Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward

2014-08-08 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 8, 2014, at 10:56 AM, Kevin Benton wrote: > There is an enforcement component to the group policy that allows you to use > the current APIs and it's the reason that group policy is integrated into the > neutron project. If someone uses the current APIs, the group policy plugin > will ma

[openstack-dev] Fwd: [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 13, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 08:57:40AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: >> Hi. >> >> One of the action items from the nova midcycle was that I was asked to >> make nova's expectations of core reviews more clear. This email is an >> attempt at that

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 13, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 08:57:40AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: >> Hi. >> >> One of the action items from the nova midcycle was that I was asked to >> make nova's expectations of core reviews more clear. This email is an >> attempt at that

[openstack-dev] Fwd: [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-13 Thread Maru Newby
My apologies, I managed to break the thread here. Please respond to the thread with subject 'Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers' in preference to this one. Maru On Aug 13, 2014, at 9:01 AM, Maru Newby wrote: > > On Aug 13, 2014, at 2:57 AM, Da

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Rotating the weekly Neutron meeting

2014-08-13 Thread Maru Newby
+1 Maru On Aug 13, 2014, at 7:05 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > Per this week's Neutron meeting [1], it was decided that offering a > rotating meeting slot for the weekly Neutron meeting would be a good > thing. This will allow for a much easier time for people in > Asia/Pacific timezones, as well

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Which changes need accompanying bugs?

2014-08-14 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 13, 2014, at 11:11 AM, Kevin Benton wrote: > Is the pylint static analysis that caught that error prone to false > positives? If not, I agree that it would be really nice if that were made > part of the tox check so these don't have to be fixed after the fact. > > To me that particular p

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 14, 2014, at 8:52 AM, Russell Bryant wrote: > On 08/14/2014 11:40 AM, David Kranz wrote: >> On 08/14/2014 10:54 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 8/14/2014 3:47 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 09:24:36AM +1000, Michael Still wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14,

Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][core] Expectations of core reviewers

2014-08-18 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 13, 2014, at 10:32 PM, Michael Still wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Michael Still wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:24 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: >>> Just wanted to quickly weigh in with my thoughts on this important >

[openstack-dev] [neutron] Runtime checks vs Sanity checks

2014-08-23 Thread Maru Newby
Kevin Benton has proposed adding a runtime check for netns permission problems: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109736/ There seems to be consensus on the patch that this is something that we want to do at runtime, but that would seem to run counter to the precedent that host-specific issues s

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Incubator concerns from packaging perspective

2014-08-23 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 23, 2014, at 4:06 AM, Sumit Naiksatam wrote: > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 5:12 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: >>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >>> Hash: SHA512 >>> >>> On 20/08/14 18:28, Salvatore Orlando wrote: Some comments

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Incubator concerns from packaging perspective

2014-08-23 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 20, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Salvatore Orlando wrote: > Some comments inline. > > Salvatore > > On 20 August 2014 17:38, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA512 >> >> Hi all, >> >> I've read the proposal for incubator as described at [1], and I have >

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][cisco] Cisco Nexus requires patched ncclient

2014-08-23 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 14, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: > Signed PGP part > FYI: I've uploaded a review for openstack/requirements to add the > upstream module into the list of potential dependencies [1]. Once it's > merged, I'm going to introduce this new requirement for Neutron. The only reason s

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][cisco] Cisco Nexus requires patched ncclient

2014-08-24 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 24, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Henry Gessau wrote: > Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: >> Now, maybe putting the module into requirements.txt is an overkill >> (though I doubt it). In that case, we could be interested in getting >> the info in some other centralized way. > > Maru is of the opinion that it

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][cisco] Cisco Nexus requires patched ncclient

2014-08-25 Thread Maru Newby
tron’s requirements.txt? > On 24 Aug 2014 10:43, "Maru Newby" wrote: > > On Aug 14, 2014, at 1:55 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote: > > > Signed PGP part > > FYI: I've uploaded a review for openstack/requirements to add the > > upstream module into the list of potentia

