config-cookbooks/vlan-configuration-cookbook/
  ?


I'm not sure I see the difference with the previous case.
Are you referring to the ability of tagging a port which was not tagged
before?


 3) control the netflow of openvswitch


Nope, this is not supported by Neutron at the moment.
However, you can add an extension for it, if you wish.



 4) control the QOS of openvswitch


This feature is not supported by the 'reference' open source plugin (Open
vSwitch, Linux Bridge).
From what I gather now even the new ML2 plugin will have this capability.

Approaches for QoS in open source Quantum plugin have been recently
debated, but this feature is not on the roadmap for Havana.



 5) does it provide an API to do the avobe things instead of command line?


Neutron does *everything* through an API.



 I think commercial user need to above things, so we want to support those
 actions in pandora.

 Thanks
 from Peter


  From: kmest...@cisco.com
  To: mcheun...@hotmail.com
  CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net
  Subject: Re: [Openstack] OVS and quantum
  Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:42:43 +

 
  On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  
   Dear All
   I want to use OVS for my VMs. So which one i should do
   1) i use alway use quantum to control OVS. I believe quantum cannot
 100% control the OVS, so i can use ovs command line to control the
 additional features.
 
  Which features of OVS are you interested in which are currently not
 exposed through Neutron (formerly Quantum)?
 
   2) i shouldn't use quantum, i should leave quantum and use OVS
 directly. But which parameter of nova boot can specific the OVS tap to a
 VM?
  
  nova-networking is planned to be deprecated in the near future, FYI. It
 may be better to address your concerns in Neutron. Can you let us know what
 you're looking for in particular in OVS which is not exposed in Neutron yet?
 
  Thanks,
  Kyle
 
   Thanks
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Re: [Openstack] OVS and quantum

2013-06-24 Thread Peter Cheung
Thanks Salvatore. I think i should use Neutron to do all the stuffs first, 
because Neutron is the primary network component of openstack. If it doesn't 
support some functions, i just direct control the openvswitch, I hope i won't 
break the neutron.
Thanksfrom Peter

Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:06:25 +0100
Subject: Re: [Openstack] OVS and quantum
From: sorla...@nicira.com
To: mcheun...@hotmail.com
CC: kmest...@cisco.com; openstack@lists.launchpad.net

A few comments inline from my side.

On 24 June 2013 14:53, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote:




Hi KyleIs Neutron support this1) create vlan, adding a port(tap) for a vm?
I think this is one of Neutron's basic use cases, unless I'm missing something.
 2) create vlan tag and assign to tap 
http://openvswitch.org/support/config-cookbooks/vlan-configuration-cookbook/   ?

I'm not sure I see the difference with the previous case.Are you referring to 
the ability of tagging a port which was not tagged before? 
3) control the netflow of openvswitch

Nope, this is not supported by Neutron at the moment.However, you can add an 
extension for it, if you wish.
 
4) control the QOS of openvswitch
This feature is not supported by the 'reference' open source plugin (Open 
vSwitch, Linux Bridge).
From what I gather now even the new ML2 plugin will have this capability.
Approaches for QoS in open source Quantum plugin have been recently debated, 
but this feature is not on the roadmap for Havana.

 5) does it provide an API to do the avobe things instead of command line?

Neutron does *everything* through an API. 

I think commercial user need to above things, so we want to support those 
actions in pandora.
Thanksfrom Peter

 From: kmest...@cisco.com

 To: mcheun...@hotmail.com
 CC: openstack@lists.launchpad.net
 Subject: Re: [Openstack] OVS and quantum

 Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:42:43 +
 
 On Jun 24, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Peter Cheung mcheun...@hotmail.com wrote:
  

  Dear All
  I want to use OVS for my VMs. So which one i should do
  1) i use alway use quantum to control OVS. I believe quantum cannot 100% 
  control the OVS, so i can use ovs command line to control the additional 
  features.

 
 Which features of OVS are you interested in which are currently not exposed 
 through Neutron (formerly Quantum)?
 
  2) i shouldn't use quantum, i should leave quantum and use OVS directly. 
  But which parameter of nova boot can specific the OVS tap to a VM?

  
 nova-networking is planned to be deprecated in the near future, FYI. It may 
 be better to address your concerns in Neutron. Can you let us know what 
 you're looking for in particular in OVS which is not exposed in Neutron yet?

 
 Thanks,
 Kyle
 
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[Openstack] OVS and quantum

2013-06-23 Thread Peter Cheung
Dear AllI want to use OVS for my VMs. So which one i should do1) i use 
alway use quantum to control OVS. I believe quantum cannot 100% control the 
OVS, so i can use ovs command line to control the additional features.2) i 
shouldn't use quantum, i should leave quantum and use OVS directly. But which 
parameter of nova boot can specific the OVS tap to a VM?

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