Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Baohua Yang
+1. And the review process should be more efficient! On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 3:07 AM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On 08/06/2014 11:19 AM, Edgar Magana wrote: > > That is the beauty of the open source projects, there is always a > smartest > > reviewer catching out the facts that you don¹t. > > An

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Sumit Naiksatam
I definitely agree that such cross-pollination across projects is ideal. However, I think (and not to deviate from the general discussion on making blueprint specs review more effective), Kevin's question was specifically in the context of the GBP blueprint. It is not clear in that case that a Nov

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Richard Woo
I agreed with Jay. Nova is one of the consumer of Neutron project, someone from Nova project should participate reviewing related blueprint in neutron project. Richard On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:28 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 08/06/2014 07:54 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: > >> I'm curious, how would hav

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/06/2014 07:54 PM, Kevin Benton wrote: I'm curious, how would having Nova reviewers look at this have helped? As I mentioned on a previous email, Nova is the pre-eminent consumer of Neutron's API. Best, -jay On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Jay Pipes mailto:jaypi...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Kevin Benton
I'm curious, how would having Nova reviewers look at this have helped? On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Jay Pipes wrote: > On 08/06/2014 07:08 PM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: > >> On Aug 6, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Mohammad Banikazemi > m...@us.ibm.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Yes, indeed. >>> I do not want to be

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Jay Pipes
On 08/06/2014 07:08 PM, CARVER, PAUL wrote: On Aug 6, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Mohammad Banikazemi mailto:m...@us.ibm.com>> wrote: Yes, indeed. I do not want to be over dramatic but the discussion on the original "Group Based Policy and the way forward" thread is nothing short of heartbreaking. Aft

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread CARVER, PAUL
On Aug 6, 2014, at 2:01 PM, Mohammad Banikazemi mailto:m...@us.ibm.com>> wrote: >Yes, indeed. >I do not want to be over dramatic but the discussion on the original "Group >Based Policy and the way forward" thread is nothing short of heartbreaking. >After months and months of discussions, three p

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Richard Woo
fair to blame re > > From: Stefano Maffulli > To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" < > openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > Date: 08/06/2014 04:47 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was > Re

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
lt; > openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org> > Date: 08/06/2014 04:47 PM > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was > Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward) > -- > > > > On Wed 06 Aug 2014 01:21:26

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Carlino, Chuck (OpenStack TripleO, Neutron)
k-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Date: 08/06/2014 04:47 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward) On Wed 06 Aug 2014 01:21:26 PM PDT, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: > So I don'

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Mohammad Banikazemi
Mohammad From: Stefano Maffulli To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" Date: 08/06/2014 04:47 PM Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way f

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Stefano Maffulli
On Wed 06 Aug 2014 01:21:26 PM PDT, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: > So I don't think it's fair to blame reviewers here. Just want to be super clear: there is no 'blaming' here. This is a request to regroup and look at why we are having this conversation about GBP now, this late in cycle, and about such

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Ivar Lazzaro
+1 Eugene, Still, there's a point in Stefano's thread: There's a time for discussing merging strategies, models, and naming conventions... And this time is called BP approval :) Just saying. Ivar. On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:21 PM, Eugene Nikanorov wrote: > > > > On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:07

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Eugene Nikanorov
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:07 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On 08/06/2014 11:19 AM, Edgar Magana wrote: > > That is the beauty of the open source projects, there is always a > smartest > > reviewer catching out the facts that you don¹t. > > And yet, the specification clearly talks about 'endpoints

Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)

2014-08-06 Thread Kyle Mestery
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Stefano Maffulli wrote: > On 08/06/2014 11:19 AM, Edgar Magana wrote: >> That is the beauty of the open source projects, there is always a smartest >> reviewer catching out the facts that you don¹t. > > And yet, the specification clearly talks about 'endpoints' and