Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Dmitry Tantsur
On 05/28/2015 06:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: Hi all, tl;dr; At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them. I had a brief follow-up conversation with Doug and Thierry, but I'd like this to be

Re: [openstack-dev] Nominating Serge van Ginderachter to the os-ansible-deployment core team

2015-05-29 Thread Jesse Pretorius
On 29 May 2015 at 00:01, Kevin Carter kevin.car...@rackspace.com wrote: I would like to nominate Serge (svg on IRC) for the os-ansible-deployment-core team. Serge has been involved with the greater Ansible community for some time and has been working with the OSAD project for the last couple

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] New micro-version needed for api bug fix or not?

2015-05-29 Thread Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 08:47:01AM +0200, Jens Rosenboom wrote: As the discussion in https://review.openstack.org/179569 still continues about whether this is just a bug fix, or an API change that will need a new micro version, maybe it makes sense to take this issue over here to the ML.

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Puppet] Package updates strategy

2015-05-29 Thread Jan Provazník
On 05/28/2015 08:24 PM, Zane Bitter wrote: On 28/05/15 03:35, Jan Provaznik wrote: On 05/28/2015 01:10 AM, Steve Baker wrote: On 28/05/15 10:54, Richard Raseley wrote: Zane Bitter wrote: Steve is working on a patch to allow package-based updates of overcloud nodes[1] using the distro's

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Lucas Alvares Gomes
Hi Note, that will need some scheduling anyway, so that we can slow down a week before. So probably still some milestone process required, wdyt? We can cut a release and establish it one or two weeks before the official OpenStack release. But prior to that we can just cut a release whenever

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] I think nova behaves poorly when booting multiple instances

2015-05-29 Thread Lingxian Kong
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 11:37 PM, Chris Friesen chris.frie...@windriver.com wrote: Also, I think that if nova can't schedule max count instances, but can schedule at least min count instances, then it shouldn't put the unscheduled ones into an error state--it should just delete them.

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Proposing Assaf Muller for the Neutron Core Reviewer Team

2015-05-29 Thread Daniel Comnea
My vote doesn't count but as an operator i'd give Assaf +100 for all the great knowledge he has and shared through his blog - incredible source of information for everyone who wants to understand in a dummy way how Neutron does things. Dani On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Akihiro Motoki

[openstack-dev] [nova][api] New micro-version needed for api bug fix or not?

2015-05-29 Thread Jens Rosenboom
As the discussion in https://review.openstack.org/179569 still continues about whether this is just a bug fix, or an API change that will need a new micro version, maybe it makes sense to take this issue over here to the ML. My personal opinion is undecided, I can see either option as being

Re: [openstack-dev] [new][app-catalog] App Catalog next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Alexander Tivelkov
Hi Kevin, Has the Glance Artifact Repository implemented enough bits to have Heat and/or Murano artefacts yet? ​Most of the code is there already, couple of patchsets are still on review but we'll land them soon.​ L1 is a likely milestone to have it ready in master. Also, has there been any

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] New micro-version needed for api bug fix or not?

2015-05-29 Thread John Garbutt
On 29 May 2015 at 09:00, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui sahid.ferdja...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 08:47:01AM +0200, Jens Rosenboom wrote: As the discussion in https://review.openstack.org/179569 still continues about whether this is just a bug fix, or an API change that will need a

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-05-29 11:47:36 +0200 (+0200), Thierry Carrez wrote: [...] As far as vulnerability management goes, we already publish the master fix as part of the advisory, so people can easily find that. The only thing the VMT might want to reconsider is: when an issue is /only/ present in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] I think nova behaves poorly when booting multiple instances

2015-05-29 Thread John Garbutt
On 27 May 2015 at 23:36, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 26 May 2015 at 03:37, Chris Friesen chris.frie...@windriver.com wrote: Hi all, I've just opened a bug around booting multiple instances at once, and it was suggested on IRC that I mention it here to broaden the

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon][sahara]

