Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-05-13 Thread Meghal Gosalia
Is any discussion on this topic scheduled during the summit ? Thanks, Meghal On Apr 9, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@gmail.commailto:sylvain.ba...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-04-07 23:11 GMT+02:00 Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@gmail.commailto:sylvain.ba...@gmail.com: Hi Phil,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-05-13 Thread Sylvain Bauza
There is a good talk happening today at 2pm @ room B.206 in a Breakout session : Divide and conquer: Resource Segregation in OpenStack (I'm sorry, I can't provide the sched.org link, site seems to be down) -Sylvain Le 13/05/2014 11:12, Meghal Gosalia a écrit : Is any discussion on this topic

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-09 Thread Day, Phil
-Original Message- From: Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: 08 April 2014 14:25 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 10:49 +, Day, Phil wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-09 Thread Day, Phil
-Original Message- From: Chris Friesen [mailto:chris.frie...@windriver.com] Sent: 08 April 2014 15:19 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? On 04/08/2014 07:25 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On Tue

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Friesen
On 04/09/2014 03:55 AM, Day, Phil wrote: I would guess that affinity is more likely to be a soft requirement that anti-affinity, in that I can see some services just not meeting their HA goals without anti-affinity but I'm struggling to think of a use case why affinity is a must for the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-09 Thread Sylvain Bauza
2014-04-07 23:11 GMT+02:00 Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@gmail.com: Hi Phil, 2014-04-07 18:48 GMT+02:00 Day, Phil philip@hp.com: Hi Sylvain, There was a similar thread on this recently - which might be worth reviewing:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-09 Thread Day, Phil
-Original Message- From: Chris Friesen [mailto:chris.frie...@windriver.com] Sent: 09 April 2014 15:37 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? On 04/09/2014 03:55 AM, Day, Phil wrote: I

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-09 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - -Original Message- From: Chris Friesen [mailto:chris.frie...@windriver.com] Sent: 09 April 2014 15:37 To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? On 04/09

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-08 Thread Khanh-Toan Tran
01:02 À : OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Objet : Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? On 3 April 2014 08:21, Khanh-Toan Tran khanh-toan.t...@cloudwatt.com wrote: Otherwise we cannot provide redundancy to client except

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-08 Thread Day, Phil
[mailto:ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk] Envoyé : mardi 8 avril 2014 01:02 À : OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Objet : Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? On 3 April 2014 08:21, Khanh-Toan Tran khanh-toan.t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-08 Thread Jay Pipes
the affinity criteria. Best, -jay From: Khanh-Toan Tran [mailto:khanh-toan.t...@cloudwatt.com] Sent: 08 April 2014 11:32 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? “Abusive usage

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-08 Thread Khanh-Toan Tran
-Message d'origine- De : Jay Pipes [mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com] Envoyé : mardi 8 avril 2014 15:25 À : openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Objet : Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 10:49 +, Day, Phil wrote

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-08 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 10:49 +, Day, Phil wrote: On a large cloud you’re protect against this to some extent if the number of servers is number of instances in the quota. However it does feel that there are a couple of things missing to really provide

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-08 Thread Chris Friesen
On 04/08/2014 07:25 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 10:49 +, Day, Phil wrote: On a large cloud you’re protect against this to some extent if the number of servers is number of instances in the quota. However it does feel that there are a couple of things missing to really

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-07 Thread Day, Phil
) might be useful. Phil From: Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services) Sent: 03 April 2014 16:34 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? Hi Sylvain, I would go with keeping AZs exclusive

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-07 Thread Jay Pipes
On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 16:48 +, Day, Phil wrote: Hi Sylvain, There was a similar thread on this recently – which might be worth reviewing: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-March/031006.html Some interesting use cases were posted, and a I don’t think a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-07 Thread Sylvain Bauza
...@cloudwatt.com] *Sent:* 03 April 2014 15:53 *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) *Subject:* Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? +1 for AZs not sharing hosts. Because it's the only mechanism that allows us

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-07 Thread Ian Wells
On 3 April 2014 08:21, Khanh-Toan Tran khanh-toan.t...@cloudwatt.comwrote: Otherwise we cannot provide redundancy to client except using Region which is dedicated infrastructure and networked separated and anti-affinity filter which IMO is not pragmatic as it has tendency of abusive usage.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-04 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Hi all, 2014-04-03 18:47 GMT+02:00 Meghal Gosalia meg...@yahoo-inc.com: Hello folks, Here is the bug [1] which is currently not allowing a host to be part of two availability zones. This bug was targeted for havana. The fix in the bug was made because it was assumed that openstack

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-04 Thread Meghal Gosalia
I am fine with taking the approach of user passing multiple avail. zones Az1,Az2 if he wants vm to be in (intersection of AZ1 and Az2). It will be more cleaner. But, similar approach should also be used while setting the default_scheduling_zone. Since, we will not be able to add host to

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-03 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Hi, I'm currently trying to reproduce [1]. This bug requires to have the same host on two different aggregates, each one having an AZ. IIRC, Nova API prevents hosts of being part of two distinct AZs [2], so IMHO this request should not be possible. That said, there are two flaws where I can

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-03 Thread Chris Friesen
On 04/03/2014 07:51 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Hi, I'm currently trying to reproduce [1]. This bug requires to have the same host on two different aggregates, each one having an AZ. IIRC, Nova API prevents hosts of being part of two distinct AZs [2], so IMHO this request should not be possible.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-03 Thread Khanh-Toan Tran
: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Objet : [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? Hi, I'm currently trying to reproduce [1]. This bug requires to have the same host on two different aggregates, each one having an AZ. IIRC, Nova

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-03 Thread Khanh-Toan Tran
- De : Chris Friesen [mailto:chris.frie...@windriver.com] Envoyé : jeudi 3 avril 2014 16:51 À : openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Objet : Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? On 04/03/2014 07:51 AM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: Hi, I'm currently

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-03 Thread Khanh-Toan Tran
Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Objet : RE: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? +1 for AZs not sharing hosts. Because it’s the only mechanism that allows us to segment the datacenter. Otherwise we cannot provide redundancy

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-03 Thread Murray, Paul (HP Cloud Services)
Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ? +1 for AZs not sharing hosts. Because it's the only mechanism that allows us to segment the datacenter. Otherwise we cannot provide redundancy to client except

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-03 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - Hi, I'm currently trying to reproduce [1]. This bug requires to have the same host on two different aggregates, each one having an AZ. IIRC, Nova API prevents hosts of being part of two distinct AZs [2], so IMHO this request should not be possible. That said,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-03 Thread Steve Gordon
- Original Message - Currently host aggregates are quite general, but the only ways for an end-user to make use of them are: 1) By making the host aggregate an availability zones (where each host is only supposed to be in one availability zone) and selecting it at instance

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Hosts within two Availability Zones : possible or not ?

2014-04-03 Thread Meghal Gosalia
Hello folks, Here is the bug [1] which is currently not allowing a host to be part of two availability zones. This bug was targeted for havana. The fix in the bug was made because it was assumed that openstack does not support adding hosts to two zones by design. The assumption was based on