[openstack-dev] [trove][tc] Seeking feedback on the OpenStack cloud vision

2018-10-24 Thread Zane Bitter
Greetings, Trove team! As you may be aware, I've been working with other folks in the community on documenting a vision for OpenStack clouds (formerly known as the 'Technical Vision') - essentially to interpret the mission statement in long-form, in a way that we can use to actually help guide

[openstack-dev] trove 10.0.0.0rc1 (rocky)

2018-08-09 Thread no-reply
Hello everyone, A new release candidate for trove for the end of the Rocky cycle is available! You can find the source code tarball at: https://tarballs.openstack.org/trove/ Unless release-critical issues are found that warrant a release candidate respin, this candidate will be formally

[openstack-dev] trove-dashboard 11.0.0.0rc1 (rocky)

2018-08-09 Thread no-reply
Hello everyone, A new release candidate for trove-dashboard for the end of the Rocky cycle is available! You can find the source code tarball at: https://tarballs.openstack.org/trove-dashboard/ Unless release-critical issues are found that warrant a release candidate respin, this

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Considering the transfter of the project leadership

2018-07-30 Thread 赵超
Dariusz Krol, That's great, thanks. Please submit your nomination asap, the deadline is today(2018-07-31 23:45:00 UTC). For detailed guidance about nomination, please refer to https://governance.openstack.org/election/. I think we need some work on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586528/2, and

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Considering the transfter of the project leadership

2018-07-30 Thread Dariusz Krol
Hello Zhao Chao, after some internal discussion, I will do the nomination if you decided not to nominate yourself. Thanks for letting know you will be still available in the next release cycle. Regarding commits I would recommend to consider also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/586528/2 .

Re: [openstack-dev] openstack-dev] [trove] Considering the transfter of the project leadership

2018-07-30 Thread Thierry Carrez
Dariusz Krol wrote: [...] On the other hand, I can also understand the lack of time to be a PTL since it requires probably a lot of time to coordinate all the work. Let’s wait for Chao Zhao to give his opinion on the topic :) If the PTL delegates the most time-intensive work (release

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Considering the transfter of the project leadership

2018-07-29 Thread 赵超
I found I made a mistake on the subject of this mail, so I corrected it in my last response, hope this won't make any further confusion. On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 9:26 AM, 赵超 wrote: > Since the new folks are still so new - if this works for you - I would >> recommend continuing on as the official

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Considering the transfter of the project leadership

2018-07-29 Thread 赵超
> > Since the new folks are still so new - if this works for you - I would > recommend continuing on as the official PTL for one more release, but with > the > understanding that you would just be around to answer questions and give > advice > to help the new team get up to speed. That should

Re: [openstack-dev] openstack-dev] [trove] Considering the transfter of the project leadership

2018-07-27 Thread Dariusz Krol
Hi Sean,   This is good point. It would be great to have some help especially to start. We have some experience with contributing to openstack and we are working with gerrit on daily basis so there is no problem with technical aspects. However, it takes some time for changes to be reviewed

Re: [openstack-dev] openstack-dev] [trove] Considering the transfter of the project leadership

2018-07-26 Thread Sean McGinnis
> > > > A good news is recently a team from Samsung R Center in Krakow, Poland > > joined us, they're building a product on OpenStack, have done improvments > > on Trove(internally), and now interested in contributing to the community, > > starting by migrating the intergating tests to the tempest

Re: [openstack-dev] openstack-dev] [trove] Considering the transfter of the project leadership

2018-07-26 Thread Dariusz Krol
Hello All, as a member of Samsung R Center in Krakow, I would like to confirm that we are very interested in Trove development. We also notices that Trove project has a small team now and that community around Trove becomes smaller with each release which is a shame since it is a great

Re: [openstack-dev] openstack-dev] [trove] Considering the transfter of the project leadership

2018-07-25 Thread 赵超
cc to the Trove team members and guys from Samsung R Center in Krakow, Poland privately, so anyone of them who are not reading the ML could also be notified. On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 12:09 AM, 赵超 wrote: > Hi All, > > Trove currently has a really small team, and all the active team members > are