2015-05-29 Thread Rob Cresswell (rcresswe)
This was a known bug with the modals, which was fixed yesterday. Update horizon master, and you’re good to go :) Bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1459115 Patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185927/ Rob From: lu jander juvenboy1...@gmail.commailto:juvenboy1...@gmail.com

Re: [openstack-dev] [packaging] Adding packaging as an OpenStack project

2015-05-29 Thread Derek Higgins
On 28/05/15 22:09, Thomas Goirand wrote: On 05/28/2015 02:53 PM, Derek Higgins wrote: On 28/05/15 12:07, Jaume Devesa wrote: Hi Thomas, Delorean is a tool to build rpm packages from master branches (maybe any branch?) of OpenStack projects. Check out here:

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Thierry Carrez
Devananda van der Veen wrote: [...] The alternative we discussed: - use feature branches for risky / large work, keeping total # of branches small, and rebasing them regularly on master - keep trunk moving quickly for smaller / less risky / refactoring changes - slow down for a week or two

Re: [openstack-dev] [packaging] Adding packaging as an OpenStack project

2015-05-29 Thread Derek Higgins
On 28/05/15 20:58, Paul Belanger wrote: On 05/27/2015 05:26 PM, Derek Higgins wrote: On 27/05/15 09:14, Thomas Goirand wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi all, tl;dr: - - We'd like to push distribution packaging of OpenStack on upstream gerrit with reviews. - - The

Re: [openstack-dev] [packaging] Adding packaging as an OpenStack project

2015-05-29 Thread Derek Higgins
On 29/05/15 02:54, Steve Kowalik wrote: On 29/05/15 06:41, Haïkel wrote: Here's the main script to rebuild a RPM package. https://github.com/openstack-packages/delorean/blob/master/scripts/build_rpm.sh The script basically uses rpmbuild to build packages, we could have a build_deb.sh that

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Thierry Carrez
Lucas Alvares Gomes wrote: - OpenStack coordinated releases are taken from latest independent release - that release will then get backports stable maintenance, other independent releases don't So no stable branch for other independent releases? What if serious security issue is found in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] IRC meetings agenda is now driven from Gerrit !

2015-05-29 Thread Thierry Carrez
yatin kumbhare wrote: Great Work! New meetings or meeting changes would be proposed in Gerrit, and check/gate tests would make sure that there aren't any conflict. --Will this tell upfront, that in any given day of week, which are all meeting slots (time and irc meeting channels) are

Re: [openstack-dev] [fuel][plugin][astute][UI] DSL restrictions with an action: none to display a message?

2015-05-29 Thread Swann Croiset
Did the trick! Thanks for records, commands typed: workon fuel-web cd fuel-web/nailgun pip install -r requirements.txt pip install nodeenv nodeenv nenv source nenv/bin/activate npm install -g gulp bower gulp bower scp -r static/ root@master:/tmp/ master# dockerctl copy /tmp/static

[openstack-dev] [neutron][tempest]How to enable lbaas related test cases in templest?

2015-05-29 Thread Lily.Sing
Hi all, I try to test neutron LBaaS with tempest, but find all the API and scenario test cases related to it are skipped. Is there a way to enable these test cases? I have LBaaS service enabled already. Also, is there any detailed document about lbaasv2? Thanks. Best regards, Lily Xing(邢莉莉)

Re: [openstack-dev] Nodepool: puppet fails to create image

2015-05-29 Thread Eduard Matei
Thanks, I updated nodepool and nodepool scripts and now it seems the image is building. Eduard On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2015-05-28 11:58:43 +0300 (+0300), Eduard Matei wrote: We had some issues with jenkins/devstack so i updated both the

[openstack-dev] [all] Sphinx 1.3 is coming, breaking almost every docs

2015-05-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
Hi, Currently, in the global requirements, we have: sphinx=1.1.2,!=1.2.0,!=1.3b1,1.3 However, like it or not, sphinx 1.3 will soon reach Debian unstable. Already, I see something broken with it: https://gist.github.com/mitya57/1643a7c1666b650a0de5 (if you didn't notice, that's

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] I think nova behaves poorly when booting multiple instances

