Re: [openstack-dev] The #openstack-packaging channel requires an invite?

[Jeremy Stanley]

On 2016-03-10 14:48:50 + (+), Kiall Mac Innes wrote:
> For anyone who may try doing this again in the future, don't set the
> invite only flag (+i), and
> then the +f #openstack-stable will trigger a redirect to the new channel.

This was intentional. It was left without -i for a period of time
(months) so people rejoining would get transparently redirected, but
to officially shut down the old channel name and prompt people to
update their configuration to reflect the new channel it's at some
point necessary to make it blatantly obvious it's no longer used.
Making it invite-only seemed to be the only simple solution to
preventing anyone from using that channel name indefinitely.
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Re: [openstack-dev] The #openstack-packaging channel requires an invite?

[Anita Kuno]

On 03/10/2016 10:02 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> 
> 
> On 3/10/2016 7:53 AM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>> On 03/09/2016 12:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
>>> Someone showed up in the -stable channel this morning asking for help
>>> with packaging. I gather they were there because the IRC wiki [1] says
>>> the #openstack-stable channel is also for packaging discussions, given
>>> -stable originated from distro people.
>>>
>>> I redirected them to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packaging which
>>> points to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PackagerResources which says:
>>>
>>> "The #openstack-packaging channel on Freenode is available for packaging
>>> collaboration and discussion."
>>>
>>> Great!
>>>
>>> However, you have to apparently be invited to join the elite
>>> #openstack-packaging channel.
>>>
>>> What gives? Is that channel dead? Is there something else? Is there a
>>> secret handshake I can learn to palms to grease to get in?
>>>
>>> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC
>>>
>>
>> So could some of the respondents to this thread add their channel name
>> and description to the wikipage? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC
>>
>> When this conversation next comes up it is the wikipage I will check and
>> hope it is up to date. I don't see me trying to find this thread in the
>> archives.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Anita.
>>
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> Done.
> 
Thanks Matt,
Anita.

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Re: [openstack-dev] The #openstack-packaging channel requires an invite?

[Matt Riedemann]

On 3/10/2016 7:53 AM, Anita Kuno wrote:

On 03/09/2016 12:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote:

Someone showed up in the -stable channel this morning asking for help
with packaging. I gather they were there because the IRC wiki [1] says
the #openstack-stable channel is also for packaging discussions, given
-stable originated from distro people.

I redirected them to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packaging which
points to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PackagerResources which says:

"The #openstack-packaging channel on Freenode is available for packaging
collaboration and discussion."

Great!

However, you have to apparently be invited to join the elite
#openstack-packaging channel.

What gives? Is that channel dead? Is there something else? Is there a
secret handshake I can learn to palms to grease to get in?

[1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC



So could some of the respondents to this thread add their channel name
and description to the wikipage? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC

When this conversation next comes up it is the wikipage I will check and
hope it is up to date. I don't see me trying to find this thread in the
archives.

Thanks,
Anita.

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Done.

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Thanks,

Matt Riedemann


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Re: [openstack-dev] The #openstack-packaging channel requires an invite?

[Kiall Mac Innes]

On 09/03/16 17:57, Louis Taylor wrote:
> From ChanServ:
>
> 17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Information on #openstack-packaging:
> 17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Registered : Nov 11 18:59:55
> 2011 (4y 17w 0d ago)
> 17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Last used  : (about 75 weeks ago)
> 17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Mode lock  : +imnstf #openstack-stable
> 17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Flags  : KEEPTOPIC
> TOPICLOCK GUARD PRIVATE
> 17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- *** End of Info ***
>
> It doesn't look like it's been used in a long time (75 weeks).

For anyone who may try doing this again in the future, don't set the
invite only flag (+i), and
then the +f #openstack-stable will trigger a redirect to the new channel.

Thanks,
Kiall


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Re: [openstack-dev] The #openstack-packaging channel requires an invite?

