Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Some initial code copying for db/migration

2013-11-18 Thread Christopher Armstrong
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: Sorry for the delay in responding to this... * Moved the _obj_classes registry magic out of ObjectMetaClass and into its own method for easier use. Since this is a subclass based implementation, having a

[openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-18 Thread Sam Alba
Hello everyone, As some of you already know - in Hong-Kong during the last OpenStack Summit - we ran a design session in the Nova topic titled Docker support in OpenStack. The session concluded in developing a new OpenStack service for supporting containers instead of modifying Nova to support

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/18/2013 02:35 PM, Mike Spreitzer wrote: There were some concerns expressed at the summit about scheduler scalability in Nova, and a little recollection of Boris' proposal to keep the needed state in memory. While

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-18 Thread Edgar Magana
Hi All, Thank you everybody for your input. It is clear that any solution requires changes at the plugin level (we were trying to avoid that). So, I am wondering if a re-factor of this code is needed of not (maybe not). The ML2 solution is probably the best alternative right now, so we may go for

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] comment on IceHouse firmware update etherpad

2013-11-18 Thread Hsu, Wan-Yen
Hi, I read the etherpad for firmware update.I have a comment: * if the node already has an instance on it, do we want to be able to update the firmware o tenant shouldn't care/know about firmware updates o need to migrate off first, so no o i.e. we can't disrupt the

[openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin

2013-11-18 Thread Kanthi P
Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet device and the ovs bridge, which is given as a work around since ovs bridge is

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-18 Thread Stuart Fox
Hey all Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate service? It sounds like it should fit within the Nova area. It is, after all, just another hypervisor type, or so it seems. (I can’t find the

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-18 Thread Joshua Harlow
Same question here. I also wonder why a new service. Yes the capabilities might be different (but then can't this be fixed this is nova by making nova support different capabilities in different hypervisors better). The api's also might be different (but then can't this be fixed by making the api

Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin

2013-11-18 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge which is connected between the vnet

Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin

2013-11-18 Thread Amir Sadoughi
Hi Kanthi, I’ve already started the implementation (prototype phase) of such a blueprint, ovs-firewall-driver https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ovs-firewall-driver. Amir On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.commailto:pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi

Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin

2013-11-18 Thread Yongsheng Gong
Is the open flow rule stateful? On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:26 AM, Kanthi P pavuluri.kan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, We are planning to implement quantum security groups using openflows for ovs plugin instead of iptables which is the case now. Doing so we can avoid the extra linux bridge

Re: [openstack-dev] [Cinder][Glance] OSLO update

2013-11-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 17:24 +, Duncan Thomas wrote: Random OSLO updates with no list of what changed, what got fixed etc are unlikely to get review attention - doing such a review is extremely difficult. I was -2ing them and asking for more info, but they keep popping up. I'm really not

[openstack-dev] [Fuel-Dev] VMware hypervisor BP and Modularization BP

2013-11-18 Thread Andrew Woodward
I've created blueprints for Fuel VMware hypervisor integration [1] and Fuel modularization [2] and would appreciate any feedback. Supporting a new hypervisor in Fuel creates some points on the current methodology that need to be refactored in order to be able to provide for multiple providers,

[openstack-dev] [qa] Plan for failing successful tempest jobs when new ERRORs appear in logs

2013-11-18 Thread David Kranz
So we are close to being able to start doing this. The current whitelist is here https://github.com/openstack/tempest/blob/master/etc/whitelist.yaml. I have a find-errors script that watches for successful builds and pulls out the non-whitelisted errors. For the past few weeks I have been

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-18 Thread yunhong jiang
On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:09 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: Phil Day discussed this at the summit and I have finally gotten around to posting a POC of this. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57053/ Hi, Joe, why you think the DB is not exact state in your followed commit message? I think the DB is

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation request for Manila

2013-11-18 Thread Mark McLoughlin
Hi, On Thu, 2013-10-10 at 15:00 +, Swartzlander, Ben wrote: Please consider our formal request for incubation status of the Manila project: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Manila_Overview Note that the Manila application was discussed at last week's TC meeting. I tried to take some

Re: [openstack-dev] Congress: an open policy framework

2013-11-18 Thread Tim Hinrichs
Inline. - Original Message - | From: Adam Young ayo...@redhat.com | To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org | Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 2:46:02 PM | Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Congress: an open policy framework | | On 11/14/2013 11:39 AM, Tim Hinrichs wrote: | I completely agree

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-18 Thread Monty Taylor
On 11/18/2013 02:28 PM, Stuart Fox wrote: Hey all Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate service? It sounds like it should fit within the Nova area. It is, after all, just another hypervisor

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-18 Thread Dan Smith
Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate service? It sounds like it should fit within the Nova area. It is, after all, just another hypervisor type, or so it seems. But it's not just another

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM, yunhong jiang yunhong.ji...@linux.intel.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:09 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: Phil Day discussed this at the summit and I have finally gotten around to posting a POC of this. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/57053/ Hi, Joe,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] rough draft of Heat autoscaling API