2015-05-29 Thread Sylvain Bauza
Le 29/05/2015 14:27, John Garbutt a écrit : On 27 May 2015 at 23:36, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 26 May 2015 at 03:37, Chris Friesen chris.frie...@windriver.com wrote: Hi all, I've just opened a bug around booting multiple instances at once, and it was suggested on

Re: [openstack-dev] [TripleO] [Puppet] Package updates strategy

2015-05-29 Thread Martin Mágr
On 05/28/2015 05:32 PM, James Slagle wrote: Then I'm +1 for running Puppet with 'ensure = latest' first and then 'yum update -y'. Seems ideal solution from my point of view. How would this solve the library update problem though?. If a new version of a library is released to address a security

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 05/28/2015 06:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: Hi all, tl;dr; At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them. I had a brief follow-up conversation with Doug and Thierry, but I'd like this

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thierry Carrez's message of 2015-05-29 12:12:51 +0200: Devananda van der Veen wrote: [...] The alternative we discussed: - use feature branches for risky / large work, keeping total # of branches small, and rebasing them regularly on master - keep trunk moving quickly for

[openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Thierry Carrez
Hi everyone, TL;DR: - We propose to stop tagging coordinated point releases (like 2015.1.1) - We continue maintaining stable branches as a trusted source of stable updates for all projects though Long version: At the stable branch session in Vancouver we discussed recent evolutions in the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 What about release notes? How can we now communicate some changes that require operator consideration or action? Ihar On 05/29/2015 03:41 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, TL;DR: - We propose to stop tagging coordinated point releases

[openstack-dev] [Monasca] Authentication through Keystone

2015-05-29 Thread Pradip Mukhopadhyay
Hello, How Monasca is getting authenticated through Keystone? The reason of asking this is: Monasca is in Java, whereas other services (like Cinder) uses the keystone-middleware-authentication (when configured) through api-paste.ini. And the middleware is in python. Does Monasca uses some

[openstack-dev] What does neutron.ml2.type_drivers namespace mean?

2015-05-29 Thread ????
I found some code in plugins/ml2/managers.py. There writes super(TypeManager, self).__init__('neutron.ml2.type_drivers',. The neutron.ml2.type_drivers is namespace by document. What does namespace mean? Can I write a random namespace linke

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Impressions from Vancouver Neutron Design Summits

2015-05-29 Thread Neil Jerram
Hi Gal, Thanks for starting this thread, and I'm sorry not to have met you during the summit. Vancouver was my first summit, and I very much enjoyed it. My reflection is that I came to the summit with two overall expectations, of which one proved correct and one false. The correct

Re: [openstack-dev] [Puppet] Proposed Change in Nova Service Defaults

2015-05-29 Thread Matt Fischer
I'd like them to default to enabled as well since it matches the other modules as you said. Was the intent here to allow bringing up new compute hosts without them being enabled? If so there's another flag that could be set to manage that state. As for the patch itself, we need to change it for

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Dave Walker
On 29 May 2015 at 14:41, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Hi everyone, TL;DR: - We propose to stop tagging coordinated point releases (like 2015.1.1) - We continue maintaining stable branches as a trusted source of stable updates for all projects though Long version: At the

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 5/29/2015 10:30 AM, Dave Walker wrote: On 29 May 2015 at 14:41, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: Hi everyone, TL;DR: - We propose to stop tagging coordinated point releases (like 2015.1.1) - We continue maintaining stable branches as a trusted source of stable updates for all

Re: [openstack-dev] [new][app-catalog] App Catalog next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Alexander Tivelkov
Hi Kevin, I don't suggest to use random IDs as artifact identifiers in the community app catalog. Of course we will need to have some globally unique names there (my initial idea on that is to have a combination of fully-qualified namespace-based name + version + signature) - and such names

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-05-29 16:30:12 +0100 (+0100), Dave Walker wrote: This is generally my opinion as-well, I always hoped that *every* commit would be considered a release rather than an arbitrary tagged date. [...] If we switch away from lockstep major/minor release versioning anyway (again separate

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][tempest] [lbaas] How to enable lbaas related test cases in templest?