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Incubator concerns from packaging perspective

2014-08-26 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 25, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Pradeep Kilambi (pkilambi) wrote: > > > On 8/23/14, 5:36 PM, "Maru Newby" wrote: > >> >> On Aug 23, 2014, at 4:06 AM, Sumit Naiksatam >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Kyle Mestery

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Incubator concerns from packaging perspective

2014-09-01 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 26, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Pradeep Kilambi (pkilambi) wrote: > > > On 8/26/14, 4:49 AM, "Maru Newby" wrote: > >> >> On Aug 25, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Pradeep Kilambi (pkilambi) >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On 8/23/14,

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra][qa][neutron] Neutron full job, advanced services, and the integrated gate

2014-09-01 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 27, 2014, at 1:47 AM, Salvatore Orlando wrote: > TL; DR > A few folks are proposing to stop running tests for neutron advanced services > [ie: (lb|vpn|fw)aas] in the integrated gate, and run them only on the neutron > gate. > > Reason: projects like nova are 100% orthogonal to neutron

[openstack-dev] [neutron][db] Ensuring db isolation between tests

2014-09-18 Thread Maru Newby
For legacy reasons, the Neutron test suite creates and destroys a db for each test. There is a patch proposed to create the tables once and then ensure the tables are wiped at the end of each test [1], providing a performance improvement of ~10%. I was wondering if this is the best way to prov

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Rename 'tenant' to 'project' as per Keystone?

2013-11-26 Thread Maru Newby
Keystone is almost finished replacing the term 'tenant' with 'project' (see recent thread https://www.mail-archive.com/openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org/msg09709.html) and we might want to think about how and when Neutron makes a similar transition. It's an unlikely priority in the near term

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Stop logging non-exceptional conditions as ERROR

2013-11-27 Thread Maru Newby
Just a heads up, the console output for neutron gate jobs is about to get a lot noisier. Any log output that contains 'ERROR' is going to be dumped into the console output so that we can identify and eliminate unnecessary error logging. Once we've cleaned things up, the presence of unexpected

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Stop logging non-exceptional conditions as ERROR

2013-11-30 Thread Maru Newby
ught earlier. m. > > Salvatore > > > On 27 November 2013 17:50, Maru Newby wrote: > Just a heads up, the console output for neutron gate jobs is about to get a > lot noisier. Any log output that contains 'ERROR' is going to be dumped into > the co

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Stop logging non-exceptional conditions as ERROR

2013-12-01 Thread Maru Newby
eve this but I will be flying (wifi > uncertain). I do hope that some additional individuals come forward to > help with this. > > Thanks Maru, Salvatore and Armando, > Anita. > > [0] > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/log-only-exceptional-conditions-as-erro

Re: [openstack-dev] request-id in API response

2013-12-01 Thread Maru Newby
On Nov 30, 2013, at 1:00 AM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 11/29/2013 10:33 AM, Jay Pipes wrote: >> On 11/28/2013 07:45 AM, Akihiro Motoki wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am working on adding request-id to API response in Neutron. >>> After I checked what header is used in other projects >>> header name vari

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Stop logging non-exceptional conditions as ERROR

2013-12-02 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 2, 2013, at 10:19 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > On Dec 2, 2013 3:39 AM, "Maru Newby" wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 2, 2013, at 2:07 AM, Anita Kuno wrote: > > > > > Great initiative putting this plan together, Maru. Thanks for doing > >

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-03 Thread Maru Newby
I've been investigating a bug that is preventing VM's from receiving IP addresses when a Neutron service is under high load: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1192381 High load causes the DHCP agent's status updates to be delayed, causing the Neutron service to assume that the agent is do

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Tuning QueuePool parameters?