[openstack-dev] openstack-dev] [trove] Considering the transfter of the project leadership

2018-07-25 Thread 赵超
Hi All, Trove currently has a really small team, and all the active team members are from China, we had some good discussions during the Rocky online PTG meetings[1], and the goals were arranged and priorited [2][3]. But it's sad that none of us could focus on the project, and the number of

[openstack-dev] [trove] Trove weekly meeting on April 4th, 2018 is cancelled

2018-04-02 Thread 赵超
Hi, Sorry for forgetting to discuss this on the last meeting, as here in China we'll on a vacation for Qingming Festival from April 5th, some core members may not be able to attend the meeting, so let's skip it, the next meeting will be Wednesday, April 11th, 2018. -- To be free as in freedom.

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] PTG planning, weekly meeting for Trove

2018-02-16 Thread Zhang Fan
Thanks for the kind reminder, still enjoy my Chinese New Year holidays, wish you the best luck in the new year :) From Fan’s plastic iPhone 在 2018年2月16日,02:16,Manoj Kumar > 写道: I would encourage everyone who is interested in providing input into

[openstack-dev] [trove] PTG planning, weekly meeting for Trove

2018-02-15 Thread Manoj Kumar
I would encourage everyone who is interested in providing input into the Rocky planning cycle for Trove to put their ideas into the etherpad at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-ptg-rocky There are a good number of topics posted already. We would welcome input from operators as well. We

[openstack-dev] [trove] trove 9.0.0.0rc1 (queens)

2018-02-08 Thread no-reply
Hello everyone, A new release candidate for trove for the end of the Queens cycle is available! You can find the source code tarball at: https://tarballs.openstack.org/trove/ Unless release-critical issues are found that warrant a release candidate respin, this candidate will be formally

[openstack-dev] [trove] trove-dashboard 10.0.0.0rc1 (queens)

2018-02-08 Thread no-reply
Hello everyone, A new release candidate for trove-dashboard for the end of the Queens cycle is available! You can find the source code tarball at: https://tarballs.openstack.org/trove-dashboard/ Unless release-critical issues are found that warrant a release candidate respin, this

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Retiring the trove-integration repository, final call

2018-02-04 Thread Andreas Jaeger
On 2018-01-26 22:22, Manoj Kumar wrote: > Initial indication was provided in July last year, that the > trove-integration repository was going away. > All the elements have been merged into trove, and are being maintained > there. > > I do not believe anyone spoke up then. If anyone is

[openstack-dev] [trove] Retiring the trove-integration repository, final call

2018-01-26 Thread Manoj Kumar
Initial indication was provided in July last year, that the trove-integration repository was going away. All the elements have been merged into trove, and are being maintained there. I do not believe anyone spoke up then. If anyone is depending on the separate repository, do speak up. Cheers,

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Not running for Trove PTL

2018-01-24 Thread Zhang Fan
What a pity. Thanks so much for your remarkable work for trove in the last cycle, it’s my pleasure to work with you. Wish you the best! From Fan’s plastic iPhone On 25 Jan 2018, at 00:24, Manoj Kumar > wrote: I have had the good fortune to be the

[openstack-dev] [trove] Not running for Trove PTL

2018-01-24 Thread Manoj Kumar
I have had the good fortune to be the PTL for Trove the last cycle. During this period, I was able to oversee a resurgence of community participation in Trove. As the project continues to evolve, it could use some new leadership. I wanted to clear the path for others to run. So I do not intend

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Changes to the Trove core team

2018-01-09 Thread Fei Long Wang
+1 and congrats! On 10/01/18 12:10, Manoj Kumar wrote: > I would like to announce the following changes to the Trove core > reviewers: > > -amrith > +maciej.jozefczyk > +fanzhang > > Amrith's stewardship of Trove and active contributions over the last > several cycles would be missed dearly. >

[openstack-dev] [trove] Changes to the Trove core team

2018-01-09 Thread Manoj Kumar
I would like to announce the following changes to the Trove core reviewers: -amrith +maciej.jozefczyk +fanzhang Amrith's stewardship of Trove and active contributions over the last several cycles would be missed dearly. Would like to welcome Fan and Maciej. - Manoj