2015-05-29 Thread Madhusudhan Kandadai
Hi Lily, Could you let us know how and what tests you are running for lbaasv2? To my understanding, I don't see all the api/scenario tests for lbaasv2 are skipped. However, there are documents about neutron lbaasv2 and API tests and they are documented [1][2] respectively. [1]

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Brant Knudson
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 8:11 AM, Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org wrote: On 05/28/2015 06:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: Hi all, tl;dr; At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them.

Re: [openstack-dev] [new][app-catalog] App Catalog next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Fox, Kevin M
I've ran into the opposite problem though with Glance. As an Op, I really really want to replace one image with a new one atomically with security updates preapplied. Think shellshock, ghost, etc. It will be basically be the same exact image as before, but patched. Referencing local ID's

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Thierry Carrez
Neil Jerram wrote: On 29/05/15 14:41, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, TL;DR: - We propose to stop tagging coordinated point releases (like 2015.1.1) - We continue maintaining stable branches as a trusted source of stable updates for all projects though [...] I initially

Re: [openstack-dev] [new][app-catalog] App Catalog next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Fox, Kevin M
Hi Alexander, Sweet. I'll have to kick the tires on the current state of Liberty soon. :) Reference by artifact IDs is going to be problematic I think. How do you release a generic set of resources to the world that reference specific randomly generated ID's? What about by Name? If not, then

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] I think nova behaves poorly when booting multiple instances

2015-05-29 Thread Chris Friesen
On 05/29/2015 06:27 AM, John Garbutt wrote: On 27 May 2015 at 23:36, Robert Collins robe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 26 May 2015 at 03:37, Chris Friesen chris.frie...@windriver.com wrote: Basically the problem is this: When booting up instances, nova allows the user to specify a min

[openstack-dev] [murano] oslo namespace changes and murano-dashboard

2015-05-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
Hi, Murano team! First, where do you hang out on IRC? I couldn’t find a channel that looked like it had any population, and there’s nothing mentioned on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Murano I’m trying to figure out whether the upcoming Oslo library releases are going to break your gate.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] Sphinx 1.3 is coming, breaking almost every docs

2015-05-29 Thread Matthew Thode
On 05/29/2015 07:56 AM, Thomas Goirand wrote: Hi, Currently, in the global requirements, we have: sphinx=1.1.2,!=1.2.0,!=1.3b1,1.3 However, like it or not, sphinx 1.3 will soon reach Debian unstable. Already, I see something broken with it:

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Matthew Thode
On 05/29/2015 09:44 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: On 5/29/2015 8:41 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, TL;DR: - We propose to stop tagging coordinated point releases (like 2015.1.1) - We continue maintaining stable branches as a trusted source of stable updates for all projects though

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][bgpvpn] IRC meetings on BGP VPN interconnection API

2015-05-29 Thread thomas.morin
Hi everyone, As a follow-up to discussions last week on a BGP VPN interconnection API and the work started with the people already involved, we are going to hold IRC meetings to discuss how to progress the different pieces of work, in particular on the API itself [1] and its

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-05-29 17:50:01 +0200 (+0200), Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: [...] if we attempt to fix a security issue that has a backwards incompatible fix, then we are forced in introducing a new configuration option to opt-in the new secure world. [...] To my knowledge that's how we've handled these in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Neil Jerram
On 29/05/15 14:41, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, TL;DR: - We propose to stop tagging coordinated point releases (like 2015.1.1) - We continue maintaining stable branches as a trusted source of stable updates for all projects though [...] I initially misunderstood your email as saying

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 5/29/2015 8:41 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, TL;DR: - We propose to stop tagging coordinated point releases (like 2015.1.1) - We continue maintaining stable branches as a trusted source of stable updates for all projects though Long version: At the stable branch session in

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Matthew Thode
On 05/29/2015 10:18 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: What about release notes? How can we now communicate some changes that require operator consideration or action? Ihar On 05/29/2015 03:41 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi everyone, TL;DR: - We propose to stop tagging coordinated point releases

