Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][vmware]VMware VCenter Driver

2013-12-18 Thread Gary Kotton
Hi, Currently there are 2 VMware drivers: * VMwareVCDriver – this lets nova compute communicate with a vCenter server (which manages the ESX hosts) * VMwareESXDriver – this lets nova compute manage the ESX host Thanks Gary From: Ray Sun xiaoq...@gmail.commailto:xiaoq...@gmail.com

Re: [openstack-dev] VMware VCenter Driver

2013-12-18 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
Ray, Actually, you can. There is an ESX driver in OpenStack as well as vCenter. However, it does not have benefits of vSphere/vCenter, like DRS. It would probably help if you described your use case and specify why you want to identify every ESXi host. -- Best regards, Oleg Gelbukh Mirantis

[openstack-dev] [devstack]

2013-12-18 Thread Ganpat Agarwal
Hi All, I have a openstack Havana setup running on Ubuntu 12.04 via Devstack. I want to test the icehouse-1 milestone release (cinder and nova) on the setup. I looked for the instructions in the docs but could not find. Could anyone help me with the instructions or steps i should follow to

[openstack-dev] [Heat] hybrid cloud bursting question

2013-12-18 Thread 이준원
Hi, stackers, I know only little about Heat, and I can't wholly follow recent discussions around multi-region support in this mailing list. Please help me understand the roadmap or plan about hybrid cloud and bursting in particular. I'd like to ask the following questions to the developers

Re: [openstack-dev] [governance] Becoming a Program, before applying for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 17/12/2013 14:59, Thierry Carrez a écrit : Mark McLoughlin wrote: On Tue, 2013-12-17 at 13:44 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Mark McLoughlin wrote: How about if we had an emerging projects page where the TC feedback on each project would be listed? That would give visibility to our

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Terminology

2013-12-18 Thread Ladislav Smola
On 12/17/2013 04:20 PM, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: On 2013/13/12 23:11, Jordan OMara wrote: On 13/12/13 16:20 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: However, on instance - 'instance' is a very well defined term in Nova and thus OpenStack: Nova boot gets you an instance, nova delete gets rid of an instance,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Support for Pecan in Nova

2013-12-18 Thread Christopher Yeoh
Hi Ryan, I've just replied with some comments on the changeset itself Regards, Chris On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Ryan Petrello ryan.petre...@dreamhost.comwrote: So any additional feedback on this patch? I’d love to start working on porting some of the other extensions to pecan, but

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-18 Thread Thierry Carrez
Bhandaru, Malini K wrote: Barbican, key manager is essential to openstack, paves the way to greater security. Instead of rejecting the project because of its current existence owed so heavily to Rackspace and to John Wood, why not we adopt it, code review, contribute code etc. We can have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] Neutron resources and hidden dependencies

2013-12-18 Thread Thomas Herve
At the design summit we had a discussion[1] about redesigning Neutron resources to avoid the need for hidden dependencies (that is to say, dependencies which cannot be inferred from the template). Since then we've got close to fixing one of those issues[2] (thanks Bartosz!), but the patch

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Icehouse Requirements

2013-12-18 Thread Will Foster
On 13/12/13 09:41 -0500, Jay Dobies wrote: * ability to 'preview' changes going to the scheduler What does this give you? How detailed a preview do you need? What information is critical there? Have you seen the proposed designs for a heat template preview feature - would that be sufficient?