[openstack-dev] [trove]I want to use ceph rgw to replace swift

2017-12-28 Thread 王俊
Hi,all: I want to use ceph rgw to replace swift,who has a plan to do this? 保密:本函仅供收件人使用,如阁下并非抬头标明的收件人,请您即刻删除本函,勿以任何方式使用及传播,并请您能将此误发情形通知发件人,谢谢! __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)

[openstack-dev] [trove]configuration will be removed after resize mysql replica with a new flavor

2017-12-27 Thread 王俊
Hi,all When I resize mysql replica,trove will create a new configuration with new flavor,but It losts a step to attach replica template configuration whitch is excuted while replica instance is created.how to fixed?attach replica configuration again or remove the codes just like this

[openstack-dev] [trove] Changes to the Trove core team

2017-11-28 Thread Manoj Kumar
I would like to announce the following changes to the Trove core reviewers: +jian.song -mariamj Mariam has moved on to other projects and unfortunately has not been able to contribute recently. Jian Song has been an active contributor/reviewer for the last few cycles. - Manoj

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] retiring trove-integration?

2017-10-25 Thread Amrith Kumar
Agreed, please also see[1]. -amrith [1] https://review.openstack.org/515084 On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 3:28 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > Trove team, > > with the retirement of stable/newton, you can now retire > trove-integration AFAIU. > > For information on what to do, see: >

[openstack-dev] [trove] retiring trove-integration?

2017-10-25 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Trove team, with the retirement of stable/newton, you can now retire trove-integration AFAIU. For information on what to do, see: https://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/drivers.html#retiring-a-project I just pushed out two changes for stable/newton retirement that also take care of step 1 of

[openstack-dev] [trove] Please welcome Samuel Matzek, Luke Browning and Manoj Kumar to the Trove core team

2017-09-13 Thread Amrith Kumar
​Pl​ ease join me in welcoming Samuel Matzek, Luke Browning and Manoj Kumar to the Trove core team. -amrith __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe:

[openstack-dev] [trove]what's the solution about guest agent upgrade?

2017-09-12 Thread 王俊
Hi: I am working in Openstack’s upgrade,but I have no idea about trove-GA upgrade.I find a bp,whitch try to solve this problem,the link is: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Trove-Guest-Agent-Upgrades https://blueprints.launchpad.net/trove/+spec/upgrade-guestagent but it seems to

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove]how to save time of creating instance?

2017-09-10 Thread Amrith Kumar
The amount of time taken to create a trove instance (or cluster) is largely related to how long it takes to create a nova instance of the same size. So, how long does it take to create a nova instance of the same size on your system? Does your trove image install the database statically into the

[openstack-dev] [trove]how to save time of creating instance?

2017-09-06 Thread 王俊
Hi: it will take 8 minutes to create a mysql instance, and will take 16 minutes to create mysql cluster, which have one master and one slave 保密:本函仅供收件人使用,如阁下并非抬头标明的收件人,请您即刻删除本函,勿以任何方式使用及传播,并请您能将此误发情形通知发件人,谢谢! __ OpenStack

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][tc][all] Trove restart - next steps

2017-09-03 Thread Amrith Kumar
ern.ch] Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 1:45 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][tc][all] Trove restart - next steps Thanks for the info. Can you give a summary for rea

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][tc][all] Trove restart - next steps

2017-08-16 Thread Tim Bell
5 August 2017 at 23:09 To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][tc][all] Trove restart - next steps Tim, This is an idea that was discussed at a trove midcycle a long time back (Jun

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][tc][all] Trove restart - next steps

2017-08-15 Thread Amrith Kumar
r usage > questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > *Date: *Tuesday, 15 August 2017 at 17:44 > *To: *"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" < > openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > *Subject: *[openstack-dev] [trove][tc][all] T

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][tc][all] Trove restart - next steps

2017-08-15 Thread Tim Bell
t;OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Date: Tuesday, 15 August 2017 at 17:44 To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject: [openstack-dev] [trove][tc