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Thierry Carrez
Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: What about release notes? How can we now communicate some changes that require operator consideration or action? Arguably each and every change requiring operator consideration or action mentioned in these release notes is a failure in the stable branch process -- this

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 05/29/2015 05:26 PM, Thierry Carrez wrote: Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: What about release notes? How can we now communicate some changes that require operator consideration or action? Arguably each and every change requiring operator

Re: [openstack-dev] [murano] oslo namespace changes and murano-dashboard

2015-05-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-05-29 12:28:37 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: First, where do you hang out on IRC? I couldn’t find a channel that looked like it had any population, and there’s nothing mentioned on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Murano [...] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC says it's #murano

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread David Medberry
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org wrote: If you were a consumer of those and will miss them, please explain why. In particular, please let us know how consuming that version (which was only made available every n months) is significantly better than picking

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][bgpvpn] IRC meetings on BGP VPN interconnection API

2015-05-29 Thread Paul Michali
You can use the VPNaaS IRC channel/time... we don't have much on the agenda right now, other than discussion VPN flavors for Liberty, in which it would be good to discuss BGP VPN and Edge VPN. Regards, Paul Michali (pc_m) On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 11:08 AM thomas.mo...@orange.com wrote: Hi

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Dave Walker
On 29 May 2015 at 16:25, Matthew Thode prometheanf...@gentoo.org wrote: SNIP for release notes just do git log between commit hashes? For Ubuntu, I wrote a tool to do just this and generate a Debian style changelog (later cleaned up quite a lot by adamg!). It parses the git log looking for LP

[openstack-dev] [Ironic] development team

2015-05-29 Thread Adam Lawson
I have a question I'd like to ask offline... Can someone from the ironic team ping me? Have a question about pxe... __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Unsubscribe:

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Impressions from Vancouver Neutron Design Summits

2015-05-29 Thread Anita Kuno
On 05/28/2015 05:11 AM, Gal Sagie wrote: Hi Kevin, The main idea that i tried to express, is we need a course of action after the discussions, i understand that we want to discuss high level points but we still need to decide on a follow up plan, because otherwise this is all wasted.

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Haïkel
2015-05-29 15:41 GMT+02:00 Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org: Hi everyone, TL;DR: - We propose to stop tagging coordinated point releases (like 2015.1.1) - We continue maintaining stable branches as a trusted source of stable updates for all projects though Hi, I'm one of the main

[openstack-dev] [release] library releases planned for Monday 1 June 2015

2015-05-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
We have several library projects outside of Oslo that need releases anyway, and since some of them are blocking work we want to do to drop the “oslo” namespace package I have collected a list and will tag releases on Monday morning. I have confirmed all of these releases with the PTLs of the

Re: [openstack-dev] [oslo] Updates from the Summit

2015-05-29 Thread Joshua Harlow
Gorka Eguileor wrote: On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 10:51:35AM -0700, Joshua Harlow wrote: Btw, if u *do not* want to do a spec (using [1]) or blueprint let me know and I'll probably make a spec so that we can ensure (and agree on) the semantics of this because the specifics of what 'cancel' or

Re: [openstack-dev] [new][app-catalog] App Catalog next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
I believe that current app store approach uses only image name rather then ID. So you can replace image with a new one without affecting application definitions. Both Heat and Murano can use just image name without IDs. I think it should be supported in artifact repository too. As for other then

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] [qa] A place for gate job contacts?

2015-05-29 Thread Anita Kuno
On 05/29/2015 10:15 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Anita Kuno's message of 2015-05-28 17:35:06 -0400: On 05/28/2015 04:46 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-05-28 13:30:44 -0700 (-0700), Clint Byrum wrote: [...] Do we already have this hidden somewhere, or would it make sense to maybe

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Matt Riedemann
On 5/29/2015 10:00 AM, David Medberry wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org mailto:thie...@openstack.org wrote: If you were a consumer of those and will miss them, please explain why. In particular, please let us know how consuming that version

[openstack-dev] [app-catalog] Poll for IRC meeting

2015-05-29 Thread Christopher Aedo
I’ve started a doodle poll to vote on the initial IRC meeting schedule, if you’re interested in helping improve and build up this catalog please vote for the day/time that works best and get involved! http://doodle.com/vf3husyn4bdkui8w The poll will close in one week (June 5). Just sending this