2013-12-03 Thread Maru Newby
I recently ran into this bug while trying to concurrently boot a large number (75) of VMs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1160442 I see that the fix for the bug added configuration of SQLAlchemy QueuePool parameters that should prevent the boot failures I was seeing. However, I don'

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-03 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 4, 2013, at 1:47 AM, Stephen Gran wrote: > On 03/12/13 16:08, Maru Newby wrote: >> I've been investigating a bug that is preventing VM's from receiving IP >> addresses when a Neutron service is under high load: >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-03 Thread Maru Newby
n more than one physical host in > combination with multiple child processes. > > Carl > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Stephen Gran > wrote: > > On 03/12/13 16:08, Maru Newby wrote: > >> > >> I've been investigating a bug that is preventing VM'

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-03 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 4, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-12-03 08:08:09 -0800: >> I've been investigating a bug that is preventing VM's from receiving IP >> addresses when a Neutron service is under high load: >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/11

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-04 Thread Maru Newby
means that the problem of dhcp notifications being dropped is little improved. I intend to submit a fix that ensures that notifications are sent regardless of agent status, in any case. m. > > Carl > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Stephen Gran > wrote: >> On 03/12/13 1

Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack][qa][Tempest][Network][Neutron] tenant_networks_reachable

2013-12-04 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 4, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Yair Fried wrote: > Hi > In tempest.conf, Is the parameter "tenant_networks_reachable" affected by > anything other than neutron using ip name-spaces (which is the default > setting) or not, and if not using it - if the tempest host is the same as the > neutron ser

Re: [openstack-dev] request-id in API response

2013-12-05 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 3, 2013, at 12:18 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > > On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 7:04 PM, John Dickinson wrote: > Just to add to the story, Swift uses "X-Trans-Id" and generates it in the > outer-most "catch_errors" middleware. > > Swift's catch errors middleware is responsible for ensuring t

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-05 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 5, 2013, at 6:43 AM, Carl Baldwin wrote: > I have offered up https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60082/ as a > backport to Havana. Interest was expressed in the blueprint for doing > this even before this thread. If there is consensus for this as the > stop-gap then it is there for the mer

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-05 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 5, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Isaku Yamahata wrote: > On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 12:37:19PM +0900, > Maru Newby wrote: > >> In the current architecture, the Neutron service handles RPC and WSGI with a >> single process and is prone to being overloaded such that agent heartbea

Re: [openstack-dev] request-id in API response

2013-12-05 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 6, 2013, at 1:09 AM, John Dickinson wrote: > > On Dec 5, 2013, at 1:36 AM, Maru Newby wrote: > >> >> On Dec 3, 2013, at 12:18 AM, Joe Gordon wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 7:04 PM, John Dickinson w

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-08 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 7, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > On 7 December 2013 21:53, Isaku Yamahata wrote: >> >> Case 3: Hardware failure. So an agent on the node is gone. >>Another agent will run on another node. >> >> If AMQP service is set up not to lose notification, notifications will b

[openstack-dev] [oslo][neutron] Post-mortem debugging for tests?

2013-12-09 Thread Maru Newby
Are any other projects interested in adding back the post-mortem debugging support we lost in the move away from nose? I have a patch in review for neutron and salv-orlando asked whether oslo might be the better place for it. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/43776/ m.

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-10 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 10, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Isaku Yamahata wrote: > On Tue, Dec 10, 2013 at 07:28:10PM +1300, > Robert Collins wrote: > >> On 10 December 2013 19:16, Isaku Yamahata wrote: >> >>> Answering myself. If connection is closed, it will reconnects automatically >>> at rpc layer. See neutron.openst

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-10 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:43 PM, Édouard Thuleau wrote: > There also another bug you can link/duplicate with #1192381 is > https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1185916. > I proposed a fix but it's not the good way. I abandoned it. > > Édouard. Thank you for pointing this out! m. __

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-10 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 10, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Isaku Yamahata wrote: > On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 08:43:59AM +1300, > Robert Collins wrote: > listening: when an agent connects after an outage, it first starts listening, then does a poll for updates it missed. >>> >>> Are you suggesting that processing o

