Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-18 Thread Fox, Kevin M
e questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Hi all, Magnum will have a fishbowl session to discuss if it makes sense to build a common abstraction lay

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-18 Thread Hongbin Lu
nt: April-12-16 8:40 AM > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] > One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) > > On 1

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-14 Thread Bogdan Dobrelya
> On 04/11/2016 09:43 AM, Allison Randal wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Davanum Srinivas >>> wrote: Reading unofficial notes [1], i found one topic very interesting: One Platform – How do we truly support containers and bare metal under a common API with VMs? (Ironic, N

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-13 Thread Peng Zhao
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 11:33:21 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Agreed. IMO

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-13 Thread Georgy Okrokvertskhov
At Mirantis we are playing with different technologies to explore possible ways of using containers. Recently we did some POC kind of work for integration existing OpenStack components with containers technologies. Here is a link for a demo. In this POC Nova API can s

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-13 Thread Joshua Harlow
Thierry Carrez wrote: Fox, Kevin M wrote: I think my head just exploded. :) That idea's similar to neutron sfc stuff, where you just say what needs to connect to what, and it figures out the plumbing. Ideally, it would map somehow to heat & docker COE & neutron sfc to produce a final set of de

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-13 Thread Fox, Kevin M
From: Peng Zhao Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 11:33:21 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-13 Thread Michał Dulko
On 04/13/2016 11:16 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Fox, Kevin M wrote: >> I think my head just exploded. :) >> >> That idea's similar to neutron sfc stuff, where you just say what >> needs to connect to what, and it figures out the plumbing. >> >> Ideally, it would map somehow to heat & docker COE & n

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-13 Thread Thierry Carrez
Fox, Kevin M wrote: I think my head just exploded. :) That idea's similar to neutron sfc stuff, where you just say what needs to connect to what, and it figures out the plumbing. Ideally, it would map somehow to heat & docker COE & neutron sfc to produce a final set of deployment scripts and

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Peng Zhao
p-catalog use case, > the app-catalog project (http://apps.openstack.org) is working on > some of that. > > Thanks, > Kevin > > ________ > From: Joshua Harlow > [harlo...@fastmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:16 PM > OpenStack Devel

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Joshua Harlow
t; From: Joshua Harlow [harlo...@fastmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:16 PM > To: Flavio Percoco; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Peng Zhao
ps.openstack.org) is working on some of that. > > Thanks, > Kevin > > From: Joshua Harlow [harlo...@fastmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:16 PM OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) > Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org > Subject: R

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Devdatta Kulkarni
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:16 PM To: Flavio Percoco; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Flavi

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Amrith Kumar
t; > > > > > > >[1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/trove-newton-summit-container > > > > > > > >From: Adrian Otto [mailto:adrian.o...@rackspace.com] > >Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:54 PM > >To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (n

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Joshua Harlow
From: Joshua Harlow [harlo...@fastmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:23 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Container

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Steve Baker
OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Flavio Percoco wrote: On 11/04/16 18:05 +, Amrith Kumar

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Joshua Harlow
3 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Fox, Kevin M wrote: I think part of the problem is c

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Fox, Kevin M
shua Harlow [harlo...@fastmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 2:23 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Me

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Joshua Harlow
w [harlo...@fastmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 12:16 PM To: Flavio Percoco; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Fox, Kevin M
To: Flavio Percoco; OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Flavio Percoco wrote: > On 11/04/1

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Joshua Harlow
Flavio Percoco wrote: On 11/04/16 18:05 +, Amrith Kumar wrote: Adrian, thx for your detailed mail. Yes, I was hopeful of a silver bullet and as we’ve discussed before (I think it was Vancouver), there’s likely no silver bullet in this area. After that conversation, and some further experi

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Fox, Kevin M
M To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) On 11/04/16 16:53 +, Adrian Otto wrote: >Amrith,

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
an.o...@rackspace.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:54 PM To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-12 Thread Flavio Percoco
; foundat...@lists.openstack.org Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) On 04/11/2016

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Hongbin Lu
ubject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Sorry, I disagree. Magnum team doesn’t have consensus to reject the idea of unifying APIs from different container technology. In contrast, the idea of unifie

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Adrian Otto
; foundat...@lists.openstack.org<mailto:foundat...@lists.openstack.org> Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Bo

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Allison Randal
On 04/11/2016 02:51 PM, Fox, Kevin M wrote: > Yeah, I think there are two places where it may make sense. > > 1. Ironic's nova plugin is a lowst common denominator for treating a > physical host like a vm. Ironic's api is much more rich, but sometimes > all you need is the lowest common denominato

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Fox, Kevin M
tack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Sorry, I disagree. Magnum team doesn’t have consensus to reject the idea of unifying APIs from different container technology. In contrast, the idea of un

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Tim Bell
> > > >From: Amrith Kumar [amr...@tesora.com] >Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 8:47 AM >To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions); Allison >Randal; Davanum Srinivas; foundat...@lists.openstack.org >Subject: Re: [

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Hongbin Lu
enstack.org> Cc: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) On 04/11/2016 09:43 AM, Allison R

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Amrith Kumar
(not for usage questions) Cc: foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Amrith, I respect your point of view, and agree that the idea of a common compute API is

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Adrian Otto
age questions) mailto:openstack-dev@lists.openstack.org>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) On 04/11/2016 09:43 AM, Allison Randal wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Davanum Srinivas

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Russell Bryant
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 11:30 AM, Monty Taylor wrote: > On 04/11/2016 09:43 AM, Allison Randal wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Davanum Srinivas >>> wrote: >>> Reading unofficial notes [1], i found one topic very interesting: One Platform – How do we truly support containers

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Fox, Kevin M
elopment Mailing List (not for usage questions); Allison Randal; Davanum Srinivas; foundat...@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) Monty, Dims, I read the notes and was simi

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Amrith Kumar
List (not for usage questions) > > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One > Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting) > > On 04/11/2016 09:43 AM, Allison Randal wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Davanum Sr

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Monty Taylor
On 04/11/2016 09:43 AM, Allison Randal wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: Reading unofficial notes [1], i found one topic very interesting: One Platform – How do we truly support containers and bare metal under a common API with VMs? (Ironic, Nova, adjacent communiti

Re: [openstack-dev] [OpenStack Foundation] [board][tc][all] One Platform – Containers/Bare Metal? (Re: Board of Directors Meeting)

2016-04-11 Thread Allison Randal
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Davanum Srinivas wrote: >> Reading unofficial notes [1], i found one topic very interesting: >> One Platform – How do we truly support containers and bare metal under >> a common API with VMs? (Ironic, Nova, adjacent communities e.g. >> Kubernetes, Apache Mesos et