Re: [openstack-dev] [new][app-catalog] App Catalog next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
I think the next logical step is to add versioning and predefined tags so we can distinguish application versions and application status. Right now the catalog has just information about application without any strict schema enforced. The separate problem is to how this information should be

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Haïkel
2015-05-29 21:36 GMT+02:00 Dave Walker em...@daviey.com: Responses inline. On 29 May 2015 6:15 pm, Haïkel hgue...@fedoraproject.org wrote: 2015-05-29 15:41 GMT+02:00 Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org: Hi everyone, TL;DR: - We propose to stop tagging coordinated point releases (like

Re: [openstack-dev] [all][release] summit session summary: Release Versioning for Server Applications

2015-05-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-05-29 17:38:04 -0400 (-0400), Doug Hellmann wrote: [...] This will result in resetting the version numbers to values lower than they are currently (12 2015), but the distributions can prepend an epoch value to their version number to ensure upgrades work properly. [...] Also for

[openstack-dev] [heat-translator] [heat] IRC Channel for heat-translator

2015-05-29 Thread Sahdev P Zala
Hi everyone, I just wanted to let you know that the heat-translator project now has IRC Channel in place - #openstack-heat-translator Thanks! Regards, Sahdev Zala __ OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Renaming the IRC channel to #openstack-puppet

2015-05-29 Thread Mike Dorman
+1 Let’s do it. From: Matt Fischer Reply-To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Date: Friday, May 29, 2015 at 1:46 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Renaming the IRC channel to #openstack-puppet I

[openstack-dev] [all] inactive projects

2015-05-29 Thread Joe Gordon
Hi All, It turns out we have a few repositories that have been inactive for almost a year, appear to be dead but don't have any documentation to reflecting that. (And a lot more that have been dead for over half a year) format: days since last updated - name List of stackforge that have not

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] IRC meetings agenda is now driven from Gerrit !

2015-05-29 Thread Tony Breeds
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:42:58AM +0530, yatin kumbhare wrote: Great Work! New meetings or meeting changes would be proposed in Gerrit, and check/gate tests would make sure that there aren't any conflict. --Will this tell upfront, that in any given day of week, which are all meeting

Re: [openstack-dev] [new][app-catalog] App Catalog next steps

2015-05-29 Thread Christopher Aedo
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Fox, Kevin M kevin@pnnl.gov wrote: As an Op, I really really want to replace one image with a new one atomically with security updates preapplied. Think shellshock, ghost, etc. It will be basically be the same exact image as before, but patched. On Fri,

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] [qa] A place for gate job contacts?

2015-05-29 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Anita Kuno's message of 2015-05-29 10:51:35 -0700: On 05/29/2015 10:15 AM, Doug Hellmann wrote: Excerpts from Anita Kuno's message of 2015-05-28 17:35:06 -0400: On 05/28/2015 04:46 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: On 2015-05-28 13:30:44 -0700 (-0700), Clint Byrum wrote: [...] Do

[openstack-dev] [magnum] Please test each backport of the heat templates before commit

2015-05-29 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
If you are backporting heat templates for Kubernetes, please test each commit with a bay create followed by a creation of a redis application. For an example redis application, check out my demo at: https://github.com/stackforge/kolla/tree/master/demos/magnum Master is currently broken, I

[openstack-dev] [kolla] gate failing sporadically

2015-05-29 Thread Steven Dake (stdake)
Hey Folks, I noticed the Kolla functional gate is failing sporadically. It seems that sometimes an image doesn’t build. http://logs.openstack.org/75/186475/1/check/check-kolla-functional-f21/8f23913/console.html One thing that looks off there is barbican is not building a —release image (I.e.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Horizon] dashboard-app split in horizon

2015-05-29 Thread Tripp, Travis S
Hi all, I just added my 2 cents to a couple of these patches, but in my opinion all of the existing patches in gerrit for angular tests that were written as part of the launch instance effort should be finalized and merged prior to any further reorganization patches going through. Creating a