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-10 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 11, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Isaku Yamahata wrote: > On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 01:23:36AM +0900, > Maru Newby wrote: > >> >> On Dec 10, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Isaku Yamahata wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Dec 09, 2013 at 08:43:59AM +1300, >>> Robert Collins

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Cores - Prioritize merging migration fixes after tox change merges

2013-12-13 Thread Maru Newby
As per Anita's email, we're not to approve anything until the following tox fix merges: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/60825 Please keep an eye on the change, and once it merges, make sure that the following patches merge before regular approval rules resume: https://review.openstack.org/#/c

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] DHCP Agent Reliability

2013-12-16 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 13, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Isaku Yamahata wrote: > On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 04:30:17PM +0900, > Maru Newby wrote: > >> >> On Dec 5, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Isaku Yamahata wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 12:37:19PM +0900, >>> Maru Newby wrot

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][qa] The 'spec' parameter of mock.patch()

2014-01-10 Thread Maru Newby
I recently saw a case [1] where a misspelled assertion method (asoptt_called_once_with vs assert_called_once_with) did not result in a test failure because the object it was called on was created by mock.patch() without any of the spec/spec_set/autospec parameters being set. Might it make sense

Re: [openstack-dev] [Tempest][Production] Tempest / the gate / real world load

2014-01-13 Thread Maru Newby
I'm afraid I missed this topic the first time around, and I think it bears revisiting. tl;dr: I think we should consider ensuring gate stability in the face of resource-starved services by some combination of more intelligent test design and better handling of resource starvation (for example,

[openstack-dev] [qa][neutron] API tests in the Neutron tree

2014-02-12 Thread Maru Newby
At the last 2 summits, I've suggested that API tests could be maintained in the Neutron tree and reused by Tempest. I've finally submitted some patches that demonstrate this concept: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72585/ (implements a unit test for the lifecycle of the network resource) htt

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][neutron] API tests in the Neutron tree

2014-02-12 Thread Maru Newby
On Feb 12, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 02/12/2014 01:48 PM, Maru Newby wrote: >> At the last 2 summits, I've suggested that API tests could be maintained in >> the Neutron tree and reused by Tempest. I've finally submitted some patches >>

Re: [openstack-dev] [qa][neutron] API tests in the Neutron tree

2014-02-12 Thread Maru Newby
On Feb 12, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 02/12/2014 04:25 PM, Maru Newby wrote: >> >> On Feb 12, 2014, at 12:36 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >> >>> On 02/12/2014 01:48 PM, Maru Newby wrote: >>>> At the last 2 summits, I've suggested that API

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][nova] Neutron plugin authors: Does port status indicate liveness?

2014-02-12 Thread Maru Newby
Booting a Nova instance when Neutron is enabled is often unreliable due to the lack of coordination between Nova and Neutron apart from port allocation. Aaron Rosen and I have been talking about fixing this by having Nova perform a check for port 'liveness' after vif plug and before vm boot. T

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] Core/Vendor code decomposition

2014-12-08 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Gary Kotton wrote: > Hi Kyle, > I am not missing the point. I understand the proposal. I just think that it > has some shortcomings (unless I misunderstand, which will certainly not be > the first time and most definitely not the last). The thinning out is to have

Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Neutron] out-of-tree plugin for Mech driver/L2 and vif_driver

2014-12-09 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 9, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:53:19AM +0100, Maxime Leroy wrote: >> I have also proposed a blueprint to have a new plugin mechanism in >> nova to load external vif driver. (nova-specs: >> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/136827/ and nova (rfc p

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] UniqueConstraint for name and tenant_id in security group

2014-12-12 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 11, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 12/11/2014 04:16 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: >> On 12/11/2014 04:07 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: >>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 1:04 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: On 12/11/2014 04:01 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: > > On Dec 11, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Henry

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] UniqueConstraint for name and tenant_id in security group

2014-12-15 Thread Maru Newby
On Dec 12, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 12/12/2014 01:05 PM, Maru Newby wrote: >> >> On Dec 11, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >> >>> On 12/11/2014 04:16 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: >>>> On 12/11/2014 04:07 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote: &g