[openstack-dev] [trove][tc][all] Trove restart - next steps

2017-08-15 Thread Amrith Kumar
Now that we have successfully navigated the Pike release and branched the tree, I would like to restart the conversation about how to revive and restart the Trove project. Feedback from the last go around on this subject[1] resulted in a lively discussion which I summarized in [2]. The very quick

[openstack-dev] [trove] trove-dashboard 9.0.0.0rc1 (pike)

2017-08-11 Thread no-reply
Hello everyone, A new release candidate for trove-dashboard for the end of the Pike cycle is available! You can find the source code tarball at: https://tarballs.openstack.org/trove-dashboard/ Unless release-critical issues are found that warrant a release candidate respin, this candidate

[openstack-dev] [trove] trove 8.0.0.0rc1 (pike)

2017-08-11 Thread no-reply
Hello everyone, A new release candidate for trove for the end of the Pike cycle is available! You can find the source code tarball at: https://tarballs.openstack.org/trove/ Unless release-critical issues are found that warrant a release candidate respin, this candidate will be formally

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Can we move some non-voting broken jobs to the experimental queue?

2017-08-02 Thread Amrith Kumar
Matt, we're trying our best to and the reason they were (recently) moved back to NON-experimental is that in moving them to experimental, no one monitored them. Yes, I am trying to get them to voting and like everything else in Trove, we could use some help. Yes, I realize that there are no

[openstack-dev] [trove] Can we move some non-voting broken jobs to the experimental queue?

2017-08-02 Thread Matt Riedemann
I don't dabble in Trove-land often but today I pushed a change and was watching it in zuul, and noticed that the change runs 26 jobs in the check queue. Several of those (cassandra, couch, mongo, percona) all failed nearly immediately with something in the diskimage builder, like this:

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-07-18 Thread Amrith Kumar
Doug, I agree, VM/baremetal, shared VM, object for backup storage or block device for backup storage, those are implementation choices. We should not have quota/billing depend on those; Trove should expose counters and space-time-products of the things that Trove users should be billed for. At

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-07-14 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove Kevin, In interests of 'keeping it simple', I'm going to try and prioritize the use-cases and pick implementation strategies which target the higher priority ones without

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-07-13 Thread Amrith Kumar
re quota then the hosts can actually > handle. > > Thanks, > Kevin > > From: Doug Hellmann [d...@doughellmann.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 6:57 AM > To: openstack-dev > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A pr

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-07-12 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove Excerpts from Amrith Kumar's message of 2017-07-12 06:14:28 -0500: > All: > > First, let me thank all of you who responded and provided feedback > on what I wrote. I've summarized what I heard below an

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-07-12 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Amrith Kumar's message of 2017-07-12 06:14:28 -0500: > All: > > First, let me thank all of you who responded and provided feedback > on what I wrote. I've summarized what I heard below and am posting > it as one consolidated response rather than responding to each > of your messages

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-07-12 Thread Amrith Kumar
All: First, let me thank all of you who responded and provided feedback on what I wrote. I've summarized what I heard below and am posting it as one consolidated response rather than responding to each of your messages and making this thread even deeper. As I say at the end of this email, I will

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-29 Thread Amrith Kumar
we believe > that it will cause people to walk away from the community and likely > OpenStack as well. > > - Manoj > > > > From:Amrith Kumar <amrith.ku...@gmail.com> > To:"OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" > <open

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-29 Thread Manoj Kumar
.ku...@gmail.com> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Date: 06/18/2017 06:41 AM Subject: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove Trove has evolved rapidly over the pas

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-23 Thread Amrith Kumar
isagree with the goal of being able to rely on Kubernetes for >> many things. But relying on Kubernetes doesn't solve the "I want some >> easy-to-install infrastructure" problem. Nor does it solve the types of >> advanced networking scenarios that the NFV communit

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-23 Thread Amrith Kumar
ersation going. ​ > > Thanks, > Kevin > ________ > From: Jay Pipes [jaypi...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:05 AM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchite

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-23 Thread Mike Bayer
: Thursday, June 22, 2017 12:58 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove Fox, Kevin M wrote: [...] If you build a Tessmaster clone just to do mariadb, then you share nothing with the other communities and have to reinvent

