Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Do No Evil

2015-03-07 Thread Ian Wells
With apologies for derailing the question, but would you care to tell us what evil you're planning on doing? I find it's always best to be informed about these things. -- Ian. (Why yes, it *is* a Saturday morning.) On 6 March 2015 at 12:23, Michael Krotscheck krotsch...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Do No Evil

2015-03-07 Thread Michael Krotscheck
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 8:15 AM Ian Wells ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk wrote: With apologies for derailing the question, but would you care to tell us what evil you're planning on doing? I find it's always best to be informed about these things. Me? What? Me? Evil? None, of course. Nope. Nothing

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Generic question about synchronizing neutron agent on compute node with DB

2015-03-07 Thread Leo Y
Hello, What happens when neutron DB is updated to change network settings (e.g. via Dashboard or manually) when there are communication sessions opened in compute nodes. Does it influence those sessions? When the update is propagated to compute nodes? Thank you

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron agent internal data structures

2015-03-07 Thread Leo Y
Hello, Where within the code of neutron agents I can find structure(s) that store network information? The agent has to know all current networks and ports in use by all VMs that are running in its compute node. Does anyone know where this information is stored except for neutron DB? Thank you

[openstack-dev] [neutron] How neutron calculate routing path

2015-03-07 Thread Leo Y
Hello, I am looking to learn how neutron agent (probably L3) calculates a new routing path when VM on compute node wants to communicate with some destination. Does it use neutron API to learn about network topology or it uses its internal structures to simulate path resolving like in real network?

Re: [openstack-dev] [keystone] [oslo] Further details for the Oslo Cache Updated to use dogpile.cache spec

2015-03-07 Thread Doug Hellmann
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015, at 06:35 PM, xiaoyuan wrote: Hi everyone, I am Xiaoyuan Lu, a recipient oftheHP Helion OpenStack scholarship, and ElizabethK. Josephis my mentor from HP. I would like to work on projects related to Keystone. Considering the amount of work and tiime limit, after

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Adding vendor drivers in Ironic

2015-03-07 Thread Devananda van der Veen
I know I'm arriving late to this thread, but I want to chime in with a resounding yes! to this approach. We've held to a fairly strict policy around maintaining compatibility within the driver API since early on, and we'll continue to do that as we add new interfaces (see the new

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] Adding vendor drivers in Ironic

2015-03-07 Thread Devananda van der Veen
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:45 AM, Clint Byrum cl...@fewbar.com wrote: Excerpts from Gary Kotton's message of 2015-03-01 02:32:37 -0800: Hi, I am just relaying pain-points that we encountered in neutron. As I have said below it makes the development process a lot quicker for people working on

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] bower

2015-03-07 Thread Richard Jones
On Sun, 8 Mar 2015 at 04:59 Michael Krotscheck krotsch...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone wanna hack on a bower mirror puppet module with me? BTW are you aware of this spec for bower/Horizon/infra? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154297/ Richard

Re: [openstack-dev] [Glance] Core nominations.

2015-03-07 Thread Nikhil Komawar
Thank you for the response, Hemanth! Those are some excellent questions. In order to avoid diverging the conversation, I would like to give my general sense of direction. Please do keep in mind that a lot of these thoughts need to be better formulated, preferably on a different thread.

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] Thinking about our python client UX

2015-03-07 Thread Devananda van der Veen
Hi folks, Recently, I've been thinking more of how users of our python client will interact with the service, and in particular, how they might expect different instances of Ironic to behave. We added several extensions to the API this cycle, and along with that, also landed microversion support

[openstack-dev] [nova][api] Microversions. And why do we need API extensions for new API functionality?

2015-03-07 Thread Jay Pipes
Hi Stackers, Now that microversions have been introduced to the Nova API (meaning we can now have novaclient request, say, version 2.3 of the Nova API using the special X-OpenStack-Nova-API-Version HTTP header), is there any good reason to require API extensions at all for *new*

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron agent internal data structures

2015-03-07 Thread Salvatore Orlando
Hi Leo, Every agent keeps anyway an in-memory state throughout its execution. The agents indeed have no persistent storage - at least not in the usual form of a database. They however rely on data other than the neutron database. For instance for the l2 agent, ovsdb itself is a source of

Re: [openstack-dev] [horizon] Do No Evil

2015-03-07 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Possibly a better venue would be the legal-discuss@ mailing list? -- dims On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Michael Krotscheck krotsch...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 8:15 AM Ian Wells ijw.ubu...@cack.org.uk wrote: With apologies for derailing the question, but would you care to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [swift] dependency on non-standardized, private APIs

2015-03-07 Thread Jay Pipes
Thanks very much, David, appreciated! -jay On 03/07/2015 02:25 PM, David Lyle wrote: I agree that Horizon should not be requiring optional headers. Changing status of bug. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Added [swift] to

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] [swift] dependency on non-standardized, private APIs

2015-03-07 Thread David Lyle
I agree that Horizon should not be requiring optional headers. Changing status of bug. On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 5:51 PM, Jay Pipes jaypi...@gmail.com wrote: Added [swift] to topic. On 03/03/2015 07:41 AM, Matthew Farina wrote: Radoslaw, Unfortunately the documentation for OpenStack has some

[openstack-dev] [Keystone]ON DELETE RESTRICT VS ON DELETE CASCADE

2015-03-07 Thread Chen, Wei D
Hi, I did some homework to follow up the inline comment about on delete cascade subclauses of the foreign key clause[1], when ' ON DELETE CASCADE ' is given, delete a recode from parent table will DELETE all the corresponding rows from the CHILD table automatically *without any warning*. 'ON

Re: [openstack-dev] [Keystone]ON DELETE RESTRICT VS ON DELETE CASCADE

2015-03-07 Thread Morgan Fainberg
In general I'd say that cascade is the right approach. There are some very limited cases where restrict should be used. Overall, I'd like to see less reliance on FK constraints anywhere. The reason for using Cascade is that we should be very specific in our code to prevent deletion independent of