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron] UniqueConstraint for name and tenant_id in security group

2014-12-15 Thread Maru Newby
;> >> On 12/12/14 22:40, Sean Dague wrote: >>> On 12/12/2014 01:05 PM, Maru Newby wrote: >>>> >>>> On Dec 11, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Sean Dague wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 12/11/2014 04:16 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: >>>>>> On 12/

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Maru Newby
As per a recent exchange on #openstack-neutron, I’ve been asked to present my views on this effort. What follows is in no way intended to detract from the hard work and dedication of those undertaking it, but I think that their energy could be better spent. At nova’s juno mid-cycle in July, th

Re: [openstack-dev] The state of nova-network to neutron migration

2015-01-08 Thread Maru Newby
> On Jan 8, 2015, at 3:54 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > > On 01/08/2015 06:41 PM, Maru Newby wrote: >> As per a recent exchange on #openstack-neutron, I’ve been asked to present >> my views on this effort. What follows is in no way intended to detract from >> the hard w

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Changes to the core team

2015-01-15 Thread Maru Newby
+1 to Doug’s addition. He’s been a workhorse in moving lbaas and the services split forward and his being able to finally merge code in the main repo should be a boon to our merge velocity. Many thanks to Sumit for his long-serving dedication as a core reviewer. I hope to see him return to th

[openstack-dev] [Neutron][QA] Partial fix for unittest memory consumption

2014-05-08 Thread Maru Newby
Memory usage due to plugin+mock leakage is addressed by the following patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92793/ I'm seeing residual (post-test) memory usage decrease from ~4.5gb to ~1.3gb with 12 concurrent test runners. Of the 1.3gb, sqlalchemy is taking the lion share at ~500mb, so that

Re: [openstack-dev] Request to consider merging OVS ARP responder

2014-05-19 Thread Maru Newby
The patch in question is doing an invasive runtime check [1] to determine whether arp header modification is supported by ovs. I seem to remember a lack of consensus on whether invasive runtime checks were acceptable around vxlan detection, and I would appreciate confirmation from other cores t

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Proposed changes to core team

2014-05-21 Thread Maru Newby
On May 21, 2014, at 1:59 PM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > Neutron cores, please vote +1/-1 for the proposed addition of Carl > Baldwin to Neutron core. +1 from me ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cg

[openstack-dev] [neutron][group-based-policy] Should we revisit the priority of group-based policy?

2014-05-22 Thread Maru Newby
At the summit session last week for group-based policy, there were many concerns voiced about the approach being undertaken. I think those concerns deserve a wider audience, and I'm going to highlight some of them here. The primary concern seemed to be related to the complexity of the approach

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][group-based-policy] Should we revisit the priority of group-based policy?

2014-05-22 Thread Maru Newby
On May 22, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Maru Newby wrote: > At the summit session last week for group-based policy, there were many > concerns voiced about the approach being undertaken. I think those concerns > deserve a wider audience, and I'm going to highlight some of them here. &g

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][group-based-policy] Should we revisit the priority of group-based policy?

2014-05-22 Thread Maru Newby
e engineering > principles, like modularity and loose decoupling of system components. > > I think we didn't have enough time during the summit to iron out some > of the concerns voiced here, and it seems like the IRC meeting for > Group Policy would not be the right venue to tr

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][group-based-policy] Should we revisit the priority of group-based policy?