[openstack-dev] [nova] Progressing/tracking work on libvirt / vif drivers

2015-05-29 Thread Neil Jerram
Hi all, Per yesterday's IRC meeting [1], and discussion in Vancouver, Nova work is being somewhat driven by the etherpad at [2]. But this etherpad doesn't have a section for libvirt / vif driver changes. The log at [1] briefly touched on this, but moved on after noting that Dan PB had

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Ian Cordasco
On 5/29/15, 12:14, Haïkel hgue...@fedoraproject.org wrote: 2015-05-29 15:41 GMT+02:00 Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org: Hi everyone, TL;DR: - We propose to stop tagging coordinated point releases (like 2015.1.1) - We continue maintaining stable branches as a trusted source of stable

Re: [openstack-dev] [Ironic] [TC] Discussion: changing Ironic's release model

2015-05-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
Excerpts from Thomas Goirand's message of 2015-05-29 15:11:25 +0200: On 05/28/2015 06:41 PM, Devananda van der Veen wrote: Hi all, tl;dr; At the summit, the Ironic team discussed the challenges we've had with the current release model and came up with some ideas to address them. I

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Dave Walker
Responses inline. On 29 May 2015 6:15 pm, Haïkel hgue...@fedoraproject.org wrote: 2015-05-29 15:41 GMT+02:00 Thierry Carrez thie...@openstack.org: Hi everyone, TL;DR: - We propose to stop tagging coordinated point releases (like 2015.1.1) - We continue maintaining stable branches as a

[openstack-dev] [puppet] Renaming the IRC channel to #openstack-puppet

2015-05-29 Thread Mathieu Gagné
Hi, We recently asked for our IRC channel (#puppet-openstack) to be logged by the infra team. We happen to be the only channel suffixing the word openstack instead of prefixing it. [1] I would like to propose renaming our IRC channnel to #openstack-puppet to better fit the mold (convention)

Re: [openstack-dev] [all] [stable] No longer doing stable point releases

2015-05-29 Thread Dave Walker
On 29 May 2015 7:41 pm, Matt Riedemann mrie...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote: SNIP This, IMO, is about the only time right now that I see doing point releases on stable as worthwhile. In other words, things have been very touchy in stable for at least the last 6 months, so in the rare moments of

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] I think nova behaves poorly when booting multiple instances

2015-05-29 Thread Joshua Harlow
John Garbutt wrote: On 27 May 2015 at 23:36, Robert Collinsrobe...@robertcollins.net wrote: On 26 May 2015 at 03:37, Chris Friesenchris.frie...@windriver.com wrote: Hi all, I've just opened a bug around booting multiple instances at once, and it was suggested on IRC that I mention it here

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Renaming the IRC channel to #openstack-puppet

2015-05-29 Thread Matt Fischer
I would love to do this. +2! On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Mathieu Gagné mga...@iweb.com wrote: Hi, We recently asked for our IRC channel (#puppet-openstack) to be logged by the infra team. We happen to be the only channel suffixing the word openstack instead of prefixing it. [1] I

Re: [openstack-dev] [murano] oslo namespace changes and murano-dashboard

2015-05-29 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
Hi, We do monitor both IRC and openstack-dev. #murano is our IRC channel. Most of the time there are someone who can respond quickly. Mirantis and Telefonica guys are located in Europe so they will respond during US morning but not during US day time. HP guys are US based so they can respond

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][api] New micro-version needed for api bug fix or not?