Re: [openstack-dev] [governance] Becoming a Program, before applying for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Thierry Carrez
Sylvain Bauza wrote: Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but Stackforge is already the place for promising projects ? If so, why creating a wikipage for listing them ? Not really. Any project can be in stackforge. It doesn't have to be promising or to want to ever be part of the integrated openstack

Re: [openstack-dev] Healthnmon

2013-12-18 Thread Oleg Gelbukh
I would copy that question. Looks like integration plan didn't work out, and healthnmon development either stalled or gone shadow.. Anyone have information on that? -- Best regards, Oleg Gelbukh Mirnatis Inc. On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:29 PM, David S Taylor da...@bluesunrise.comwrote: Could

[openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, The TC meeting yesterday uncovered an interesting question which, so far, divided TC members. We require that projects have a number of different developers involved before they apply for incubation, mostly to raise the bus factor. But we also currently require some level of

Re: [openstack-dev] [governance] Becoming a Program, before applying for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 18/12/2013 11:25, Thierry Carrez a écrit : Sylvain Bauza wrote: Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but Stackforge is already the place for promising projects ? If so, why creating a wikipage for listing them ? Not really. Any project can be in stackforge. It doesn't have to be promising or to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Support for Pecan in Nova

2013-12-18 Thread Jamie Lennox
I attempted this in keystone as part of a very simple extension [1]. I understand that it is a much simpler case but nesting the Pecan within the existing routing infrastructure, rather than have a single Pecan app was fairly simple (though there are some limiting situations). Any reason you

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 18/12/2013 11:40, Thierry Carrez a écrit : I guess there are 3 options: 1. Require diversity for incubation, but find ways to bless or recommend projects pre-incubation so that this diversity can actually be achieved 2. Do not require diversity for incubation, but require it for graduation,

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:40:21AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, The TC meeting yesterday uncovered an interesting question which, so far, divided TC members. We require that projects have a number of different developers involved before they apply for incubation, mostly to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] Three SLAAC and DHCPv6 related blueprints

2013-12-18 Thread Ian Wells
Hey Shixiong, This is intended as a replacement for [1], correct? Do you have code for this already, or should we work with Sean's patch? There's a discussion document at [2], which is intended to be more specific behind the reasoning for the choices we make, and the interface offered to the

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Ian Wells
I think we're all happy that if a project *does* have a broad support base we're good; this is only the case for projects in one of two situations: - support is spread so thinly that each company involved in the area has elected to support a different solution - the project is just not that

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Horizon] [Tuskar] [UI] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge

2013-12-18 Thread Jaromir Coufal
Hi All, After yesterday's weekly meeting it seems that majority of us is leaning towards this approach (codebase merge). However there are few concerns regarding speed of development and resources especially for reviews. With this e-mail, I'd like to kick off discussion about how we might

Re: [openstack-dev] Healthnmon

2013-12-18 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 12/18/2013 06:28 AM, Oleg Gelbukh wrote: I would copy that question. Looks like integration plan didn't work out, and healthnmon development either stalled or gone shadow.. Anyone have information on that? I think that's the case. There was no mention of Healthnmon at the last summit.

Re: [openstack-dev] VMware VCenter Driver

2013-12-18 Thread Ray Sun
Oleg, Thanks for your response. The minimal requirement of our customer is to know the status of each ESXI server on the OpenStack, also they want to know where is the vm running now. In short, they want OpenStack as the single portal of their cloud and can manage all their resource, but they

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Horizon] [Tuskar] [UI] Horizon and Tuskar-UI codebase merge

2013-12-18 Thread Julie Pichon
Jaromir Coufal jcou...@redhat.com wrote: Hi All, After yesterday's weekly meeting it seems that majority of us is leaning towards this approach (codebase merge). However there are few concerns regarding speed of development and resources especially for reviews. With this e-mail, I'd like to

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO][Tuskar] Terminology

2013-12-18 Thread James Slagle
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:44:46AM +0100, Ladislav Smola wrote: On 12/17/2013 04:20 PM, Tzu-Mainn Chen wrote: On 2013/13/12 23:11, Jordan OMara wrote: On 13/12/13 16:20 +1300, Robert Collins wrote: However, on instance - 'instance' is a very well defined term in Nova and thus OpenStack: Nova

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Jarret Raim
-Original Message- From: Sylvain Bauza [mailto:sylvain.ba...@bull.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 5:04 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation Le 18/12/2013 11:40, Thierry