2013-11-18 Thread Angus Salkeld
On 18/11/13 12:57 +0100, Zane Bitter wrote: On 16/11/13 11:15, Angus Salkeld wrote: On 15/11/13 08:46 -0600, Christopher Armstrong wrote: On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:57 AM, Zane Bitter zbit...@redhat.com wrote: On 15/11/13 02:48, Christopher Armstrong wrote: On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 5:40 PM,

Re: [openstack-dev] Reg : Security groups implementation using openflows in quantum ovs plugin

2013-11-18 Thread Mike Wilson
Hi Kanthi, Just to reiterate what Kyle said, we do have an internal implementation using flows that looks very similar to security groups. Jun Park was the guy that wrote this and is looking to get it upstreamed. I think he'll be back in the office late next week. I'll point him to this thread

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Sam Alba's message of 2013-11-18 14:05:47 -0800: Hello everyone, As some of you already know - in Hong-Kong during the last OpenStack Summit - we ran a design session in the Nova topic titled Docker support in OpenStack. The session concluded in developing a new OpenStack

[openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-11-18 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
Hi, Based on our discussion in design summit , I have redone the service_id binding with roles BPhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/serviceid-binding-with-role-definition. I have added a new BP (link below) along with detailed use case to support this BP.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Loadbalancer instance design.

2013-11-18 Thread Mellquist, Peter
Hi Eugene! Option #2 sounds good. A few Qs: I assume we would not need to roll the API version? Have there been any detailed proposals on the 'loadbalancer' CRUD operations? In particular, the ability to attach multiple VIPs as was discussed in Hong Kong. In general, I think the loadbalancer

[openstack-dev] IP Spoofing Security Issue in Gateway VM

2013-11-18 Thread Aradhana Adhikari
Hi Neutron/VPNaaS Team, I am trying to configure VPN with latest Havana releaseand I have some concerns regarding gateway VM set-up. While configuring a VPN with strongSwan or OpenSwan, we have to disable the port security to enable port forwarding which makes the gateway VM vulnerable to IP

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Some initial code copying for db/migration

2013-11-18 Thread Jay Pipes
On 11/18/2013 04:58 PM, Christopher Armstrong wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com mailto:d...@danplanet.com wrote: Sorry for the delay in responding to this... * Moved the _obj_classes registry magic out of ObjectMetaClass and into its

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-18 Thread yunhong jiang
On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 15:32 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM, yunhong jiang yunhong.ji...@linux.intel.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:09 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: Phil Day discussed this at the summit and I have finally

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-18 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/18/2013 06:30 PM, Dan Smith wrote: Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate service? It sounds like it should fit within the Nova area. It is, after all, just another hypervisor type, or so it

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-18 Thread Joshua Harlow
An idea related to this, what would need to be done to make the DB have the exact state that a compute node is going through (and therefore the scheduler would not make unreliable/racey decisions, even when there are multiple schedulers). It's not like we are dealing with a system which can not

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 5:18 PM, yunhong jiang yunhong.ji...@linux.intel.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 15:32 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM, yunhong jiang yunhong.ji...@linux.intel.com wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-18 at 14:09 -0800, Joe Gordon wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-18 Thread Krishna Raman
On Nov 18, 2013, at 4:30 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/18/2013 06:30 PM, Dan Smith wrote: Not having been at the summit (maybe the next one), could somebody give a really short explanation as to why it needs to be a separate service? It sounds like it should fit within

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Some initial code copying for db/migration

2013-11-18 Thread Morgan Fainberg
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Christopher Armstrong chris.armstr...@rackspace.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Dan Smith d...@danplanet.com wrote: Sorry for the delay in responding to this... * Moved the _obj_classes registry magic out of ObjectMetaClass and into its

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Loadbalancer instance design.

2013-11-18 Thread Mellquist, Peter
Looks good Eugene! What about 'status' on the loadbalancer instance? This might be the aggregate of all the VIP statuses. (worst of VIP[0-N] ) Peter. From: Eugene Nikanorov [mailto:enikano...@mirantis.com] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 5:15 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List

Re: [openstack-dev] [style] () vs \ continuations

2013-11-18 Thread Vishvananda Ishaya
On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:00 AM, Monty Taylor mord...@inaugust.com wrote: On 11/13/2013 08:08 PM, Robert Collins wrote: On 14 November 2013 13:59, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: This is an area where we actually have consensus in our docs (have had for a while), the reviewer was being

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Race condition between DB layer and plugin back-end implementation

2013-11-18 Thread Robert Kukura
On 11/18/2013 05:21 PM, Edgar Magana wrote: Hi All, Thank you everybody for your input. It is clear that any solution requires changes at the plugin level (we were trying to avoid that). So, I am wondering if a re-factor of this code is needed of not (maybe not). The ML2 solution is