2015-05-29 Thread Jay Pipes
On 05/29/2015 05:04 AM, John Garbutt wrote: On 29 May 2015 at 09:00, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui sahid.ferdja...@redhat.com wrote: On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 08:47:01AM +0200, Jens Rosenboom wrote: As the discussion in https://review.openstack.org/179569 still continues about whether this is just a

[openstack-dev] [qa] Need volunteers for tempest bug triage

2015-05-29 Thread David Kranz
The rotation has gotten a bit thin, and the untriaged bug count growing, with no one signing up for this past week: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-bug-triage-rotation It would help if every core reviewer could be doing this every other month. Getting some more sign ups would be very

Re: [openstack-dev] [packaging] Adding packaging as an OpenStack project

2015-05-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-05-28 22:45:37 + (+), Fox, Kevin M wrote: You could pass the cache through with a volume Yeah, from the what can we do with our current CI infrastructure? perspective, we would just need a way to identify what bits benefit from being cached for these particular builds and

Re: [openstack-dev] [packaging] Adding packaging as an OpenStack project

2015-05-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-05-28 23:09:41 +0200 (+0200), Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] Also, it is my understanding that infra will not accept to use long-living VMs, and prefer to spawn new instances. [...] Right, after we run arbitrary user-submitted code on a server, we cease to be able to trust it and so

Re: [openstack-dev] [packaging] Adding packaging as an OpenStack project

2015-05-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-05-29 10:37:43 +0100 (+0100), Derek Higgins wrote: [...] I think the feature in delorean that is most useful is that it will continue to maintain a history of usable package repositories representing the openstack projects over time, for this we would need a long running instance, but

[openstack-dev] [all] summit session summary: Moving Apps to Python 3

2015-05-29 Thread Doug Hellmann
This message is a summary of the discussion about enabling integration testing under Python 3 from the summit. The full notes are in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-cross-project-python3 and the spec is up at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177375/ tl;dr: Most of our libraries now

Re: [openstack-dev] [packaging] Adding packaging as an OpenStack project

2015-05-29 Thread Dmitry Borodaenko
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 1:48 PM Jeremy Stanley fu...@yuggoth.org wrote: On 2015-05-28 23:09:41 +0200 (+0200), Thomas Goirand wrote: Also, it is my understanding that infra will not accept to use long-living VMs, and prefer to spawn new instances. Right, after we run arbitrary

Re: [openstack-dev] [packaging] Adding packaging as an OpenStack project

2015-05-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-05-28 23:19:36 +0200 (+0200), Thomas Goirand wrote: [...] By the way, I was thinking about the sbuild package caching system, and thought: how about network mounting /var/cache/pbuilder/aptcache using something like Manila (or any other distributed filesystem)? Does infra have such

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Renaming the IRC channel to #openstack-puppet

2015-05-29 Thread Steve Martinelli
Good call, it's always at the bottom of my irc client. Might want to change the channel topic to remind folks to move to #openstack-puppet Thanks, Steve Martinelli OpenStack Keystone Core From: Mathieu Gagné mga...@iweb.com To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] Availability of device names for operations with volumes and BDM and other features.

2015-05-29 Thread Nikola Đipanov
On 05/29/2015 12:55 AM, Feodor Tersin wrote: Nicola, i would add some words to Alexandre repsonse. We (standalone ec2api project guys) have filed some bugs (the main is [1]), but we don't know how to fix them since the way Nova's device names are moved on is unclear for us. Neither BP, nor

Re: [openstack-dev] [puppet] Renaming the IRC channel to #openstack-puppet

2015-05-29 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On 2015-05-29 15:39:20 -0400 (-0400), Mathieu Gagné wrote: [...] Jemery Stanley (fungi) explained to me that previous IRC channel renames were done following the Ubuntu procedure. [2] Last rename I remember of was #openstack-stable to #openstack-release and it went smoothly without any serious

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][bgpvpn] IRC meetings on BGP VPN interconnection API

2015-05-29 Thread Vikram Choudhary
Hi Thomos/Mathieu, Thanks for starting this mail thread. Let's discuss over the IRC as suggested by Paul. Thanks Vikram On 5/29/15, Paul Michali p...@michali.net wrote: You can use the VPNaaS IRC channel/time... we don't have much on the agenda right now, other than discussion VPN flavors for

Re: [openstack-dev] [Puppet] Proposed Change in Nova Service Defaults

2015-05-29 Thread Richard Raseley
Matt Fischer wrote: Was the intent here to allow bringing up new compute hosts without them being enabled? If so there's another flag that could be set to manage that state. Mathieu posited the following intent in the review: It was used in some active/passive setup (as stated in the bug

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