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] Three SLAAC and DHCPv6 related blueprints

2013-12-18 Thread Shixiong Shang
Hi, Ian: I won’t say the intent here is to replace dnsmasq-mode-keyword BP. Instead, I was trying to leverage and enhance those definitions so when dnsmasq is launched, it knows which mode it should run in. That being said, I see the value of your points and I also had lengthy discussion

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Unit Test - mixing DB UT with extension API

2013-12-18 Thread Avishay Balderman
Hi Looking at https://github.com/openstack/neutron/tree/master/neutron/tests/unit/db I see that the way we currently test the DB layer is via the REST API layer. Why do we mix those 2 layers in one UT? Those 2 layers are not related to each other and the DB UT should run directly against the

[openstack-dev] [trove]

2013-12-18 Thread Denis Makogon
Greetings, OpenStack DBaaS community. I'd like to start discussion around a new feature in Trove. The feature I would like to propose covers manipulating database log files. Main idea. Give user an ability to retrieve database log file for any purposes. Goals to achieve.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][IPv6] Three SLAAC and DHCPv6 related blueprints

2013-12-18 Thread Ian Wells
On 18 December 2013 14:10, Shixiong Shang sparkofwisdom.cl...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Ian: I won’t say the intent here is to replace dnsmasq-mode-keyword BP. Instead, I was trying to leverage and enhance those definitions so when dnsmasq is launched, it knows which mode it should run in. That

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Support for Pecan in Nova

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Xu
I replied some comments on the gerrit also. If we have patch for demonstrate pecan style extension, that will be great. Thanks Alex On 2013年12月18日 05:08, Ryan Petrello wrote: So any additional feedback on this patch? I’d love to start working on porting some of the other extensions to pecan,

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Alex Freedland
I would vote for the approach number 2. I think there are some distinct advantages for one company driving the development of a certain feature sets early in the life of the project, typically, the speed of development is faster, and it is easier to achieve focus early on. Allowing important

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Thierry Carrez
Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:40:21AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: I guess there are 3 options: 1. Require diversity for incubation, but find ways to bless or recommend projects pre-incubation so that this diversity can actually be achieved 2. Do not require diversity

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack]

2013-12-18 Thread Dean Troyer
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Ganpat Agarwal gans.develo...@gmail.comwrote: I want to test the icehouse-1 milestone release (cinder and nova) on the setup. I looked for the instructions in the docs but could not find. Since you don't say I will assume you have your current setup from a

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack]

2013-12-18 Thread Anne Gentle
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Dean Troyer dtro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:20 AM, Ganpat Agarwal gans.develo...@gmail.comwrote: I want to test the icehouse-1 milestone release (cinder and nova) on the setup. I looked for the instructions in the docs but could not find.

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Sylvain Bauza sylvain.ba...@bull.netwrote: Le 18/12/2013 11:40, Thierry Carrez a écrit : I guess there are 3 options: 1. Require diversity for incubation, but find ways to bless or recommend projects pre-incubation so that this diversity can actually be

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Daniel P. Berrange berra...@redhat.comwrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:40:21AM +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, The TC meeting yesterday uncovered an interesting question which, so far, divided TC members. We require that projects have a

[openstack-dev] [Nova] Future meeting times

2013-12-18 Thread Russell Bryant
Greetings, The weekly Nova meeting [1] has been held on Thursdays at 2100 UTC. I've been getting some requests to offer an alternative meeting time. I'd like to try out alternating the meeting time between two different times to allow more people in our global development team to attend meetings

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:06 AM, Jarret Raim jarret.r...@rackspace.comwrote: -Original Message- From: Sylvain Bauza [mailto:sylvain.ba...@bull.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 5:04 AM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Future meeting times

2013-12-18 Thread Bob Ball
+1 here too - I'd love to be able to attend alternate weeks. Bob -Original Message- From: Gary Kotton [mailto:gkot...@vmware.com] Sent: 18 December 2013 14:36 To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Future meeting times