2014-05-22 Thread Maru Newby
. As such, and as was agreed to in the irc meeting this morning, the way forward is to recognize that the POC is best considered a prototype useful in informing efforts to iterate in the open. m. > > > > On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Maru Newby wrote: > On May 22, 2014,

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][FYI] Bookmarklet for neutron gerrit review

2014-03-10 Thread Maru Newby
+1 I think there should be naming standard for all reviews (e.g. [test] Jenkins, [test-external] VMware) so that gerrit css can colorize automatic review comments no matter the project. m. On Mar 7, 2014, at 2:08 AM, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > if peoples like this why don't we have it direct

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-qa] Graduation Requirements + Scope of Tempest

2014-03-25 Thread Maru Newby
separate project repository. >> >> Hopefully, the tests as designed could easily take a new configuration >> directive and a short bit of work with OS QA will get the integrated FTs >> working as well as the isolated ones. >> >> --Rocky > This issue has been mu

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-qa] Graduation Requirements + Scope of Tempest

2014-03-26 Thread Maru Newby
On Mar 26, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:49 AM, Maru Newby wrote: > > On Mar 21, 2014, at 9:01 AM, David Kranz wrote: > > > On 03/20/2014 04:19 PM, Rochelle.RochelleGrober wrote: > >> > >>> -Ori

Re: [openstack-dev] [openstack-qa] Graduation Requirements + Scope of Tempest

2014-03-26 Thread Maru Newby
On Mar 26, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Sean Dague wrote: > On 03/25/2014 04:49 AM, Maru Newby wrote: >> >> On Mar 21, 2014, at 9:01 AM, David Kranz wrote: >> >>> On 03/20/2014 04:19 PM, Rochelle.RochelleGrober wrote: >>>> >>>>>

[openstack-dev] [neutron][stable] metadata agent performance

2014-10-21 Thread Maru Newby
We merged caching support for the metadata agent in juno, and backported to icehouse. It was enabled by default in juno, but disabled by default in icehouse to satisfy the stable maint requirement of not changing functional behavior. While performance of the agent was improved with caching ena

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][stable] metadata agent performance

2014-10-22 Thread Maru Newby
On Oct 22, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Jakub Libosvar wrote: > On 10/22/2014 02:26 AM, Maru Newby wrote: >> We merged caching support for the metadata agent in juno, and backported to >> icehouse. It was enabled by default in juno, but disabled by default in >> icehouse to sat

Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Patches tagging with NFVImpact

2014-10-29 Thread Maru Newby
Am I the only one wondering whether introducing arbitrary tagging into our commit messages sets a bad precedent? Or was there a discussion on this topic that I missed? Maru On Jun 17, 2014, at 2:27 PM, Sylvain Bauza wrote: > Hi, > > There is an action for creating a Gerrit dashboard to sh

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron]issue about dvr flows and port timestamp

2014-10-29 Thread Maru Newby
On Oct 29, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Yangxurong wrote: > Hi, > > I’m not sure whether following issue is problematic, and both, our team do > some effort, so I submit two blueprints: > [1.] optimize dvr flows: > Currently, accurate ovs flows in terms of full mac are used to communicate > among distr

Re: [openstack-dev] [NFV] Patches tagging with NFVImpact

2014-10-29 Thread Maru Newby
On Oct 29, 2014, at 12:25 PM, Steve Gordon wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Maru Newby" >> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" >> >> >> Am I the only one wondering whether introducing arb

Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron]issue about dvr flows and port timestamp

2014-10-29 Thread Maru Newby
On Oct 29, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Hly wrote: > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2014-10-29, at 下午6:33, Maru Newby wrote: > >> >> On Oct 29, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Yangxurong wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I’m not sure whether following iss

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [nova] Weekly nova-network / neutron parity meeting

2014-07-17 Thread Maru Newby
On Jul 17, 2014, at 8:12 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: >> Kyle Mestery wrote: >>> As we're getting down to the wire in Juno, I'd like to propose we have >>> a weekly meeting on the nova-network and neutron parity effort. I'd >>> like to start t

[openstack-dev] [Neutron] Tenant isolation gate failures?