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-23 Thread Zane Bitter
On 23/06/17 05:31, Thierry Carrez wrote: Zane Bitter wrote: But back in the day we had a process (incubation) for adding stuff to OpenStack that it made sense to depend on being there. It was a highly imperfect process. We got rid of that process with the big tent reform, but didn't really

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-23 Thread Thierry Carrez
Zane Bitter wrote: > But back in the day we had a process (incubation) for adding stuff to > OpenStack that it made sense to depend on being there. It was a highly > imperfect process. We got rid of that process with the big tent reform, > but didn't really replace it with anything at all. Tags

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-22 Thread Zane Bitter
OpenStack ecosystem. Fewer deps. Do one thing well. Solid APIs." I don't think that the above leads to "further fracturing OpenStack". I think it leads to solid, reusable components. Best, -jay Thanks, Kevin ____ From: Thierry Carrez [thie

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-22 Thread Fox, Kevin M
From: Jay Pipes [jaypi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 10:05 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove On 06/22/2017 11:59 AM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > My $0.02. > >

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-22 Thread Hongbin Lu
> -Original Message- > From: Zane Bitter [mailto:zbit...@redhat.com] > Sent: June-20-17 4:57 PM > To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect > Trove > > On 20/06/17 11:45, Jay Pipes wrote: &

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-22 Thread Clint Byrum
tl;dr - I think Trove's successor has a future, but there are two conflicting ideas presented and Trove should pick one or the other. Excerpts from Amrith Kumar's message of 2017-06-18 07:35:49 -0400: > > We have learned a lot from v1, and the hope is that we can address that in > v2. Some of

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-22 Thread Jay Pipes
Stack". I think it leads to solid, reusable components. Best, -jay Thanks, Kevin From: Thierry Carrez [thie...@openstack.org] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 12:58 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearch

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-22 Thread Andrey Kurilin
; project collaboration for features. I fear the new push for letting > projects run standalone will make this worse, not better, further > fracturing OpenStack. > > Thanks, > Kevin > > From: Thierry Carrez [thie...@openstack.org] > Sent: Th

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-22 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Carrez [thie...@openstack.org] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 12:58 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove Fox, Kevin M wrote: > [...] > If you build a Tessmaster clone just to do mariadb, then you share n

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-22 Thread Thierry Carrez
Fox, Kevin M wrote: > [...] > If you build a Tessmaster clone just to do mariadb, then you share nothing > with the other communities and have to reinvent the wheel, yet again. > Operators load increases because the tool doesn't function like other tools. > > If you rely on a container

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-21 Thread Amrith Kumar
over k8s Third Party Resources (TPR) and would make Trove entirely > stateless. k8s maintains all state for everything in etcd. > > Please consider this architecture. > > Thanks, > Kevin > > ---------- > *From:* Amrith Kumar [amrith.ku...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:35

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-21 Thread Fox, Kevin M
could use it to deploy the rest of OpenStack. Even more sharing. Thanks, Kevin From: Thierry Carrez [thie...@openstack.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 1:52 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-21 Thread Zane Bitter
On 21/06/17 01:49, Mark Kirkwood wrote: On 21/06/17 02:08, Jay Pipes wrote: On 06/20/2017 09:42 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Does "service VM" need to be a first-class thing? Akanda creates them, using a service user. The VMs are tied to a "router" which is the billable resource that the user

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-21 Thread Davanum Srinivas
On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 1:52 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Zane Bitter wrote: >> [...] >> Until then it seems to me that the tradeoff is between decoupling it >> from the particular cloud it's running on so that users can optionally >> deploy it standalone (essentially Vish's

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-21 Thread Thierry Carrez
Zane Bitter wrote: > [...] > Until then it seems to me that the tradeoff is between decoupling it > from the particular cloud it's running on so that users can optionally > deploy it standalone (essentially Vish's proposed solution for the *aaS > services from many moons ago) vs. decoupling it

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-20 Thread Mark Kirkwood
On 21/06/17 02:08, Jay Pipes wrote: On 06/20/2017 09:42 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Does "service VM" need to be a first-class thing? Akanda creates them, using a service user. The VMs are tied to a "router" which is the billable resource that the user understands and interacts with through the

