Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][CI] nova-networking or neutron netwokring for CI
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 2:23 AM, Andreas Scheuring < scheu...@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote: > Thanks for the feedback. > > OK, got it, nova networking is not a requirement for a CI. Then I'll see > not a single reason to support it. We will investigate in the neutron > way for our CI and also for production. > I wouldn't go so far as to say there is no reason to support nova-networking in your CI system, and we are working on deprecating it. It hasn't been deprecated yet. Ideally you could test both neutron and nova-network, but if you had to choose one it should be neutron. > > Now coming back to the Hypervisorsupportmatrix > ( https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix ). > I guess the scope of this matrix is only nova and not neutron,cinder,.. > isn't it? > > So in this matrix I have to tick the networking lines (vlan, routing,..) > as NOT supported, right? (as scope is neutron-networking, altough we > would "support" it with neutron). > Correct, if you don' support nova-network at all, then you should have an 'X' in those boxes. > > Thanks, > Andreas > > > > > > -- > Andreas > (irc: scheuran) > > > On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 11:06 -0700, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Dan Smith wrote: > > > Are current nova CI platforms configured with > > nova-networking or with > > > neutron networking? Or is networking in general not even a > > part of the > > > nova CI approach? > > > > I think we have several that only run on Neutron, so I think > > it's fine > > to just do that. > > > > > > Agreed, neutron should be considered required for all of the reasons > > listed above. > > > > > > --Dan > > > > > > ___ > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > > > > > ___ > > OpenStack-dev mailing list > > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][CI] nova-networking or neutron netwokring for CI
Thanks for the feedback. OK, got it, nova networking is not a requirement for a CI. Then I'll see not a single reason to support it. We will investigate in the neutron way for our CI and also for production. Now coming back to the Hypervisorsupportmatrix ( https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix ). I guess the scope of this matrix is only nova and not neutron,cinder,.. isn't it? So in this matrix I have to tick the networking lines (vlan, routing,..) as NOT supported, right? (as scope is neutron-networking, altough we would "support" it with neutron). Thanks, Andreas -- Andreas (irc: scheuran) On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 11:06 -0700, Joe Gordon wrote: > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Dan Smith wrote: > > Are current nova CI platforms configured with > nova-networking or with > > neutron networking? Or is networking in general not even a > part of the > > nova CI approach? > > I think we have several that only run on Neutron, so I think > it's fine > to just do that. > > > Agreed, neutron should be considered required for all of the reasons > listed above. > > > --Dan > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][CI] nova-networking or neutron netwokring for CI
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 6:44 AM, Dan Smith wrote: > > Are current nova CI platforms configured with nova-networking or with > > neutron networking? Or is networking in general not even a part of the > > nova CI approach? > > I think we have several that only run on Neutron, so I think it's fine > to just do that. > Agreed, neutron should be considered required for all of the reasons listed above. > > --Dan > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev > > ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][CI] nova-networking or neutron netwokring for CI
> Are current nova CI platforms configured with nova-networking or with > neutron networking? Or is networking in general not even a part of the > nova CI approach? I think we have several that only run on Neutron, so I think it's fine to just do that. --Dan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
Re: [openstack-dev] [nova][CI] nova-networking or neutron netwokring for CI
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:53 AM, Andreas Scheuring wrote: > Hi, > we're preparing to add a new platform, libvirt-kvm on system z > (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-kvm-systemz), to > the HypervisorSupportMatrix > https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix . > > > This matrix also lists a number of networking features (e.g. vlan > networking, routing,..). > > If I interpret the footnotes correctly, these network items refer only > to nova-networking, right? So if I plan to support vlan networking with > neutron, but not with nova-networking it would be an "x" in the related > cell, right? > > > Now thinking one step further in the direction of a CI system for the > new platform. > > Are current nova CI platforms configured with nova-networking or with > neutron networking? Or is networking in general not even a part of the > nova CI approach? > > > My current assumption is that any networking is a requirement and most > of the systems would go with nova-networking. Is this true? > > If so, does it make sense to run the CI system with neutron networking > instead of nova-networking? What's the best practice in this area? > > Not sure about the deprecation plans of nova-networking. But setting up > the CI environment might also take a while. Do you think it's still > worthwhile spending time for the nova-network integration in the CI > system, if it might be deprecated in the future anyhow? > > > Any input? > Given we're moving towards deprecating nova-network in Kilo, if you had to choose I'd say to use neutron here. But I'd like to hear what other folks running CI systems for nova are doing as well, and also what Michael has to say here. Thanks, Kyle > Thanks a lot! > > > -- > Andreas > (irc: scheuran) > > > > > ___ > OpenStack-dev mailing list > OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org > http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
[openstack-dev] [nova][CI] nova-networking or neutron netwokring for CI
Hi, we're preparing to add a new platform, libvirt-kvm on system z (https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-kvm-systemz), to the HypervisorSupportMatrix https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/HypervisorSupportMatrix . This matrix also lists a number of networking features (e.g. vlan networking, routing,..). If I interpret the footnotes correctly, these network items refer only to nova-networking, right? So if I plan to support vlan networking with neutron, but not with nova-networking it would be an "x" in the related cell, right? Now thinking one step further in the direction of a CI system for the new platform. Are current nova CI platforms configured with nova-networking or with neutron networking? Or is networking in general not even a part of the nova CI approach? My current assumption is that any networking is a requirement and most of the systems would go with nova-networking. Is this true? If so, does it make sense to run the CI system with neutron networking instead of nova-networking? What's the best practice in this area? Not sure about the deprecation plans of nova-networking. But setting up the CI environment might also take a while. Do you think it's still worthwhile spending time for the nova-network integration in the CI system, if it might be deprecated in the future anyhow? Any input? Thanks a lot! -- Andreas (irc: scheuran) ___ OpenStack-dev mailing list OpenStack-dev@lists.openstack.org http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev