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Support for Pecan in Nova

2013-12-18 Thread Ryan Petrello
Sounds like what I’m hearing is “Let’s see something that uses this (that works)”? I’ll work on that :) --- Ryan Petrello Senior Developer, DreamHost ryan.petre...@dreamhost.com On Dec 18, 2013, at 9:45 AM, Ryan Petrello ryan.petre...@dreamhost.com wrote: Jamie: Your approach makes sense,

Re: [openstack-dev] [devstack]

2013-12-18 Thread Dean Troyer
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Anne Gentle annegen...@justwriteclick.comwrote: Also, Dean correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe devstack does a precise milestone release. To guestimate it, you could figure out what This is correct, only stable/* releases. devstack looked like on

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Future meeting times

2013-12-18 Thread Andrew Laski
+1. The current meeting time works well for me but I would attend both. On 12/18/13 at 09:29am, Russell Bryant wrote: Greetings, The weekly Nova meeting [1] has been held on Thursdays at 2100 UTC. I've been getting some requests to offer an alternative meeting time. I'd like to try out

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Dake
On 12/13/2013 03:50 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Russell Bryant wrote: $ git shortlog -s -e | sort -n -r 172 John Wood john.w...@rackspace.com 150 jfwood john.w...@rackspace.com 65 Douglas Mendizabal douglas.mendiza...@rackspace.com 39 Jarret Raim jarret.r...@rackspace.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Support for Pecan in Nova

2013-12-18 Thread Ryan Petrello
Additionally, can anyone here summarize the current status of v3 documentation? Is there a process I can currently run against Nova to generate a WADL (I want to make sure the Pecan changes work with it)? --- Ryan Petrello Senior Developer, DreamHost ryan.petre...@dreamhost.com On Dec 18,

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Jarret Raim
It is a difficult thing to measure, and I don't think the intent is to set a hard % for contributions. I think the numbers for Barbican were just illustrating the fact that the concrete contributions are very coming very heavily from one source. That's only one data point, though, and as

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-18 Thread Jarret Raim
-Original Message- From: Steven Dake [mailto:sd...@redhat.com] In this particular case, I believe Barbican is not ready for incubation because of their dependence on celery, but ultimately I don't make the decision :) We've landed the PR that removes celery and replaces it with

[openstack-dev] olso.config error on running Devstack

2013-12-18 Thread Sayali Lunkad
Hello, I get the following error when I run stack.sh on Devstack Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/ceilometer-dbsync, line 6, in module from ceilometer.storage import dbsync File /opt/stack/ceilometer/ceilometer/storage/__init__.py, line 23, in module from

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Support for Pecan in Nova

2013-12-18 Thread Anne Gentle
I replied on the review itself but here's what I know. The v3 documentation is still underway, there's a long thread on the openstack-docs list from October that should help explain the question's base. Sounds like this patch does indeed affect the way docs are generated potentially.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Git workflow meeting reminder agenda

2013-12-18 Thread iKhan
I am newbie here and I am from +5:30 GMT. Can any one direct me how to attend this meeting? On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Krishna Raman kra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, The next Git-workflow meeting is tomorrow at 8 AM PST. (

Re: [openstack-dev] olso.config error on running Devstack

2013-12-18 Thread iKhan
If you are behind corporate proxy, make sure the proxy is set. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Sayali Lunkad sayali.92...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I get the following error when I run stack.sh on Devstack Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/local/bin/ceilometer-dbsync, line 6,

Re: [openstack-dev] olso.config error on running Devstack

2013-12-18 Thread Don Kehn
Unless you need ceilometer, you can try in your localrc of eliminating ceilometer from the ENABLED_SERVICES. I know thats not the ulimate fix, but it will get you up and running with devstack. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:26 AM, Sayali Lunkad sayali.92...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I get the

[openstack-dev] [trove] My thoughts on the Unified Guest Agent

2013-12-18 Thread Tim Simpson
I've been following the Unified Agent mailing list thread for awhile now and, as someone who has written a fair amount of code for both of the two existing Trove agents, thought I should give my opinion about it. I like the idea of a unified agent, but believe that forcing Trove to adopt this

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] weekly meeting

2013-12-18 Thread Duncan Thomas
04:00 or 05:00 UTC would basically preclude European participation for most people... that's 4 am for Dosaboy and myself for example. Alternating meetings on different weeks would probably work, though we would need to encourage people to get stuff on the agenda in advance rather than an hour

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Dake
On 12/18/2013 03:40 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, The TC meeting yesterday uncovered an interesting question which, so far, divided TC members. We require that projects have a number of different developers involved before they apply for incubation, mostly to raise the bus factor. But

[openstack-dev] [nova] How do we format/version/deprecate things from notifications?

2013-12-18 Thread Matt Riedemann
The question came up in this patch [1], how do we deprecate and remove keys in the notification payload? In this case I need to deprecate and replace the 'instance_type' key with 'flavor' per the associated blueprint. [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/62430/ -- Thanks, Matt Riedemann

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Git workflow meeting reminder agenda

2013-12-18 Thread Adrian Otto
Use IRC to connect to irc.freenode.nethttp://irc.freenode.net Join the #solum channel The meeting starts in roughly 15 minutes from now. On Dec 18, 2013, at 7:30 AM, iKhan ik.ibadk...@gmail.commailto:ik.ibadk...@gmail.com wrote: I am newbie here and I am from +5:30 GMT. Can any one direct me

Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Git workflow meeting reminder agenda

2013-12-18 Thread Krishna Raman
Hi Ibad, The Solum Git workflow meeting will be on #solum channel on IRC (freenode). —Kr On Dec 18, 2013, at 7:30 AM, iKhan ik.ibadk...@gmail.com wrote: I am newbie here and I am from +5:30 GMT. Can any one direct me how to attend this meeting? On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Krishna

Re: [openstack-dev] olso.config error on running Devstack

2013-12-18 Thread Sayali Lunkad
Hey, I do need ceilometer so making changes to localrc won't help me here. And no corporate proxy! What could possibly be the issue because my Devstack had been working fine till now. Thanks, Sayali On Dec 18, 2013 9:14 PM, iKhan ik.ibadk...@gmail.com wrote: If you are behind corporate proxy,

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] weekly meeting

2013-12-18 Thread John Griffith
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Duncan Thomas duncan.tho...@gmail.com wrote: 04:00 or 05:00 UTC would basically preclude European participation for most people... that's 4 am for Dosaboy and myself for example. Alternating meetings on different weeks would probably work, though we would need

Re: [openstack-dev] olso.config error on running Devstack

2013-12-18 Thread Sayali Lunkad
Also forgot to mention I can access the dashboard but I am unable to retrieve any information about the volumes. On Dec 18, 2013 8:56 PM, Sayali Lunkad sayali.92...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I get the following error when I run stack.sh on Devstack Traceback (most recent call last): File

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/18/2013 10:37 AM, Steven Dake wrote: On 12/18/2013 03:40 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, The TC meeting yesterday uncovered an interesting question which, so far, divided TC members. We require that projects have a number of different developers involved before they apply for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] Weekly meeting time

2013-12-18 Thread Lyle, David
Thanks Liz for setting up the poll. I'm not sure we're locked to Tuesday as the meeting day either. On Tuesdays, 20:00 UTC (TC meeting) and 21:00 UTC (Project) are meetings I don't want to schedule over. Those times are more attractive on other days. -David -Original Message-

Re: [openstack-dev] Incubation Request for Barbican

2013-12-18 Thread Sean Dague
On 12/18/2013 10:23 AM, Jarret Raim wrote: -Original Message- From: Steven Dake [mailto:sd...@redhat.com] In this particular case, I believe Barbican is not ready for incubation because of their dependence on celery, but ultimately I don't make the decision :) We've landed the PR

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] My thoughts on the Unified Guest Agent

2013-12-18 Thread Steven Dake
On 12/18/2013 08:34 AM, Tim Simpson wrote: I've been following the Unified Agent mailing list thread for awhile now and, as someone who has written a fair amount of code for both of the two existing Trove agents, thought I should give my opinion about it. I like the idea of a unified agent,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Future meeting times

2013-12-18 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 12/18/2013 03:29 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: Greetings, The weekly Nova meeting [1] has been held on Thursdays at 2100 UTC. I've been getting some requests to offer an alternative meeting time. I'd like to try out alternating the meeting time between two different times to allow more

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 18/12/13 11:40 +0100, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, The TC meeting yesterday uncovered an interesting question which, so far, divided TC members. We require that projects have a number of different developers involved before they apply for incubation, mostly to raise the bus factor.

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] How do we format/version/deprecate things from notifications?

2013-12-18 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 12/18/2013 9:42 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: The question came up in this patch [1], how do we deprecate and remove keys in the notification payload? In this case I need to deprecate and replace the 'instance_type' key with 'flavor' per the associated blueprint. [1]

[openstack-dev] API spec for OS-NS-ROLES extension

2013-12-18 Thread Tiwari, Arvind
Hi Adam, I would like to request you to revisit the below link and provide your opinion, so that we can move forward and try to find a common ground where everyone. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/61897 Below is my justification for service_id in role model: In a public cloud deployment

[openstack-dev] Adding DB migration items to the common review checklist

2013-12-18 Thread Matt Riedemann
I've seen this come up a few times in reviews and was thinking we should put something in the general review checklist wiki for it [1]. Basically I have three things I'd like to have in the list for DB migrations: 1. Unique constraints should be named. Different DB engines and SQLAlchemy

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-18 Thread Dmitry Mescheryakov
Clint, do you mean * use os-collect-config and its HTTP transport as a base for the PoC or * migrate os-collect-config on PoC after it is implemented on oslo.messaging I presume the later, but could you clarify? 2013/12/18 Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 12/18/2013 10:37 AM, Steven Dake wrote: On 12/18/2013 03:40 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, The TC meeting yesterday uncovered an interesting question which, so far, divided TC members. We require that

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Jarret Raim jarret.r...@rackspace.comwrote: It is a difficult thing to measure, and I don't think the intent is to set a hard % for contributions. I think the numbers for Barbican were just illustrating the fact that the concrete contributions are very

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] My thoughts on the Unified Guest Agent

2013-12-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tim Simpson's message of 2013-12-18 07:34:14 -0800: I've been following the Unified Agent mailing list thread for awhile now and, as someone who has written a fair amount of code for both of the two existing Trove agents, thought I should give my opinion about it. I like the idea

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] My thoughts on the Unified Guest Agent

2013-12-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Steven Dake's message of 2013-12-18 08:05:09 -0800: On 12/18/2013 08:34 AM, Tim Simpson wrote: I've been following the Unified Agent mailing list thread for awhile now and, as someone who has written a fair amount of code for both of the two existing Trove agents, thought I

Re: [openstack-dev] Unified Guest Agent proposal

2013-12-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Dmitry Mescheryakov's message of 2013-12-18 09:32:30 -0800: Clint, do you mean * use os-collect-config and its HTTP transport as a base for the PoC or * migrate os-collect-config on PoC after it is implemented on oslo.messaging I presume the later, but could you clarify?

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] How do we format/version/deprecate things from notifications?

2013-12-18 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 12/18/2013 06:17 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 12/18/2013 9:42 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: The question came up in this patch [1], how do we deprecate and remove keys in the notification payload? In this case I need to deprecate and replace the 'instance_type' key with 'flavor' per the

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Flavio Percoco
On 18/12/13 12:35 -0500, Doug Hellmann wrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Sean Dague s...@dague.net wrote: On 12/18/2013 10:37 AM, Steven Dake wrote: But I can tell you one thing for certain, an actual incubation commitment from the OpenStack Technical Committee has a huge

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] My thoughts on the Unified Guest Agent

2013-12-18 Thread Dmitry Mescheryakov
Tim, The unified agent we proposing is based on the following ideas: * the core agent has _no_ functionality at all. It is a pure RPC mechanism with the ability to add whichever API needed on top of it. * the API is organized into modules which could be reused across different projects. *

Re: [openstack-dev] [cinder] weekly meeting

2013-12-18 Thread Avishay Traeger
For me, 4/5 is currently 6/7AM. An hour later when daylight savings messes things up. Exactly wake up/get ready/kid to school/me to work time. I'd rather leave it as is (6/7PM depending on daylight savings). If you alternate, I may have to miss some. Thanks, Avishay From: John Griffith

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] My thoughts on the Unified Guest Agent

2013-12-18 Thread Dmitry Mescheryakov
2013/12/18 Steven Dake sd...@redhat.com On 12/18/2013 08:34 AM, Tim Simpson wrote: I've been following the Unified Agent mailing list thread for awhile now and, as someone who has written a fair amount of code for both of the two existing Trove agents, thought I should give my opinion about

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] hybrid cloud bursting question

2013-12-18 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from =?ks_c_5601-1987?B?wMzB2L/4?='s message of 2013-12-18 01:26:22 -0800: Hi, stackers, I know only little about Heat, and I can't wholly follow recent discussions around multi-region support in this mailing list. Please help me understand the roadmap or plan about hybrid cloud

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Ironic] Get power and temperature via IPMI

2013-12-18 Thread Alan Kavanagh
Hi Gao What is the reason why you see it would be important to have these two additional metrics power and temperature for Nova to base scheduling on? Alan From: Gao, Fengqian [mailto:fengqian@intel.com] Sent: December-18-13 1:00 AM To: openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org Subject:

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] My thoughts on the Unified Guest Agent

2013-12-18 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Someone's gotta make/maintain the trove/savanna images though. They usually are built from packages. If there is a unified agent, then it only has to be packaged once. If there is one per special type of agent, its one package per special type of agent. I don't think there is a free lunch here,

Re: [openstack-dev] Diversity as a requirement for incubation

2013-12-18 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On 12/18/2013 07:01 AM, Dolph Mathews wrote: Options 2 and 3 sound identical to me, when realistically applied. Option 3 just makes the common sense aspect mandatory. Indeed, Option 3 gets my vote. One aspect I'd like to mention regarding diversity of contributors in any open source project is

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] domain admin role query

2013-12-18 Thread Ravi Chunduru
Thanks all for the information. I have now v3 policies in place, the issue is that as a domain admin I could not create a project in the domain. I get 403 unauthorized status. I see that when as a 'domain admin' request a token, the response did not have any roles. In the token request, I

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] How do we format/version/deprecate things from notifications?

2013-12-18 Thread Russell Bryant
On 12/18/2013 12:44 PM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 12/18/2013 06:17 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 12/18/2013 9:42 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: The question came up in this patch [1], how do we deprecate and remove keys in the notification payload? In this case I need to deprecate and replace the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] [Ironic] Get power and temperature via IPMI

2013-12-18 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Gao, Fengqian fengqian@intel.comwrote: Hi, all, I am planning to extend bp https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/utilization-aware-schedulingwith power and temperature. In other words, power and temperature can be collected and used for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Heat] hybrid cloud bursting question

2013-12-18 Thread Zane Bitter
On 18/12/13 04:26, 이준원 wrote: Hi, stackers, I know only little about Heat, and I can't wholly follow recent discussions around multi-region support in this mailing list. Please help me understand the roadmap or plan about hybrid cloud and bursting in particular. I'd like to ask the following

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] How do we format/version/deprecate things from notifications?