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-20 Thread Zane Bitter
On 20/06/17 11:45, Jay Pipes wrote: Good discussion, Zane. Comments inline. ++ On 06/20/2017 11:01 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 20/06/17 10:08, Jay Pipes wrote: On 06/20/2017 09:42 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Does "service VM" need to be a first-class thing? Akanda creates them, using a

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-20 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Jay Pipes's message of 2017-06-20 10:08:54 -0400: > On 06/20/2017 09:42 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: > > Does "service VM" need to be a first-class thing? Akanda creates > > them, using a service user. The VMs are tied to a "router" which > > is the billable resource that the user

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-20 Thread Mike Bayer
On 06/20/2017 11:45 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: Good discussion, Zane. Comments inline. On 06/20/2017 11:01 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: 2) The database VMs are created in a project belonging to the operator of the service. They're connected to the user's network through , and isolated from other

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-20 Thread Jay Pipes
Good discussion, Zane. Comments inline. On 06/20/2017 11:01 AM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 20/06/17 10:08, Jay Pipes wrote: On 06/20/2017 09:42 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Does "service VM" need to be a first-class thing? Akanda creates them, using a service user. The VMs are tied to a "router"

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-20 Thread Zane Bitter
On 20/06/17 10:08, Jay Pipes wrote: On 06/20/2017 09:42 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Does "service VM" need to be a first-class thing? Akanda creates them, using a service user. The VMs are tied to a "router" which is the billable resource that the user understands and interacts with through the

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-20 Thread Zane Bitter
On 18/06/17 07:35, Amrith Kumar wrote: Trove has evolved rapidly over the past several years, since integration in IceHouse when it only supported single instances of a few databases. Today it supports a dozen databases including clusters and replication. The user survey [1] indicates that

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-20 Thread Jay Pipes
On 06/20/2017 09:42 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Does "service VM" need to be a first-class thing? Akanda creates them, using a service user. The VMs are tied to a "router" which is the billable resource that the user understands and interacts with through the API. Frankly, I believe all of these

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-20 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Curtis's message of 2017-06-19 18:56:25 -0600: > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote: > > Trove has evolved rapidly over the past several years, since integration in > > IceHouse when it only supported single instances of a few databases.

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-20 Thread Zane Bitter
On 19/06/17 20:56, Curtis wrote: I really think the concept of "service VMs" should be a thing. I'm not sure where the OpenStack community has landed on that, my fault for not paying close attention, but we should be able to create VMs for a tenant that are not managed by the tenant but that

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-19 Thread Fei Long Wang
On 20/06/17 12:56, Curtis wrote: > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote: >> Trove has evolved rapidly over the past several years, since integration in >> IceHouse when it only supported single instances of a few databases. Today >> it supports a dozen

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-19 Thread Curtis
On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote: > Trove has evolved rapidly over the past several years, since integration in > IceHouse when it only supported single instances of a few databases. Today > it supports a dozen databases including clusters and

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-19 Thread Matt Fischer
Amrith, Some good thoughts in your email. I've replied to a few specific pieces below. Overall I think it's a good start to a plan. On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Amrith Kumar wrote: > Trove has evolved rapidly over the past several years, since integration > in

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-19 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Kevin From: Amrith Kumar [amrith.ku...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 4:35 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove Trove has evolved rapidly over the past several years,

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-19 Thread Thierry Carrez
Amrith Kumar wrote: > [...] > An important aspect of making this proposal work is that we seek to > eliminate the effort (planning, and coding) involved in migrating > existing Trove v1 deployments to the proposed Trove v2. Effectively, > with work beginning on Trove v2 as proposed here, Trove v1

[openstack-dev] [trove][all][tc] A proposal to rearchitect Trove

2017-06-18 Thread Amrith Kumar
Trove has evolved rapidly over the past several years, since integration in IceHouse when it only supported single instances of a few databases. Today it supports a dozen databases including clusters and replication. The user survey [1] indicates that while there is strong interest in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting

2017-06-08 Thread MCCASLAND, TREVOR
Ok everyone here is the link to join. Please only join if you plan to participate as there are a limit on these calls https://hangouts.google.com/call/ncgjbzal5p7ttelna3ovzqu __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting

2017-06-07 Thread MCCASLAND, TREVOR
8:50 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject: RE: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting The time has come! I have opened the hangout, You can join now! Please only join if you plan on participating in the disc

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting

2017-05-25 Thread MCCASLAND, TREVOR
/dhxlygwb4vbvffgfjjaerg3geiu -Original Message- From: MCCASLAND, TREVOR Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 12:31 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting *** Security Ad

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove meeting time update

2017-05-24 Thread MCCASLAND, TREVOR
Mailing List (not for usage questions)' <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove meeting time update Thanks for doing this Trevor, I am hoping that this patch merges soon so we can do the new meeting time on Wednesday. -- Amrith Kumar amrith.ku...@gma

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting

2017-05-22 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2017-05-22 17:42:09 + (+), MCCASLAND, TREVOR wrote: > Thanks Jeremy, that will work for our updated weekly meeting. > > To clear any confusion, this is a one-time project-scope meeting > focused on hearing the needs of the new contributors we have as > well as trove's current goals.

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting

2017-05-22 Thread MCCASLAND, TREVOR
Message- From: Jeremy Stanley [mailto:fu...@yuggoth.org] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 12:30 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) <openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting On 2017-05-22 16:50:10 +

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting

2017-05-22 Thread MCCASLAND, TREVOR
dev@lists.openstack.org> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting Trevor, 1500 UTC is 1600 BST and 1700 CEST which is quite late for the French. Our friends in Berlin may be up for it. I recommend 1500 BST which is 1400 UTC. Of course, your suggestion works well for the US west

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting

2017-05-22 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2017-05-22 16:50:10 + (+), MCCASLAND, TREVOR wrote: [...] > Sharing google calendar events can be a pain but it only gives us > a notification for our calendars so.. I'm not going to bother with > it that much. If you really want it on your calendar you can email > me and I will add you

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting

2017-05-22 Thread Justin Cook
> > -Original Message- > From: MCCASLAND, TREVOR > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2017 2:35 PM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) < > openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > Subject: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting > > *

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting

2017-05-22 Thread MCCASLAND, TREVOR
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[openstack-dev] [trove][all] Weekly meeting time change - 1500UTC #openstack-meeting-alt

2017-05-21 Thread Amrith Kumar
The Trove weekly meeting time has been changed from 1800UTC on Wednesdays to 1500UTC on Wednesdays[1]. Thanks to Trevor for following up on this action item from the discussions we had in the summit in Boston. This change has been made to accommodate some new participants to the community from

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove meeting time update

2017-05-19 Thread Amrith Kumar
o: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) d...@lists.openstack.org> > Subject: [openstack-dev] [trove] Trove meeting time update > > I have submitted a patch for updating the regular trove meeting time to 1500 > UTC. This was decided during the trove project

[openstack-dev] [trove] Trove reboot meeting

2017-05-19 Thread MCCASLAND, TREVOR
As a result of a large number of new contributors looking for direction from our project, we would like to host a focused meeting on the project's scope. Please let us know your availability for this one time meeting by using this doodle poll[1] We have brainstormed a few ideas for discussion

[openstack-dev] [trove] Trove meeting time update

2017-05-19 Thread MCCASLAND, TREVOR
I have submitted a patch for updating the regular trove meeting time to 1500 UTC. This was decided during the trove project update meeting last week[1] If you weren't able to make it and want to voice your opinion or If you feel like a better time is more suitable, feel free to make a

[openstack-dev] [trove] weekly meeting canceled today

2017-04-12 Thread Amrith Kumar
I've not seen anything new on the agenda and I have a late scheduling conflict today. Let's catch up on IRC if there is anything that needs discussing. -- Amrith Kumar amrith.ku...@gmail.com __ OpenStack Development

[openstack-dev] [trove] today weekly meeting canceled

2017-04-05 Thread Amrith Kumar
There's nothing to discuss on the agenda today so I'm canceling the meeting for today. -amrith -- Amrith Kumar amrith.ku...@gmail.com __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe:

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