[Anita Kuno]

On 03/09/2016 12:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> Someone showed up in the -stable channel this morning asking for help
> with packaging. I gather they were there because the IRC wiki [1] says
> the #openstack-stable channel is also for packaging discussions, given
> -stable originated from distro people.
> 
> I redirected them to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packaging which
> points to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PackagerResources which says:
> 
> "The #openstack-packaging channel on Freenode is available for packaging
> collaboration and discussion."
> 
> Great!
> 
> However, you have to apparently be invited to join the elite
> #openstack-packaging channel.
> 
> What gives? Is that channel dead? Is there something else? Is there a
> secret handshake I can learn to palms to grease to get in?
> 
> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC
> 

So could some of the respondents to this thread add their channel name
and description to the wikipage? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC

When this conversation next comes up it is the wikipage I will check and
hope it is up to date. I don't see me trying to find this thread in the
archives.

Thanks,
Anita.

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Re: [openstack-dev] The #openstack-packaging channel requires an invite?

[Thomas Goirand]

On 03/09/2016 07:28 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> Ha, the irony.
> 
> OK, so I thought awhile back, around YVR summit time, there was a group
> of different packagers from different distros (debian/red
> hat/fedora/suse) that were working together on some common tooling.
> 
> Is that still a thing and if so, do they congregate somewhere? Because
> *that's* where I think people need to go, not the #openstack-stable
> channel.

RDO people are on #rdo in Freenode.

Debian and Ubuntu package maintainers are in #debian-openstack on OFTC
(irc.debian.org) and on #debian-openstack-commits (if you want to read
the KGB bot and jenkins output).

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)


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Re: [openstack-dev] The #openstack-packaging channel requires an invite?

[Thomas Bechtold]

On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 12:28:59PM -0600, Matt Riedemann wrote:
[snipped]
> Ha, the irony.
> 
> OK, so I thought awhile back, around YVR summit time, there was a group of
> different packagers from different distros (debian/red hat/fedora/suse) that
> were working together on some common tooling.
> 
> Is that still a thing and if so, do they congregate somewhere? Because
> *that's* where I think people need to go, not the #openstack-stable channel.

For RPM, there is #openstack-rpm-packaging. See
https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Rpm-packaging

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Re: [openstack-dev] The #openstack-packaging channel requires an invite?

[Joshua Harlow]

On 03/09/2016 10:28 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote:

Is that still a thing and if so, do they congregate somewhere? Because
*that's* where I think people need to go, not the #openstack-stable
channel.


There is an #openstack-anvil channel,

The anvil project had/has similar goals of being a cross-distro 
packager: https://anvil.readthedocs.org/en/latest/topics/summary.html


U can feel free to use the #openstack-anvil channel if u so desire ;)

Overall though, I agree, it does seem odd that #openstack-packaging got 
moved to #openstack-stable since to me the two things are different (one 
is about packaging things, one is about stable openstack releases?) but 
maybe I'm also missing some context.


-Josh

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Re: [openstack-dev] The #openstack-packaging channel requires an invite?

[Andreas Jaeger]

On 03/09/2016 07:28 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> Ha, the irony.
> 
> OK, so I thought awhile back, around YVR summit time, there was a group
> of different packagers from different distros (debian/red
> hat/fedora/suse) that were working together on some common tooling.
> 
> Is that still a thing and if so, do they congregate somewhere? Because
> *that's* where I think people need to go, not the #openstack-stable
> channel.
> 

#openstack-rpm-packaging for the RPM side,

Andreas
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Re: [openstack-dev] The #openstack-packaging channel requires an invite?

[Andreas Jaeger]

On 03/09/2016 06:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> Someone showed up in the -stable channel this morning asking for help
> with packaging. I gather they were there because the IRC wiki [1] says
> the #openstack-stable channel is also for packaging discussions, given
> -stable originated from distro people.
> 
> I redirected them to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packaging which
> points to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PackagerResources which says:
> 
> "The #openstack-packaging channel on Freenode is available for packaging
> collaboration and discussion."
> 
> Great!
> 
> However, you have to apparently be invited to join the elite
> #openstack-packaging channel.
> 
> What gives? Is that channel dead? Is there something else? Is there a
> secret handshake I can learn to palms to grease to get in?
> 
> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC
> 

Looking in project-config, I see #openstack-rpm-packaging configured for
RPM packaging discussion - as only registered channel for packaging
discussion,

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Re: [openstack-dev] The #openstack-packaging channel requires an invite?