2013-10-07 Thread Maru Newby
The tenant isolation gates that have been failing so frequently seem to be passing all of a sudden. I didn't see any merges that claimed to fix the issue, so maybe this is just a lull due to a lower volume of gate jobs. If it was intentional, though, I would appreciate knowing which patch or p

[openstack-dev] [Networking] Basic Bug Etiquette

2013-06-28 Thread Maru Newby
I'd like to reminder all Neutron contributors that if you are not the assignee for a bug, you should be consulting the assignee before you consider reassigning the bug to yourself or others. Failing to do so is not only disrespectful, but may also result in unnecessary work. It could be that t

[openstack-dev] [neutron] L3 agent bug - metadata nat rule removal

2013-08-16 Thread Maru Newby
Hi Nachi, The current neutron gate failure is due to the following nat rule being cleared from the router namespace when the l3 agent syncs the router: -A neutron-l3-agent-PREROUTING -d 169.254.169.254/32 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 9697 The only place the metadata nat rule

Re: [openstack-dev] Code review study

2013-08-16 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 15, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Joe Gordon wrote: > • > On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Sam Harwell > wrote: > I like to take a different approach. If my commit message is going to take > more than a couple lines for people to understand the decisions I made, I go > and make an issue

Re: [openstack-dev] Code review study

2013-08-16 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 16, 2013, at 2:12 AM, Robert Collins wrote: > On 16 August 2013 20:15, Maru Newby wrote: > >>> This pattern has one slight issue, which is: >>> >>> • Do not assume the reviewer has access to external web services/site. >>> In 6 months t

[openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-16 Thread Maru Newby
Neutron has been in and out of the gate for the better part of the past month, and it didn't slow the pace of development one bit. Most Neutron developers kept on working as if nothing was wrong, blithely merging changes with no guarantees that they weren't introducing new breakage. New bugs w

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-16 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 16, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > > On 08/16/2013 02:25 PM, Maru Newby wrote: >> Neutron has been in and out of the gate for the better part of the >> past month, and it didn't slow the pace of development one bit. Most >> Neutron develope

Re: [openstack-dev] Gate breakage process - Let's fix! (related but not specific to neutron)

2013-08-16 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 16, 2013, at 11:44 AM, Clint Byrum wrote: > Excerpts from Maru Newby's message of 2013-08-16 11:25:07 -0700: >> Neutron has been in and out of the gate for the better part of the past >> month, and it didn't slow the pace of development one bit. Most Neutron >> developers kept on worki

[openstack-dev] Neutron + Grenade (or other upgrade testing)

2013-08-26 Thread Maru Newby
Is anyone working on/planning on adding support for neutron to grenade? Or is there any other automated upgrade testing going on for neutron? Thanks, m. ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-b

Re: [openstack-dev] About multihost patch review

2013-08-27 Thread Maru Newby
ute/admin/content/existing-ha-networking-options.html > I could be totally wrong and crazy, so please provide some feedback. > > Thanks, > > Edgar > > > From: Yongsheng Gong > Date: Monday, August 26, 2013 2:58 PM > To: "Kyle Mestery (kmestery)" , Aaro

Re: [openstack-dev] About multihost patch review

2013-08-27 Thread Maru Newby
multi-host globally will be harder on admins than the change under review? Switching to non multi-host under the current proposal involves reconfiguring and restarting of an awful lot of agents, to say nothing of the db changes. m. > > > > On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Maru New

Re: [openstack-dev] Neutron + Grenade (or other upgrade testing)

2013-08-27 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 26, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Dean Troyer wrote: > On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Maru Newby wrote: > Is anyone working on/planning on adding support for neutron to grenade? Or > is there any other automated upgrade testing going on for neutron? > > We deliberately avoide

Re: [openstack-dev] About multihost patch review

2013-08-27 Thread Maru Newby
On Aug 27, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Tom Fifield wrote: > On 27/08/13 15:23, Maru Newby wrote: >> >> On Aug 26, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Yongsheng Gong wrote: >> >>> First 'be like nova-network' is a merit for some deployments. >> >> I'm afraid &

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Proposing Assaf Muller for the Neutron Core Reviewer Team

2015-06-02 Thread Maru Newby
+1 from me, long overdue! > On May 28, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > > Folks, I'd like to propose Assaf Muller to be a member of the Neutron core > reviewer team. Assaf has been a long time contributor in Neutron, and he's > also recently become my testing Lieutenant. His influence