2013-12-18 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 12/18/2013 01:44 PM, Nikola Đipanov wrote: On 12/18/2013 06:17 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 12/18/2013 9:42 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: The question came up in this patch [1], how do we deprecate and remove keys in the notification payload? In this case I need to deprecate and replace

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] How do we format/version/deprecate things from notifications?

2013-12-18 Thread Sandy Walsh
On 12/18/2013 03:00 PM, Russell Bryant wrote: We really need proper versioning for notifications. We've had a blueprint open for about a year, but AFAICT, nobody is actively working on it. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/versioned-notifications IBM is behind this effort

Re: [openstack-dev] Adding DB migration items to the common review checklist

2013-12-18 Thread Brant Knudson
Matt - Could a test be added that goes through the models and checks these things? Other projects could use this too. Here's an example of a test that checks if the tables are all InnoDB:

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] My thoughts on the Unified Guest Agent

2013-12-18 Thread Tim Simpson
Please provide proof of that assumption or at least a general hypothesis that we can test. I can't prove that the new agent will be larger as it doesn't exist yet. Since nothing was agreed upon anyway, I don't know how you came to that conclusion. I would suggest that any agent framework

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Future meeting times

2013-12-18 Thread Joe Gordon
On Dec 18, 2013 6:38 AM, Russell Bryant rbry...@redhat.com wrote: Greetings, The weekly Nova meeting [1] has been held on Thursdays at 2100 UTC. I've been getting some requests to offer an alternative meeting time. I'd like to try out alternating the meeting time between two different times

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] My thoughts on the Unified Guest Agent

2013-12-18 Thread Tim Simpson
Thanks for the summary Dmitry. I'm ok with these ideas, and while I still disagree with having a single, forced standard for RPC communication, I should probably let things pan out a bit before being too concerned. - Tim From: Dmitry Mescheryakov

Re: [openstack-dev] API spec for OS-NS-ROLES extension

2013-12-18 Thread Dolph Mathews
Services already own their own policy enforcement, and therefore own their own definitions of roles. A service deployment can already require roles that are prefixed by a specific string (compute-*), and can already map actual capabilities onto those roles ({compute-create: role:compute-manager}).

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova] Future meeting times

2013-12-18 Thread Dan Smith
I am fine with this, but I will never be attending the 1400 UTC meetings, as I live in utc-8 I too will miss the 1400UTC meetings during the majority of the year. During PDT I will be able to make them, but will be uncaffeinated. --Dan ___

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] domain admin role query

2013-12-18 Thread Dolph Mathews
On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Ravi Chunduru ravi...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks all for the information. I have now v3 policies in place, the issue is that as a domain admin I could not create a project in the domain. I get 403 unauthorized status. I see that when as a 'domain admin'

Re: [openstack-dev] Adding DB migration items to the common review checklist

2013-12-18 Thread Michael Still
I don't have a problem with any of these requirements, but I'd like to explore automating the checks. Would it be possible to write a unit test that verified this for all migrations? Then we don't need to add it to the checklist... Michael On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Matt Riedemann

Re: [openstack-dev] [trove] My thoughts on the Unified Guest Agent

2013-12-18 Thread Dmitry Mescheryakov
Tim, we definitely don't want to force projects to migrate to the unified agent. I've started making the PoC with the idea that Savanna needs the agent anyway, and we want it to be ready for Icehouse. On the other side, I believe, it will be much easier to drive the discussion further with the PoC

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] domain admin role query

2013-12-18 Thread Ravi Chunduru
Hi Dolph, I dont have project yet to use in the scope. The intention is to get a token using domain admin credentials and create project using it. Thanks, -Ravi. On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Dolph Mathews dolph.math...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Ravi Chunduru

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