[Matt Riedemann]

On 3/9/2016 11:57 AM, Louis Taylor wrote:

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Matt Riedemann
 wrote:

Someone showed up in the -stable channel this morning asking for help with
packaging. I gather they were there because the IRC wiki [1] says the
#openstack-stable channel is also for packaging discussions, given -stable
originated from distro people.

I redirected them to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packaging which points
to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PackagerResources which says:

"The #openstack-packaging channel on Freenode is available for packaging
collaboration and discussion."

Great!

However, you have to apparently be invited to join the elite
#openstack-packaging channel.

What gives? Is that channel dead? Is there something else? Is there a secret
handshake I can learn to palms to grease to get in?


 From ChanServ:

17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Information on #openstack-packaging:
17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Registered : Nov 11 18:59:55
2011 (4y 17w 0d ago)
17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Last used  : (about 75 weeks ago)
17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Mode lock  : +imnstf #openstack-stable
17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Flags  : KEEPTOPIC
TOPICLOCK GUARD PRIVATE
17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- *** End of Info ***

It doesn't look like it's been used in a long time (75 weeks).

Louis

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Ha, the irony.

OK, so I thought awhile back, around YVR summit time, there was a group 
of different packagers from different distros (debian/red 
hat/fedora/suse) that were working together on some common tooling.


Is that still a thing and if so, do they congregate somewhere? Because 
*that's* where I think people need to go, not the #openstack-stable channel.


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Thanks,

Matt Riedemann


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Re: [openstack-dev] The #openstack-packaging channel requires an invite?

[Louis Taylor]

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Matt Riedemann
 wrote:
> Someone showed up in the -stable channel this morning asking for help with
> packaging. I gather they were there because the IRC wiki [1] says the
> #openstack-stable channel is also for packaging discussions, given -stable
> originated from distro people.
>
> I redirected them to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packaging which points
> to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PackagerResources which says:
>
> "The #openstack-packaging channel on Freenode is available for packaging
> collaboration and discussion."
>
> Great!
>
> However, you have to apparently be invited to join the elite
> #openstack-packaging channel.
>
> What gives? Is that channel dead? Is there something else? Is there a secret
> handshake I can learn to palms to grease to get in?

>From ChanServ:

17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Information on #openstack-packaging:
17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Registered : Nov 11 18:59:55
2011 (4y 17w 0d ago)
17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Last used  : (about 75 weeks ago)
17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Mode lock  : +imnstf #openstack-stable
17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Flags  : KEEPTOPIC
TOPICLOCK GUARD PRIVATE
17:55:03 -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- *** End of Info ***

It doesn't look like it's been used in a long time (75 weeks).

Louis

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Re: [openstack-dev] The #openstack-packaging channel requires an invite?

[Mathieu Gagné]

It got renamed a couple of months/year ago to #openstack-stable:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-ci/+bug/1360324

Documentation should have been updated to reflect this change.

Channel being invite-only is probably a side-effect of the migration.

Mathieu

On 2016-03-09 12:48 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> Someone showed up in the -stable channel this morning asking for help
> with packaging. I gather they were there because the IRC wiki [1] says
> the #openstack-stable channel is also for packaging discussions, given
> -stable originated from distro people.
> 
> I redirected them to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Packaging which
> points to https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PackagerResources which says:
> 
> "The #openstack-packaging channel on Freenode is available for packaging
> collaboration and discussion."
> 
> Great!
> 
> However, you have to apparently be invited to join the elite
> #openstack-packaging channel.
> 
> What gives? Is that channel dead? Is there something else? Is there a
> secret handshake I can learn to palms to grease to get in?
> 
> [1] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/IRC
> 


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