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Joshua Harlow harlo...@yahoo-inc.comwrote: An idea related to this, what would need to be done to make the DB have the exact state that a compute node is going through (and therefore the scheduler would not make unreliable/racey decisions, even when there are

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Mission Statement

2013-11-18 Thread Russell Bryant
Greetings, Every OpenStack program is supposed to have a mission statement. The Compute program does not have one yet [1]. Here is a first attempt at it. Let me know what you think. To implement services and associated libraries to provide massively scalable, on demand, self service

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] Service scoped role definition

2013-11-18 Thread Adam Young
On 11/18/2013 07:01 PM, Tiwari, Arvind wrote: Hi, Based on our discussion in design summit , I have redone the service_id binding with roles BP https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/+spec/serviceid-binding-with-role-definition. I have added a new BP (link below) along with detailed use

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic][Ceilometer] get IPMI data for ceilometer

2013-11-18 Thread Lu, Lianhao
Doug Hellmann wrote on 2013-11-19: On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Devananda van der Veen devananda@gmail.com wrote: Hi Lianhao Lu, I briefly summarized my recollection of that session in this blueprint:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Does Nova really need an SQL database?

2013-11-18 Thread Joshua Harlow
I agree that we should embrace eventual consistency (under certain cases), but it begs the question of what are u eventually consistent on (maybe u shouldn't be eventually consistent on resource knowledge). U don't have to be eventually consistent on all the things. So lets assume we are

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-18 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/18/2013 07:58 PM, Krishna Raman wrote: I have also set up a doodle poll at http://doodle.com/w7y5qcdvq9i36757 to gather a times when a majority of us are available to discuss on IRC. What time zone are these times in? -- Russell Bryant ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Mission Statement

2013-11-18 Thread Stuart Fox
Hey * Does ironic fall under the Compute banner? If so, the statement needs a little tweek. - BR, Stuart Fox Manager, Systems Engineering Demonware +7783753701 On 2013-11-18 5:55 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, Every OpenStack program is

[openstack-dev] [neutron] [ml2] ML2 meeting agenda this week

2013-11-18 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
Folks: The agenda for this week's ML2 meeting has been posted. I'd like to focus 30 minutes or so on ML2 testing, and the rest on the TypeDriver Summit Session. We need to add Tempest tests around the main Open Source components of ML2. What is lacking now is LinuxBridge and L2 Population Tempest

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Some initial code copying for db/migration

2013-11-18 Thread Dan Smith
I think the plus of avoiding decorating things isn't really a huge win, and actually i think takes clarity away. Hence the (meh) in my list :) This wasn't really a sticking point when we were getting reviews on the original base infrastructure, so I'm surprised people are so vehement now.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [ml2] ML2 meeting agenda this week

2013-11-18 Thread Kyle Mestery (kmestery)
One other note: The meeting is still at 1400UTC, which for people in most parts of the US means it's an hour earlier now. If this meeting time isn't good for folks, we can discuss moving this to a different time. Thanks, Kyle On Nov 18, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Kyle Mestery (kmestery)

Re: [openstack-dev] Introducing the new OpenStack service for Containers

2013-11-18 Thread Krishna Raman
On Nov 18, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/18/2013 07:58 PM, Krishna Raman wrote: I have also set up a doodle poll at http://doodle.com/w7y5qcdvq9i36757 to gather a times when a majority of us are available to discuss on IRC. What time zone are these

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Mission Statement

2013-11-18 Thread Krishna Raman
On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, Every OpenStack program is supposed to have a mission statement. The Compute program does not have one yet [1]. Here is a first attempt at it. Let me know what you think. To implement services and

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Mission Statement

2013-11-18 Thread Russell Bryant
On 11/19/2013 12:01 AM, Krishna Raman wrote: On Nov 18, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, Every OpenStack program is supposed to have a mission statement. The Compute program does not have one yet [1]. Here is a first attempt at it. Let me know what

[openstack-dev] [Cinder] TaskFlow 0.1 integration

2013-11-18 Thread Kekane, Abhishek
Hi All, Greetings!!! We are in process of implementing the TaskFlow 0.1 in Cinder for copy volume to image and delete volume. I have added two blueprints for the same. 1. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/copy-volume-to-image-task-flow 2.

Re: [openstack-dev] [State-Management] Proposal to add Anastasia Karpinska to taskflow-core

2013-11-18 Thread Ivan Melnikov
On 18.11.2013 22:05, Joshua Harlow wrote: Greetings all stackers, I propose that we add Anastasia Karpinska to the taskflow-core team [1]. [...] +1 -- WBR, Ivan A. Melnikov ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions

2013-11-18 Thread Thomas Spatzier
Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com wrote on 18.11.2013 21:52:04: From: Steve Baker sba...@redhat.com To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org, Date: 18.11.2013 21:54 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] HOT software configuration refined after design summit discussions On 11/19/2013 02:22 AM, Thomas

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