[openstack-dev] [neutron] The future of Xen + OVS support

2015-03-03 Thread Maru Newby
There have been a couple of patches [1] [2] proposed to neutron recently that could impact our support for Xen+OVS, but I don’t see an easy way for us to validate such changes. I’m not aware of a 3rd party CI job that runs against Xen, and I don’t know of any active contributors able to manuall

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] The future of Xen + OVS support

2015-03-03 Thread Maru Newby
ood call, I’ve cross-posted to the user list as you suggest. > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Maru Newby wrote: > There have been a couple of patches [1] [2] proposed to neutron recently that > could impact our support for Xen+OVS, but I don’t see an easy way for us to > validat

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] The future of Xen + OVS support

2015-03-03 Thread Maru Newby
sense to send this to the users list as well. There may be a > large deployment out there with resources willing to at least test changes > even if they don't have any upstream development resources. > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Maru Newby wrote: > There have been a

Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Proposal to add Ihar Hrachyshka as a Neutron Core Reviewer

2015-03-04 Thread Maru Newby
+1 from me, Ihar has been doing great work and it will be great to have him finally able to merge! > On Mar 4, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Kyle Mestery wrote: > > I'd like to propose that we add Ihar Hrachyshka to the Neutron core reviewer > team. Ihar has been doing a great job reviewing in Neutron as

[openstack-dev] [qa][neutron] Moving network api test development to Neutron repo

2015-03-17 Thread Maru Newby
tl;dr; As per a discussion in Paris [1], development of Neutron's API tests is moving from the Tempest repo to the Neutron repo. If you are developing API tests for Neutron in Tempest, please be advised that, effective immediately, your efforts should be directed towards the Neutron repo. The curr

[openstack-dev] [infra] What do people think of YAPF (like gofmt, for python)?

2015-03-25 Thread Maru Newby
I am excited by the release of YAPF [1], a gofmt-like too for python. I think it has the potential to simplify style enforcement, and as much as I appreciate our current hacking checks, I’d be much happier not requiring developers to manually conform to them. Maybe we can consider automation i

Re: [openstack-dev] [infra] What do people think of YAPF (like gofmt, for python)?

2015-03-26 Thread Maru Newby
> On Mar 25, 2015, at 4:22 PM, Monty Taylor wrote: > > On 03/25/2015 05:50 PM, Maru Newby wrote: >> I am excited by the release of YAPF [1], a gofmt-like too for python. >> I think it has the potential to simplify style enforcement, and as >> much as I appreciate our

Re: [openstack-dev] The Evolution of core developer to maintainer?

2015-04-01 Thread Maru Newby
> On Apr 1, 2015, at 6:09 AM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > And here is the crux of the situation, which I think bears > highlighting. These "empowered groups" are (or at least started out > as) nothing more than an attempt to map responsibilities onto the > ACLs available to our projects in the too

Re: [openstack-dev] The Evolution of core developer to maintainer?

2015-04-01 Thread Maru Newby
> On Apr 1, 2015, at 2:52 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > - Some people are core reviewers and maintainers (or "drivers", to reuse > the openstack terminology we already have for that) > - Some people are core reviewers only (because they can't commit 90% of > their work time to work on project pr

Re: [openstack-dev] The Evolution of core developer to maintainer?

2015-04-01 Thread Maru Newby
> On Apr 1, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote: > > On 2015-04-01 12:00:53 -0700 (-0700), Maru Newby wrote: >> Given how important trust and relationships are to the functioning >> of individual projects, I think we’re past the point where we >> should allow our

Re: [openstack-dev] The Evolution of core developer to maintainer?

2015-04-02 Thread Maru Newby
> On Apr 2, 2015, at 3:26 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > Maru Newby wrote: >> [...] Many of us in the Neutron >> community find this taxonomy restrictive and not representative >> of all the work that makes the project possible. > > We seem to be after the sa

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